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Mani Kumar commented on Google May Show Sites With Manual Action Penalties In AI Overviews

Interesting observation! It definitely sounds like a timing or indexing issue that might resolve once Google addresses it more thoroughly. It’s a bit perplexing, though, that sites with manual actions can still appear in AIOs despite being deindexed, which could be contributing to confusion for both users and site owners. If it’s a bug, hopefully it gets ironed out soon, but in the meantime, it highlights the complexities and nuances of Google’s indexing and AI systems.

Comment ID #6630279452 01/15/2025 01:40 am

Ted (or Big T) commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Traffic was stopped. What happened?

Comment ID #6630268236 01/15/2025 12:52 am

Bobby commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

John Mueller: You can use AI. Googlers: Will you rank if you copy and paste chatbot answers? Probably not. Sometimes I feel John Mueller is used as a guinea pig. Lily Ray claims she has not seen any chatbot generated site rank today. So it could be that technically you can use AI. But as Google has said, it won't rank. It's a play on words. On the other hand, what would Lily Ray know about what is AI content? She's not a skilled writer. She and all others like her are just using tools that supposedly tell them what AI content is. But those tools are either unreliable now or soon to be unreliable. You could be using AI now without Lily Ray knowing about it.

Comment ID #6630258765 01/15/2025 12:12 am

2025 commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

i wonder if blog/info sites have been experiencing a sudden dip since 13th

Comment ID #6630243640 01/14/2025 11:16 pm

Amy Mattison commented on Google Business Profiles In India Dropping Q&A Feature

Yes, I also received confirmation from Google that the Q and A sections have been removed from listings in India. I suspect it happened last fall.

Comment ID #6630137834 01/14/2025 07:00 pm

Google Is Evil commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

results are pure rubbish. google puts serious effort into making sure you can't find what you're looking for. the worst wordpress search plugins/native do a better job of finding relevant results. using google as a normal searcher is a waste of time nowadays. even local searches are terrible. how can it be this bad. how can they think results are acceptable. there is one answer: it's on purpose. they are sabotaging their search engine. in fact, let's hope this is the case and they're really not this dumb. smart folks work at google, but whoever is in charge of this is as bad as it gets.

Comment ID #6630110434 01/14/2025 06:03 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

I think this is the link he may have posted earlier... <a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/uks-antitrust-regulator-investigate-googles-search-services-2025-01-14/">https://www.reuters.com/technology/uks-antitrust-regulator-investigate-googles-search-services-2025-01-14/</a> Copyright DataDonkey...

Comment ID #6630098715 01/14/2025 05:41 pm

Inbound Houston commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility Into New Years 2025

agreeddddd

Comment ID #6630093879 01/14/2025 05:32 pm

Inbound Houston commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility Into New Years 2025

same. that means they are still F around and Finding out. While everyone suffers .

Comment ID #6630093473 01/14/2025 05:31 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Amazon gonna pay regardless and wants independent stores wiped out which Greedle is helping them with. This way the circle of consumer spending is between them as much as possible and others shut out unless they pay. It's called an ogilopoly or something like that. See if you think ChinaZon and Greedle meet this definition: Oligopoly - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly</a> <blockquote>An oligopoly (from Ancient Greek ὀλίγος (olígos) 'few' and πωλέω (pōléō) 'to sell') is a market in which pricing control lies in the hands of a few sellers.[1][2] As a result of their significant market power, firms in oligopolistic markets can influence prices through manipulating the supply function. Firms in an oligopoly are mutually interdependent, as any action by one firm is expected to affect other firms in the market and evoke a reaction or consequential action.[3] As a result, firms in oligopolistic markets often resort to collusion as means of maximising profits. </blockquote>

Comment ID #6630085779 01/14/2025 05:19 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

He's a novice as in an inexperienced noober CEO. Half the years he was CEO for Greedle, he was overshadowed by Brin/Page who ran Greedle's parent company Alphabutt which he had to answer to. Since Pinchya became CEO of Alphabutt too, he has done nothing but step on one land mine after another. Guilty of antitrust violations in the Google Play Store. Guilty of antitrust violations in search. Probably going to have another antitrust guilty verdict for ads too. All these crimes despite having a battalion of attorneys on staff to advise his dumb ass. Also ChatGPT kicked Greedle's ass in AI and still has much more marketshare than GermInEye. And what has this novice CEO done to make more money to please shareholders? Spam ads, which anyone could do. He's a novice by any definition because he can't run a company, except into the ground.

Comment ID #6630080570 01/14/2025 05:10 pm

ChopSawBrah commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

:) the context is actually quite interesting if you are into that type of stuff

Comment ID #6630045586 01/14/2025 04:17 pm

Erik commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Actually the opposite of that makes more sense.. rank small niche relevant sites with good info and have amazon pay to get above it with their thin content pages?

Comment ID #6630032759 01/14/2025 03:58 pm

Mark commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

New domain, zero seo, 1 million words of rubbish... this is 100% going to fail. Go buy an expired tech domain for $50k and put it on that and you might have a chance.

Comment ID #6630006968 01/14/2025 03:21 pm

UncleKrusty commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

No worries, it's gone. Didn't get a chance to see who posted it, and don't want to offend anyone or Barry.

Comment ID #6630005109 01/14/2025 03:18 pm

Bobby commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

This guy's claiming to use keyword Ian as his go-to. He got that from this comment section. We were promoting keyword Ian right here recently for the same reason. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d2270436a63c8fa77789bb6af56a2983d5c52b3762904f17716667ffee54575.png

Comment ID #6629987880 01/14/2025 02:52 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Nah, don't delete, it was in yesterdays main article but I think it was Reuters but its good to have this one as well.

Comment ID #6629987570 01/14/2025 02:52 pm

ChopSawBrah commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

if anyone gives a fuckk, I still pumping my AI site, but I said I gonna do 15-20k a day sorry I cannot too much 10k is my limit (a few days I hit 14k) currently, sitting at 425k content producing 90% long form content - 2k words per post - turns out I like the niche and reading 2k per post is fine for me i know some people hate me, some care, it's all good site is indexed normally (some post index the same day, some index in a week) I have only bot traffic for now (new domain) also zero SEO for this site I would rather pump a 2k post than spend 1 hours doing keyword research edit - could be a total fail I plan to stop once I reach 1mill words

Comment ID #6629978130 01/14/2025 02:38 pm

UncleKrusty commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

I just saw it today, in the news and not here, so maybe someone else posted it? If I find it I will delete my post to not step on toes.

Comment ID #6629964468 01/14/2025 02:19 pm

Yair Zilberman commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

what language / niche? for 1 on my clients I see x10 traffic from Germany (health niche) started just a few hours ago

Comment ID #6629955549 01/14/2025 02:06 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

I concur but the reverse logic should be what Google should be doing. The biggest sites can afford the ads. I remember seeing a quote that said if Google didn't rank larger sites they'd be annoyed or something along those lines. To me, it sounds like Google are scared rather than just thinking of income.

Comment ID #6629955178 01/14/2025 02:06 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Any harsh recommendations will be dropped. There's a case allegedly when a company wanted to buy a certain company, the Gov wanted to reject it on national security grounds. The company had words with a sentator who then threatened to withhold intelligence if it didn't come through. And the defence company was sold. I never agree with one country telling another country's company to break up including Google. I'd rather it came from the origins country. The CMA should make recommendations which the USA should take on board though.

Comment ID #6629953498 01/14/2025 02:03 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

You posted something similar yesterday or was that @codecommander:disqus , I can't find the original article, can you repost?

Comment ID #6629950163 01/14/2025 01:59 pm

TheFlighter commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Google figures if they rank only the biggest sites for every term, many of the smaller websites will start paying for ads to rank above them.

Comment ID #6629924336 01/14/2025 01:22 pm

Bender G commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

something has happened since 16:00 UTC traffic has stopped

Comment ID #6629907857 01/14/2025 12:59 pm

Yair Zilberman commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

SERPs - very unstable Allegedly, could be that Google has learned to fool the volatility tracking tools. Allegedly, they have any reason and interest to do so. Technically this only requires them to reduce the number of sites affected each day, while the impact on each site can be significant. Just my opinion.

Comment ID #6629903046 01/14/2025 12:53 pm

Helle Sommer commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

Google need fix the domain authority abuse, just getting worse by the day. Where they not suppose to do something about this?

Comment ID #6629898583 01/14/2025 12:47 pm

ChopSawBrah commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

tbh the drop was starting to get pretty big

Comment ID #6629881869 01/14/2025 12:24 pm

Nirthak commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

I think, although UK isn't part of the EU anymore all this lawsuits ans antitrust trials will be taken down without result in the near future. Why? Because of the same reason the EU is doing it: for fear of Big Tech and its protectors. The EU is already back-pedalling.

Comment ID #6629862507 01/14/2025 11:57 am

Google Is Evil commented on Google Search Ranking Volatility - Mid-January

no surprise at all. it's more surprising "seo experts" even comment on the usual fluctuations. in fairness, I'm sure they (and us) hope 'this time' will be the time google finally gets it right. but it's never 'that time'

Comment ID #6629858371 01/14/2025 11:51 am

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