I started a thread over at Search Engine Watch forums named Scraping the Engines - Other Choices?, which discussed the recent news of a new threadwatch tool. I discussed how I was annoyed by the lack of "choices" and options the SEO community has when it comes to digging deeper into the data that drives the off page criteria of a page's search rankings. So much so that I am beginning to 'feel' that some search engines are going out of there way to mock the SEO community.
Of course there is a lot of that going the other way, just to be fair.
The thread discusses a specific case of a tool, in which I lead into a discussion about the reality (IMO) of the true bridge that has been built between the search engines and the search engine optimizers.