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In the wake of a rumored Panda 3.0 release the topic of the Google Panda update is not slowing down.
One thing that might be new to most SEOs is how Panda hits web sites. There are algorithms that run continuously in a live environment and then there are algorithms that are only run when Google decides to run them. An example of a manual run algorithm is the Google Bomb algorithm that is run periodically by Google to remove any Google Bomb attempts in the index. For all I know, and I think this is true, this might be a live algorithm now.
A WebmasterWorld thread points to a tweet by Google's Matt Cutts that the Panda algorithm, at least currently, is a manually run algorithm. Matt said:
Short version is that it's not data that's updated daily right now. More like when we re-run the algorithms to regen the data.
So far we feel we had 3 runs, the first roll out, the international rollout and then Panda 3.0 or some calling it Panda 2.1. Those were all probably pushed manually by Google - keep in mind, by manual I do not mean people do anything manually outside of hitting the go button for the algorithm to run.
Our ongoing coverage and stories on the Content Farmer/Panda update:
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Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.
Comments:
Ian Williams
05/10/2011 03:18 pm
Am I being hopelessly naive to suggest Google could give broad outlines on how often they'd expect to rollout [a] Panda? I'm sure that would give some reassurance to small business owners who've been hit hard and are looking at being out of business.
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 03:39 pm
I have seen no evidence to support the guesses at a third Panda release. But to say that Google results are being "manually updated" is misleading. Google did not manually update 12% of its queries.
Barry Schwartz
05/10/2011 03:40 pm
I'll quote myself, "by manual I do not mean people do anything manually outside of hitting the go button for the algorithm to run."
seogabs
05/10/2011 04:02 pm
This would but why no one can escape the panda until its re-run just like google bombing..
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 05:08 pm
Barry, I read your article but it's the headline to which I object. You know as well as I that many people will read the headline only.
Barry Schwartz
05/10/2011 05:35 pm
I do.
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 06:04 pm
Well, I'm glad we got THAT sorted out. LOL!
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 06:06 pm
I don't know if you're being hopelessly naive but I suspect they don't want to commit to any sort of schedule for a whole slew of good reasons.
Chris
05/10/2011 06:48 pm
I feel that I need to mention the headline. It put a smile on my face after a long day. I'm looking into this more and more lately but haven't come across your site until just a few moment ago. Finding good info on Google's algorithms is harder than getting blood out of a stone at times. Good info, thanks for sharing.
TheGlump
05/10/2011 06:58 pm
Aren't you the guy who rants and raves about writing 1000 word articles and if they're "quality" people will read them?
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 07:27 pm
Be careful, TheGlump -- we don't want to read too much intent into your question.
Michael Martinez
05/10/2011 07:33 pm
Well now Google has confirmed that it's "Panda 2.1 not 3.0" according to Search Engine Land.
Barry Schwartz
05/10/2011 07:35 pm
Yep.
TheGlump
05/10/2011 09:04 pm
My bad... I guess I should have put an /sarcasm on there, and maybe a little more explanation, so I was clear when I was calling you a hypocrite . Let me quote you, straight from your blog: "I have a reputation for taking 20 words to say what other people would use 5 words to say. Sometimes the 20 words are overkill but they’re still good practice for being an essayist." And that's just one of many. To come on here and start telling Barry how to word his titles and articles is retarded. Maybe you should run back to your blog and type out another 1000 word diatribe about how great you are, Doctor M&M.
Michael Martinez
05/11/2011 12:40 am
I thought you were trying to publish a non sequitur. Thank you for making that more clear. Random unprovoked flame attacks always add value to even the briefest of discussions (THAT was sarcasm).
Anirban Das
05/11/2011 04:35 am
I have an objection with this word " rumored Panda 3.0 release ", its a clever observation from some top class SEO's across the world,its a assumption and after Search Engine Land's report it's confirmed news... I Hope, Barry you will consider this...
Robert paul
05/11/2011 09:31 am
By panda update .. low quality website page rank will be dropped....
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05/11/2011 09:47 am
Panda is good for hardwork people but sometimes it also drop those sites which have unique and quality content but by this low quality sites will disappear from search.
Secret Shopper
05/20/2011 07:26 am
We are heavily dependent on Google, and even if we are aware of the danger it represents and we are willing to change that, we don't really see how to achieve traffic other than by search results.
Will Spencer
06/01/2011 05:51 pm
Yeah, accepting the expectation of doing quality work on schedule can really make your job less fun. I am just overcome with sympathy for the poor Google engineer who has to hit that button.
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07/08/2011 10:31 am
Whatever they do, innocent people will always suffer.