SMX Live: Inner View: Google's Keyword Research Tools

Mar 9, 2011 - 6:20 pm 4 by
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Live Blogging Coverage SMXBelow is live coverage of the Inner View: Google's Keyword Research Tools panel from the SMX West 2011 conference. This coverage is provided by Barry Schwartz of RustyBrick.

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We start in 7 minutes...
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Here we go...
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Actually, first a promo...
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Baris Gultekin, Group Product Manager, Google AdWords, Google
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He oversees the Google Keyword Tool
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https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
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New changes were made to the tool and he will discuss them and other things...
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6 months ago they launched a new keyword tool, from both a backend and frontend view
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In a given month, Google has about a billion users, doing one billion searches or so...
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Users search in 1000 different ways
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The slide here is data from 2008, but they show how people spell wrong
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Here is some data....
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So think about the space, it is a difficult job for advertisers to make sure they cover the demand for the products and services they are selling.
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It is the most tool in AdWords
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There are 15 million searches done per month in the tool and it returns 750 million ideas a month.. There is a 250% growth in usage of this tool in 6 months.
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When the product launched, they got a lot of feedback about the tool
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Here is some of the feedback they got over the 6 months
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Here are the new features and he will demo them...
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It makes a big difference if you login to the tool versus log out. Google gives you more data if you login to the tool....
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He searches for [nikon] and gets 800 keywords
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The results are ranked by relevance
Barry Schwartz: 3:40:20 pm
New functionality lets you star results and it will list starred results in a special list
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Then you can say, show me more like these starred keywords...
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Another new feature lets you specify what you want to include or exclude
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They also added a way to copy and paste these keywords by clciking on "view as text"
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They now let you see stats for mobile devices....
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Coming up in the future....
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They are improving bid and traffic estimates... there were/are last of complaints about these esimtates right now
Barry Schwartz: 3:44:01 pm
So they are improving those stats over the next coupel of weeks.
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They are now going to bring in an option to show search partner stats. Google.com or add in search partners
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You can soon group by similarity to search terms or by common terms
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These features are coming within a few weeks.
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Now Q&A Time....
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submit Questions to http://searchmarketingexpo.com/ask and pick this session title
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I didn't like the first Q, seems a bit obvious - so skipping as to not confuse things...
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Why does search volume different between Google Trends and Google Keyword Tool?
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A) Both are accurate but it is about the details. Trends shows you all the terms that have hotel in them. Keyword tool emulates broad match, so beyond hotel. So the difference he is saying is related to the match type...
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Google does not explicitly filter out non commercial terms. Some queries are filtered out for privacy concerns. The facebook not showing thing from a while back, it was a bug.
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Another Q about a bug that was fixed a while ago... Brand keyword bug...
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How does Google view plural vs singular keywords?
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The default numbers are number for broad match, so it matches very similar synonymes. So lawyers vs lawyer should be similar by default.
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Mobile search filter, are tablets mobile or desktop?
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In campaign settings, you can target mobile or desktop. But he doesn't know which is which but it says in the campaign settings...
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What is your favorite non Google keyword tool.. He laughed... (My question)
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He said, I dont really know. I just focus on what people want.
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I tried. :)
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Geo specific keywords... (1) use the location in your query, i.e. new york hotes. (2) if you are interested in just volume, i.e. people searching for hotels who are based in new york, use traffic estimator...
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The competition column based on the amount of ads for that term. So sometimes the ads are geo-targeted, so it changes it
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Searches and Impressions are different.
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It is possible your ad is not shown for each search
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Will you incorporate demographic or other features into the tool? No plans...
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API and keyword tool should be the same, data wise
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There is no way to specify queries by Google property, i.e. by showing queries done on Google Finance vs Google Image Search, etc.
Barry Schwartz: 4:08:51 pm
Frustrating that Google can't answer questions about keyword tool broad match results. Doesn't seem to be a hard and fast rule. #smx #2b3

Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/bakerash/status/45637044755632128
Barry Schwartz: 4:09:10 pm
Google shows the estimate for the top three positions of the ads
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What is the date range for new query volume.... They look at last 12 months and they will let you download average of the last month as well.... It is updated within a month or so...
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Can you report accent marks differently, e vs é :) he said it is very hard and tricky to do.
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also known as diacritic, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic
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Arguing about issues with estimates....
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I am tired, I am going to take a 30 minute break until the next session...
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