Google Panda 3.8 Live: June 25th & Refresh Only

Jun 26, 2012 • 9:09 am | comments (21) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates

Google Panda 3.8Google has officially confirmed on Twitter that they pushed out a refresh of the Panda update. This one would be labelled version 3.8.

It was only a refresh, meaning, Google did not make any algorithm signal updates. All they did was rerun the Panda algorithm to run through the index and release or capture sites that deserve, according to them, to be hit by the Panda algorithm.

Now, despite the fluctuations we noticed over the weekend Google said this Panda refresh did not start until yesterday and it did not start over the weekend.

Here is Google's tweet, which I emailed Google about and they said it started yesterday and was only a data refresh:

That being said, we are up to version 3.8 and we need Google to push out a significant update so we can move up to 4.0. We are running out of 3.x numbers. :)

I am also not sure why Google ran a Panda refresh so closely to the last one, which was about 2 weeks ago. Normally Google runs these updates after 4-6 or more weeks.

Past Panda Updates:

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Russ Offord

06/26/2012 01:19 pm

I've wondered, when Google says that an algo update / refresh 'started'... How long does a a refresh take to run? When does the algo update 'end'?


06/26/2012 02:29 pm

My traffic doubled yesterday, I'm going to thank Panda.


06/26/2012 03:44 pm

were you hit by penguin originally? did you lose rankings on Apr 24-25th or May 25th?

Omri Shabat

06/26/2012 03:46 pm

Refreshes mostly don't take more than an hour or two, this current Panda update ended hours ago.


06/26/2012 07:35 pm

I lost ranking on a lot of my long tail search terms, but my main keywords that bring in around 400 vists/day held up. I wasn't affected by the first Panda update so I'm kind of surprised at the drop today.


06/26/2012 08:23 pm

Hardly hit by Panda Traffic decreased by 50% Working on to get out of the hit :(((


06/26/2012 09:04 pm

you have to love the less than 1% of searches - so in other owrds one in a hundred searches are impacted - 100s of millions daily I would take less than 1% of a billion dollars any day - when are they going to stop the use of this silly numbering


06/27/2012 04:35 am

Can any you give me link to submit reconsideration please??

Vivek kumar

06/27/2012 11:37 am

9 Results of Wiki on a page on SERP - Hi , Today I have seen there are 9 Results of Wiki for a Keyword. As per my SEO knowledge, there should not be more than 4-5 results for a same domain. Is This Result is Good?,mod=1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=microsoft+screen+technology#q=curtains&hl=en&prmd=imvnsr&psj=1&ei=deTqT8vwH9GtrAeIy8zHBQ&start=20&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70cb7a1447ca32b&biw=1366&bih=667 I am not against of wiki, but I have seen this first time where there is 9 results from a same domain.


06/27/2012 01:17 pm

My traffic was stable in April, on May 25th my traffic tripled until June 6th. Was stable at this point until this update and I've seen another double in my traffic over the last couple of days. MY peek day was Monday the 25th where I had x10 the traffic that I've had since before the May 25th increase I received. I can only assume other sites were being punished and pushing mine to the top for keywords. The Niche my site is in has alot of spammy sites.


06/29/2012 08:58 am

If you are indeed hit by Panda, don't bother submitting reconsideration..It was actually stated that Panda and Penguin are not manual penality hence a reconsideration request will not work..


06/29/2012 06:07 pm

Well Thanks for the link My website recovered from Google Panda Traffic back to normal :)


07/01/2012 08:20 am

Congrats, but could it be that your site wasn't really hit by Panda but was affected by something else? Since generally those who were hit by Panda will only recover on the next Panda update if they managed to clean up their site before then..


07/01/2012 08:39 am

I deleted more than 50 posts ,gave no index to more than 20 posts. Fixed all the broken link.Gave redirection where ever necessary. Finally i wrote a letter to google webmasters for reconsideration.After 2-3 days traffic back to normal. No doubt its Google Panda 3.8 Hit. All the recent updates increased my traffic but this update decreased my traffic.I think there is some problem with google algorithms .Even very good quality websites are getting effected.


07/02/2012 11:00 am

Im a little stuck here. I made some changes to my site to and submitted the panda form to get back in the Google SERPs page following the last panda main update and it worked. Now it looks like this data refresh last weekend has caused my site to drop again? Its nowhere to be seen when I search for keywords I was ranking in 3rd position before. What does Data refresh actually mean? Do I have to go through this all again? Nothing in GWT.... Its up and down more times than a Yo-Yo Rob

Abella Smith

07/04/2012 10:39 am

i totally agreed you vivek. It should be not be done. Google is penalizing some websites without any reason.My two websites has penalized in n this update without any warning And these type of results are showing, Google not need visitors now


07/05/2012 03:31 pm

Hi Had big increase in traffic June 9th and now all gone back to what it was since June 26th. Can anyone tell me if this is due to links in the footers?


07/05/2012 03:42 pm

Hi Imran, In your experience does an unrelated link in the footer impact organic search results. My site is about diamonds/jewellery but the host is a franchise for websites of all niches and has a link in my footer. As you have recovered from panda 3.8 can you tell me if this would make a difference.


07/06/2012 12:51 am

Yes links in footer effects alot If you have one or two links it doesnt effect much but if you have too many links in footer then its going to effect very badly. You have to remove all the outgoing links in your footer and also you have to remove all the incoming links from other websites which are placed in footer. I designed few templates for my clients and I left link pointing to my site in the footer.After Google Panda and Penguin updates I asked them to remove the back link to my link in the footer. I dont know whether it exactly helped me or not but after removing the links in footer and making few other changes as i mentioned above my traffic came back to normal. You can check my story how i recovered from panda here


07/09/2012 07:56 am

Vivek-- Have you manipulated the results by changing the urls. For the search curtains, the page should be like this,mod=1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=microsoft+screen+technology#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=curtains&oq=curtains&gs_l=serp.3...,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70cb7a1447ca32b&biw=1280&bih=869


07/13/2012 08:21 am

just not enough sites to rank. coming soon wikipedia, yahoo and amazon on all pages.

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