Google Shocks Webmasters By Updating Toolbar PageRank Before Year End

Dec 6, 2013 • 8:02 am | comments (206) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates
 

Google PageRank Update LivesEarly this morning, Google pushed out a Google Toolbar PageRank update. This update shocked webmasters because no one expected it, at least not in 2013.

As you may remember, the last Toolbar PageRank update was over 10 months ago on February 4th. As I said at the six-month point, it was unusually for Google not to push out a PageRank update quarterly. Then Matt Cutts, Google's head of search spam, told us there won't be a PageRank update before 2014 - or at least he thought so.

Today, December 6th, the Google Toolbar PageRank values have been updated. I guess the upper management, executives, or Larry Page, didn't want PageRank to go away after all.

This makes me sad, as I am sure it makes many Googlers sad. Why? Because SEOs and Webmasters obsess about Toolbar PageRank, to the fault of Google. And as I said time after time:

Despite PageRank still being part of the algorithm, SEOs know that toolbar PageRank is often outdated and not that useful. In addition, there are many other factors part of the algorithm that may or may not be as important as PageRank.

Anyway, I do hope your green pixel dust improved since February.

Here is a useful video from Matt on this:

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld, Black Hat World, DigitalPoint Forums and Google Webmaster Help.

Update: Matt Cutts confirmed it on Twitter, seemed like an afterthought:

Previous story: Daily Search Forum Recap: December 5, 2013
 

Comments:

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/06/2013 01:05 pm

Yes Sir :) Google updated PR toolbar :D

F**k-you-google

12/06/2013 01:11 pm

This is typical google right now. Unless you are selling links or buying links what possible purpose could this bit of outdated green serve?

rajsingla79

12/06/2013 01:12 pm

What about your website Page Rank?. Go and Check it Now .

Barry Schwartz

12/06/2013 01:13 pm

Did you bother reading what I wrote?

Soni Sharma

12/06/2013 01:17 pm

Good News for Barry http://www.rustybrick.com/ Got 5 Page Rank .... :) But in this update many website downgraded in PR value

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/06/2013 01:18 pm

Barry http://www.seroundtable.com decrease google PR 6 to 5 :'( :( :(

Barry Schwartz

12/06/2013 01:18 pm

Why is this good news?

Barry Schwartz

12/06/2013 01:19 pm

Yea, so?

Soni Sharma

12/06/2013 01:21 pm

Bcoz I think Page Rank is still a Good Ranking factor and it is more than that. I think it is an award from Google in terms of rating, quality and popularity.

Barry Schwartz

12/06/2013 01:23 pm

But toolbar PageRank is not the real pagerank and it is one of so many ranking factors.

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/06/2013 01:31 pm

we know from a recent Matt Cutt’s video that PageRank is still important, but we should not get obsessed with it: “PageRank while important, it`s one of the most important out of 200 signals that we have, is still one of only 200 signals that we use in ranking.” @soni

newyorker_1

12/06/2013 01:32 pm

that's what people with low PR say...

Imtiaz Ahmed Shuvo

12/06/2013 01:33 pm

Thanks for the Update Barry. I think its a kind of Christmas Treat from Google, as Matt Cutts told before that, there will be no PR update before 2014.

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/06/2013 01:35 pm

Yes Sir, Google's Matt Cutts said: No PageRank Update Before 2014 http://www.seroundtable.com/google-pagerank-update-2014-17478.html

newyorker_1

12/06/2013 01:35 pm

the problem is that way too many people take what Matt Cutts say for granted.

Guest

12/06/2013 01:36 pm

Surely that comes with his position of power in Google?

Imtiaz Ahmed Shuvo

12/06/2013 01:37 pm

Because he is the Key Player for Google Web Spam Team.

Vishal

12/06/2013 01:39 pm

LOL...Barry Trolled!!

Barry Schwartz

12/06/2013 01:39 pm

(1) The video is from 2010 (2) Matt did not say "most" important, he said "more" important but not the most.

Vishal

12/06/2013 01:39 pm

Yes my website http://www.thechelseafc.com/ pagerank also updated... its now 4..thanks Google ..Love U Matt!! ;)

Vishal

12/06/2013 01:40 pm

LOL..Barry Trolled!!

newyorker_1

12/06/2013 01:41 pm

position is worthless if you say one thing and do the other...where is the credibility?

Todd Foster

12/06/2013 01:46 pm

unusual* :)

iqbaltaik

12/06/2013 01:48 pm

don't trus matt cutts, he's liar, not consistent with what he said

newyorker_1

12/06/2013 01:57 pm

when Larry Page was coding PR, MC was working somewhere else. PR more or less was the advantage that Google used to surpass the competition at that time. Although there are many wishful thinkers out there who wish Google excludes PR as ranking factor, I doubt it is going to happen anytime soon. For one Larry Page and Sergey Brin created it, and for 2, it still makes a lot of sense.

Abdul Wahab

12/06/2013 02:01 pm

We observed this today in office. :-)

charlton-heston

12/06/2013 02:42 pm

Hurrah. Google is now fixed :) Google are back to being the best darn thing since sliced bread and are no longer the executioner of small businesses. Thank you google for that little bit of "Soylent Green" (google it)... we can now all return to page 1 where we were before. Thank you, thank you :-)

the designers wall

12/06/2013 02:42 pm

Yep i saw this on my SEO quake toolbar. At first I'm not so sure if it's really updating, then I ask on my group and yes they did update the page rank today.

vvpvijay

12/06/2013 02:43 pm

It was anyhow due, whether Cutts liked it or not. My site comboupdates.com got 2 (its first PR)

Jitendra Vaswani

12/06/2013 02:56 pm

New year Gift by Google , SEO's webmasters are in dilemma due to this unexpected update

JustConsumer

12/06/2013 02:59 pm

Something is wrong ... Can you believe this ? http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4549/w0vi.jpg I used the first result provided by Google Search, using query = PR checker http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php Obviously either PR by itself is wrong or PR checker or Google search, suggesting this PR checker on the top position )

TBSolutions PR Domains

12/06/2013 03:02 pm

I believe it is still running, and I expect a few aftershocks after this big earthquake. I also can't wait to hear what Matt Cutss has to say about it :)

subhashprajapati

12/06/2013 03:11 pm

this is useless

Chris Gedge

12/06/2013 03:18 pm

The only country that still cares about PR score is India. The rest of the world is over it already.

Rick

12/06/2013 03:28 pm

This has been this way forever. Google has always said there is room for improvement.

Luana Spinetti

12/06/2013 03:55 pm

Toolbar PR is as useful as make-up for us women. ;) Nice aesthetics, that's all. And yes, I do sell link, but never made it about PageRank. I've been telling advertisers all the time that other factors are involved when they make a choice (i.e. blog readership, traffic stats, survey reports, blog comments (if they buy a sponsored post), etc.). Some are pretty stubborn, though.

Rick

12/06/2013 03:57 pm

Amazon is N/A for me right now. So it looks like it is still rolling out.

Nandini Prava

12/06/2013 03:59 pm

Just Socking!!!!!!

JustConsumer

12/06/2013 04:04 pm

Definitely not forever ) Last time I checked it around 2010 I'm pretty sure it was 10/10 )

Raheel Farooq

12/06/2013 04:10 pm

Yahooooooooo! I've finally got 2. :)

CaptainKevin

12/06/2013 04:13 pm

Why should this be shocking? Every webmaster and seo forum and blog is now talking about Google. It's free advertising for Google right before the holidays.

CaptainKevin

12/06/2013 04:15 pm

OMG, Chris you are so true! Nearly all of the link selling spam email I get that talks about links with pagerank come from India! I solved the problem on some sites by blocking their IP ranges. This is a good reminder for me to finish the job.

Scott

12/06/2013 04:15 pm

Page rank is the worst system. It does more harm than good. It is so inconsistent and unpredictable. It's the crackhead of website ranking. Why even bother.

jimster

12/06/2013 04:16 pm

If you're changing anything you do at work because of this. You're doing the wrong work.

Sadia Komal

12/06/2013 04:35 pm

Some of my website got pr 6, thanks google

Ashish Ahuja

12/06/2013 05:06 pm

ho ho ho early Christmas present from google my website went to pr4 in 3 months

Ashish Ahuja

12/06/2013 05:07 pm

I am from India and never cared about PR but getting from PR N/a to PR 4 was a nice surprise

Imtiaz Ahmed Shuvo

12/06/2013 05:08 pm

Google has PR9 since last 2 PR update.

Durant Imboden

12/06/2013 05:12 pm

His guess was off by three weeks. Burn him at the stake!

Imtiaz Ahmed Shuvo

12/06/2013 05:14 pm

My new site http://www.hostiee.com got PR3. I guess its not a bad start.

Durant Imboden

12/06/2013 05:16 pm

The UK, too. (London has two industries these days: High finance and low SEO.)

Tushar Verma

12/06/2013 05:18 pm

I got page rank 3 of my blog http://www.archivesofdevelopment.org/. really very nice update.

Hassan Raza Khan

12/06/2013 05:24 pm

I expected it in 2014 not this year as Matt said about this, and today also Matt didn't confirmed it on twitter.

Prince

12/06/2013 06:00 pm

Our forum http://forums.jahirol.com has enriched contents and quality backlinks, but still remains unchanged! :(

spammers=google

12/06/2013 06:04 pm

I love watching all the indians getting excited about PR. Now to filter the words page rank so every email mentioning it and how they can help my SEO will go right to trash without a glance. Thanks goog for making my spam deleting a lot easier.

Zeshan Ahmer

12/06/2013 06:56 pm

Hey Barry, U might be disappointed as you are -1. Google hits seroundtable too..

SKT Wordpress Themes

12/06/2013 06:58 pm

my site http://www.shrikrishnatechnologies.com also got pr 3 from pr 2. Nice. I am happy about it.

xoxo

12/06/2013 07:19 pm

i think it faked pagerank. Matt Cutts have lied us about no pagerank update until 2014, but now decided to put fake pagerank update.

xoxo

12/06/2013 07:21 pm

it just a faked pagerank. google continues "scam webmaster" games.

xoxo

12/06/2013 07:26 pm

it faked pagerank, not real one.

xoxo

12/06/2013 07:27 pm

also it can be fake pr (new year surprise from google).

Ashish Ahuja

12/06/2013 07:33 pm

I see www.seroundtable.com as PR5 so the PR is back

Yo Mamma

12/06/2013 07:34 pm

Junk, junk, junk. And you think I am complaining? The PR system is simply broken. Useless. I can state that sites a few months old with zero backlinks jumped to PR2 from NA. Some were not even indexed (reason unknown) until a few days ago and are PR2. Once again, Google has got to go. More meaningful searches in yandex.com

Yo Mamma

12/06/2013 07:45 pm

No amazon.com is NA One giant Google has not overthrown

Borja Giron

12/06/2013 07:49 pm

Let's see how this affects to the webs

Michael Davis

12/06/2013 07:52 pm

"Increasing my PageRank has cause my organic rankings to improve and for my website to make more money!" said no one since 2009. Hysterical how everyone is getting all excited.

Kira Permunian

12/06/2013 08:18 pm

I am shocked too. I think page rank is already dead.We just got good rank in our sites now.

Juggernart

12/06/2013 08:39 pm

I don't care anymore.

Zeshan Ahmer

12/06/2013 08:43 pm

It was 6 earlier!

David DuVal

12/06/2013 08:49 pm

So maybe we could have a hacked pagerank report form we can fill out? I've got a nice list to send in. This is a list of sites that hacked into sites, placed a hidden link, and are now going to start selling pagerank with their newly acquired PR. Took me 5 minutes to get about a dozen so far. If it is so easy for me, I have to wonder...

JustConsumer

12/06/2013 09:24 pm

btw, Yandex really shocked local SEOs today : http://www.wtff.com/p.php?h=SEO_83

Rick

12/06/2013 09:24 pm

It is updated now to an 8.

JustConsumer

12/06/2013 09:29 pm

I can't imagine someone will buy something like this.

bledo

12/06/2013 09:46 pm

And for me change page rank from 0 for 1 not good :( http://njoftime.co

TBSolutions PR Domains

12/06/2013 10:00 pm

Well, today PR is just one of the indicators for a domain's SEO performance, and greater SEO power means eventually more natural traffic and more sales, so you can't say that there is no correlation at all, it's just a weak one.

Eemes

12/06/2013 10:08 pm

I had told barry about the PR update! But this is great one.

Eemes

12/06/2013 10:13 pm

I hope this time its real, becz inner pages have also been ranked!

Tin thể thao

12/07/2013 04:28 am

My site www.tinthethao.net remains the same ranking No 5. We expected it could increase to 6

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/07/2013 04:43 am

http://www.pinterest.com/ increased the Pagerank Now its 8 PR to 9 PR

Cat Web design

12/07/2013 05:12 am

Cat web design has got benefit by updating Google toolbar page rank.

Srikanth Gattu

12/07/2013 05:18 am

Who cares about PR anymore.

Nội Thất Thời Nay

12/07/2013 07:17 am

Http://noithatthoinay.com.vn increased the Pagerank Now its N/A to PR 2

Joshua

12/07/2013 08:34 am

There are a number of SEOs who sell their services based on PR. I am sure they are ecstatic about this news!

James

12/07/2013 08:55 am

Lots of people, sadly.

Sahil Sharma

12/07/2013 09:01 am

I think something is bad with this update as people are saying their PR is decreased where there traffic is still same. God knows what google is doing or maybe even god don't know haha

Sahil Sharma

12/07/2013 09:02 am

http://www.webdevelopersahil.com/ still on PR 0 :P

Juggernart

12/07/2013 09:11 am

Wouldn't it be interesting to go out into the streets and make a survey about "pagerank" asking people (who are not webmasters or have deeper knowledge about search engines or seo): - if they ever heard of "google pagerank" or even know what it is? (if answered with yes): - if they know what it measures? - if they think it shows the "quality" of a site? - if they pay attention to it and/or find it useful? I'd say that most average Google users don't know about pagerank or don't care about. So what is a public pagerank good for? Does Google want to keep pagerank based links selling alive?

Suraj Gurung

12/07/2013 09:22 am

Looks like PR is still an important factor. Btw yesterday I saw one of my website PR changed from PR1 to PR3. Thanks for the update Barry

Jevgen Tarasenko

12/07/2013 10:14 am

Not sure if the up is fake or PR doesn't play an important role anymore. One of my client's pages - http://www.chocolatetales.ca/pages.yecms/events-corporate just went from 2 to 0, but the rankings raised a day before and are still there. Any thoughts?

Ashish Ahuja

12/07/2013 10:28 am

oops my bad, in seo terms sometime PR -1 is a symbol for PR N/A so misinterpreted your comment

Ashish Ahuja

12/07/2013 10:29 am

and more domains for sale for tbsolutions, you guys must be heaving a sigh of relief

Ashish Ahuja

12/07/2013 10:32 am

PR is just a metric and has a place in seo just like any other metric if ppl understand how its calculated and how it can be used

Arpit Agarwal

12/07/2013 10:37 am

There is something behind Matt Cutts laughing face. He is making webmasters fool. He says: “I hesitate to say “I’d be surprised” but in general I’d expect PR updates to be less of a priority.” ? What kind of hesitation. Few days before he said i will be surprised if he found and PR update before 2014. I think, he is not head of Google’s Webspam team if he don’t know what will be happened in future. It totally waste of time to focusing on any update by Google.

Robinjackson

12/07/2013 11:50 am

Sites with regular updation has got better PR and rest of them has come down !!!! I think the next update of page rank in April 2014

Deerhunter

12/07/2013 01:34 pm

http://tinyurl.com/pgfpn48 They do a very nice PR Boost here ;) I already got it up to PR3

wikiDownload

12/07/2013 02:27 pm

You're doing your client a disservice by posting his link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWLMkFmxck

anyone

12/07/2013 03:09 pm

Seriously, who cares these days about PR besides spammers, link sellers and black hat SEOs?

anyone

12/07/2013 03:21 pm

Lol. It is funny to see all the Indians spammers celebrating the PageRank update and leaving their spam here in the comments, they are so outdated.

Royal Sunset

12/07/2013 03:22 pm

My website still PR0 link - http://www.promocodename.com , hard work not paying..

anyone

12/07/2013 03:27 pm

That isn't gonna change anything in terms of visits or customer engage anyway.

chinakchi

12/07/2013 03:35 pm

apparently you don't and that is why you are commenting here.

meh

12/07/2013 03:35 pm

Oh god.

anyone

12/07/2013 03:41 pm

Duh!

Durant Imboden

12/07/2013 04:11 pm

Maybe they figure that it's better to continue sowing confusion and uncertainty with Toolbar PageRank than to kill it off and have the SEO industry standardize on third-party metrics such as Moz Domain Authority.

Mathew Porter

12/07/2013 04:32 pm

It was a shock after him saying earlier in the year on Twitter that he didnt think it would happen. We have seen quite a few increases.

Safeer Ahmed

12/07/2013 04:59 pm

Biggest Surprise of this year. http://www.techntape.com

Yogita Aggarwal

12/07/2013 05:52 pm

I have got PR 1 for my blog :)

JustProduct

12/07/2013 07:44 pm

PR is a rudiment. It doesn't influence anything.

ThatWeb

12/07/2013 07:57 pm

Biggest surprise when my www.thatweb.net PR5 blog got PR zero :(

akashajazlyn

12/08/2013 04:12 am

without any illegal boost my blog got a PR of 4 from zero http://www.thephotomag.com/

Graciousstore

12/08/2013 04:19 am

No PR change for website

Dima Al Mahsiri

12/08/2013 05:38 am

My blog www.tipsfornaturalbeauty.com got PR 3 which is great, but does that have anything to do with decrease in traffic?

Nauman Ahmed

12/08/2013 06:35 am

Please add me on my Linkedin(mentioned in below comment) and also want to talk to you.

chrisair

12/08/2013 08:14 am

from PR2 into 1, its a headache http://www.fitandfashionmom.com/

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:43 am

utter laughable rubbish. PR has absolutely no place in SEO the sooner people ignore it the better at SEO they will become. we analyse 1million informational transactions per month related to tracking Google's algorithm and there is absolutely ZERO 'constant correlation' between PR and keyword rankings on Google. Anyone who tells you otherwise is not a mathematician - they read blogs, guess and then use the case of a couple of successful websites as their undeniable proof. They wouldn't know how to do a deductive mathematical proof if their income depended on it. So many amateurs stating absolute facts on this site... it's like a kids playground. Go and work out how to do an absolute proof and then it's very very simple. PR is just Google obfuscation. Fact.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:47 am

you can say their is no 'constant' correlation - and if you understood what that meant mathematically you'd understand PR is 100% worthless. It has no value, there is no correlation. It plays no part in Google's algorithm. I'm here trying to save some good honest folks a load of wasted time and this thread is just full of people who haven't got a clue.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:49 am

yep - this update is just trying to sabotage the link sellers and people who make revenue from PR. If you don't ignore PR then you really aren't a professional SEO.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:52 am

and did your rankings and traffic go up by this multiplier over night too? no didn't think so. :-) Ignore PR - your change in PR actually changed nothing did it? simply track your traffic and rankings as a metric to whether you are doing things right. Or if you want accurate metrics use MozPA 7 MozDA.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:54 am

did your rankings half also... did your traffic halve over night as well? don't worry about PR - worry when you lose half your traffic.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 08:58 am

absolutely! Durant you hit the nail on the head. Every other comment on here is redundant. Time to wake up folks. PR is just Google's little joke to attack link sellers and any system that relies on PR for value. I pity anyone who even has the PR toolbar installed...it's ## valueless ## I I don't even get why seo sites like this get excited about it. Maybe they (like Google) are just trying to throw the amateur SEOs off the scent fo what matters? Whilst you sit staring, waiting, aching for that PR bar to change, valuable SEO is passing you by.

ukSEO

12/08/2013 09:19 am

ladies and gentlemen, this comment is just plain wrong. "Despite PageRank still being part of the algorithm," Just do some maths guys, you'll soon have the proof you need. Crunch some serious data. I normally have a fair bit of respect for SEO round table but this particular comment is just misinformation. PR is NOT part of the algorithm. Now I must confess we have only tested this to parts per million but I think even you'd agree that proving it's not even 0.00001% of the algorithm is very much like saying it's worthless. Yes I know it's not 100% before someone comments - but it is enough for some of you to realise it's not even remotely worthwhile looking at this figure as a ranking metric - ever! On this occasion you are simply confusing the change in algorithm that coincides with a PR update as this - PR changed my rankings! You quote this as empirical evidence... it isn't. It's 99.99999% uncorrelated. It is so naive. Go and Google deductive arguments and mathematical proofs. Maybe read some papers by Thomas Khun. Who ? Yeah that's what I thought you'd say. Just do it and then go and try and prove your statement. Which is made like a fact and is just a guess - how do I know - we've done the proof and you are wrong. Don't take my word for it or argue the point with hearsay and 10 sites out of 1 billion that prove your point. Try and do a mathematical proof on at least 1 million sites and then you will see you are wrong. I hope you have the determination to try it... if not p!ss your life away watching your PR tool bar - it's like Jack Sparrow's compass! :-) And as for Matt Cutts... what can I say, he's just f!cking with you all... and laughing all the way to the bank as he does it.

James

12/08/2013 10:33 am

Excuse me, but who do you think you are? Why do you write in such an arrogant manner? No one knows the exact formula for Google's ranking system, and that includes you.

Dima Al Mahsiri

12/08/2013 12:15 pm

Talk about what ? I am sorry I don't add people whom I don't know. But you can still contact me on my "Contact us" page on my blog, if you have any questions.

Lib

12/08/2013 12:40 pm

I want more facts not more bickering. I'm as confused as hell as to what this all means.

Jevgen Tarasenko

12/08/2013 02:08 pm

Actually PR drop is not my direct fault. The page was reconstructed recently and there were issues with sitemap and indexing which I wasn't aware of for about a week. Again, the rankings and traffic are still there. Thanks for offensive response and have a nice day.

JustProduct

12/08/2013 02:54 pm

You'd better read the thread carefully before suggesting others to read something else. Here is the brief summary for you : - Barry wrote the post because it will definitely attract attention. According to your hysteria and social bar to the left the goal was achieved ; - bloggers, guys from India and other SEO experts are happy. Well, not everyone counts traffic by tens of thousands as probably you do (you do count traffic by big figures, don't you? )) Let them have fun, watching the longer green line ; - others either ignore this news or, as me, use it as the another opportunity to promote themselves. That's it. Everyone knows exactly what for s/he is here. Please find your place, take the seat and relax ) Your hysteria is too noisy.

monikarawat

12/08/2013 04:35 pm

My blog got pr 1 www.ureadthis.com. We're happy form this update :)

monikarawat

12/08/2013 04:38 pm

OMG!!!

monikarawat

12/08/2013 04:47 pm

Cogrates :)

Stuart David

12/08/2013 05:06 pm

On your high horse much ...

Stuart David

12/08/2013 05:07 pm

You shouldn't buy links then, just looking at your back link profile it wreaks, just a few weeks ago your backlinks trebled

White Rabbit InfoTech

12/08/2013 05:11 pm

I'm sad with this update, because my website got pr 0.

Alex

12/08/2013 06:12 pm

congrats to everyone with Google PR update a couple of days ago! My web-site http://topspanishhomes.com got PR2!

wateraid

12/08/2013 08:10 pm

Our website has gone from PR5 to PR3 - which was a bring down as we follow all googles rule. I was mad as hell until I saw our traffic went up over 10% for the day... highest saturday traffic all year. whoop whoop. Most of our competition SERPs page 1 on our top keywords got PR up not down. I'm sure they buy links and all that stuff. So that kinda sucked. But we've gone past em anyhows. I don't get it. Why did we get PR downgraded? If they don't like us then why do we move up the rankings. It makes no sense googlers. (not that I'm complaining). ;)

JustProduct

12/08/2013 10:39 pm

Try to read before ask. (for ex. below)

xoxo

12/09/2013 01:07 am

googlers just need more blood...

Kaloyan Banev

12/09/2013 02:22 am

Certainly unexpected. Honestly I've always had my doubts that PR will go away, but certainly don't understand why Matt Cutts mentioned no-PR update until the end of the year, a month before the update.

AhsanParwez

12/09/2013 03:39 am

Barry you need to stop people spamming in the comments, no one needs a list of spammy websites that had PR changed.

Rakhi Arya

12/09/2013 04:49 am

I am neutral. My website was on 0 PR before update and after update it is on 0 PR. Although i am following all Google rules. Why Google is doing this with me?

Ydeveloper

12/09/2013 05:10 am

PR is indeed a good measurement of website performance, if we think about any replacement, it will not anything different than rank. So, why should it be stopped? Let it continue and think for harder calculation process for PR, which will automatically remove spam at all.

Kiara Fernandes

12/09/2013 06:22 am

It was totally unexpected but in my site! I got changes the pr increase by1. http://www.keyideasinfotech.com/

Guest

12/09/2013 06:55 am

happy with PR updates

IT Suvidha

12/09/2013 06:56 am

Happy with PR Updates http://www.itsuvidha.in

romanUK

12/09/2013 07:17 am

I second that, but there is no need to be so arrogant, mate!

not larry page

12/09/2013 07:38 am

Maybe he is Larry Page..

Ashish Ahuja

12/09/2013 08:03 am

lol I fell down laughing. First of all google PR update happens with a time lag for the public whereas internal PR update happens on regular basis, so how can you mathematically deduce if PR is relevant for ranking when the PR metric is not available in real time or is not reliable since most of the time its not updated for months. "PR has no place in Seo" is a good statement to confuse newbies. I am not saying PR is the holy grail but to say it has no place in seo is laughable rubbish. I mentioned that PR is just another metric if a person knows how to use it. How does it make me a person harping that PR is the holy grail or absolute fact of seo, its just another metric. If you have got a mathematical deduction or have got proof as you have mentioned, I would be very interested in testing its authenticity, otherwise it makes you just as amateurish coming to the judgement with your colored glasses that PR has no correlation with ranking.

Ashish Ahuja

12/09/2013 08:08 am

@disqus_SW7Hsph5pa:disqus are you replying to my comment or tbsolutions comment. I think you did not get the sarcasm in my comment saying tbsolutions (which is a pr domain broker) would be happy with this PR update as it increases their business.

Ashish Ahuja

12/09/2013 08:12 am

yeah its not gonna change anything as PR is updated internally with google on more periodical basis and the public update is just showing it to the world. So public PR update is just an aftereffect

AlexDobre

12/09/2013 09:04 am

Nice PR Updates http://www.slabsaugras.ro/

Chameleon Web Services

12/09/2013 09:51 am

This is an interesting update by Google, we should be looking at whether the update has made a positive or negative effect on the Page Rank. Did you Google Page Rank Drop? http://www.chameleonwebservices.co.uk/pagerank-drop-why/

Zeshan Ahmer

12/09/2013 09:59 am

Why do u care for PR

Barry Schwartz

12/09/2013 10:54 am

It's always like this when I post about PR updates. I'll clean it up later. It doesn't pass link juice anyway.

Anne de Zoysa

12/09/2013 11:04 am

I don't know what impact gonna have this page rank after Google said no impact. But I didn't get a page rank for my website? http://online-flowerdelivery.co.uk/ mine is still 0.

Thanh Huynh

12/09/2013 01:10 pm

My http://www.health6.com/ from 6 down to 0 .. good update..

rocketraja

12/09/2013 02:40 pm

I purchased links for last 6 months and i got pr5 :D thankyou google.

Mark Boyd

12/09/2013 04:25 pm

Page Rank is a good barometer of a website, but really nothing more. I use page rank when looking at a prospective new client's site as a barometer of whether or not they're doing things properly. If they have a high page rank, but the content quality is low, that's a pretty reliable indicator that they probably bought links, etc. If they have high page rank and the content quality is high, that's a pretty reliable indicator that they're doing things properly and at least making an effort to be Google compliant.

The Bridge

12/09/2013 04:38 pm

Matt Cutt is full poop. I'm sure the other engineers at google fill him full of mis-information, sit back and laugh their socks off at him. Practically everything he goes on about turns out to be wrong most of the time.

HowtofindWFH

12/10/2013 01:46 am

Since I had not achieved Page Rank yet and had heard they were no longer going to use PR, I was pleased l achieved a PR2.

jitendra

12/10/2013 05:49 am

i think there are no change in India one of the my site 4yo4.com has 2 pr and i don't work for this site and this is still 2 pr after change. and one of the my site mearning.com have 0 pr with still 0 pr but i m work on this site every day and more then 1000 unique view from google search i think there are some mistake in India :(

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:07 am

many websites lost their PR. nothing new

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:09 am

PR is an important but nowdays PR is not reliable

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:11 am

Ye ashish

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:11 am

Pinterest deserved that increase

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:11 am

Yes Moz domain authority is better. PR is fluctuating too much. I have seen many good blogs lost their PR. Future is uncertain for Google Page Rank Algo

Jitendra Vaswani

12/10/2013 06:13 am

very lucky ashish.

Sonia Madan

12/10/2013 09:32 am

http://www.oodlestechnologies.com/ decreased PR to 2 on this update. :(

Aman

12/10/2013 12:12 pm

My blog ranking decreasing and don't know why can anyone tell whats the matter with my blog www.getmascular.blogspot.com

ivanpw

12/10/2013 02:56 pm

I've seem most of my blogs' magic green bar increasing in size. Yay!... or not? Well, I don't really care about PR - what I care now is DA... and most importantly, the number of people who visited my blogs - and keep on visiting on regular basis.

radin pars

12/11/2013 09:01 am

I got page ranke 1 in this update. Ive got disappointed, i really expected 2 or higher. http://www.radinpars.com

Guest

12/11/2013 09:04 am

my website got rank 1. i expected 2 or higher but its not bad. www.radinpars.com

Shital Bhalani

12/12/2013 05:16 am

age Rank is a good barometer of a website, but really nothing more. I use page rank when looking at a prospective new client's site as a barometer of whether or not they're doing things properly. If they have a high page rank, but the content quality is low, that's a pretty reliable indicator that they probably bought links, etc. If they have high page rank and the content quality is high, that's a pretty reliable indicator that they're doing things properly and at least making an effort to be Google compliant. http://proresult.in

Codingbrains

12/12/2013 12:17 pm

Mine page rank not varied anyway , still the same . Do you know new pattern of Google to Alot Page Rank SEE HERE - http://goo.gl/rkbK2Z

wikiDownload

12/12/2013 11:09 pm

no you fool, I meant putting his link on this site

osman musa

12/13/2013 05:08 am

don't be disappointed, with the traffic i was getting from search engines I thought I would get 5 or more but didn't. Expect the unexpected is lesson here.

osman musa

12/13/2013 05:11 am

Lol, u thanking Google for increasing your site on paid links. Good luck!

osman musa

12/13/2013 05:22 am

nothing surprises me anymore, all of my 3 sites including a news one all got page rank 3 ironically or coincidentally.

jenny alberd

12/13/2013 06:33 am

Well, My site got down to 1 from no. 2. It's sad but still my site getting more than 30 thousand visitors in a month which is not bad for me.

osman musa

12/13/2013 01:35 pm

Who cares about a major social site and its rank update. Disqusd your own.

osman musa

12/13/2013 01:43 pm

Its googles ever changing internal pr that causes me yo earn a lot from more traffic. I got adsense proof too.

Chris Hawkes

12/14/2013 03:20 am

Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.

Chris Hawkes

12/14/2013 03:24 am

My sites a 2 as well but I'm not all that excited about it.

Guest

12/14/2013 01:02 pm

My PR went up from 1 to 3 @ http://www.surveyjet.net. Not that it is a spectacular change, but the only thing I changed there was adding social media buttons and FB comment section. Power of Social Media my friends :)

Kamaldeep Singh SEO

12/16/2013 05:02 am

I got 2 PR

Kanna

12/16/2013 07:55 am

Mistake not in India :) please correct your comment as "Google India"

Kyle

12/16/2013 11:59 pm

Anyone who thinks the PR is not part of the algo is essentially wearing a tin foil hat and claiming a Google conspiracy. The fact is, it's not the same as it was in 2003, but it still exists, and the factors that contribute to your PageRank have changed a lot in 2012, but PageRank still exists. Across my couple dozen sites, I'd say it was pretty accurate. Giving a boost to the ones with good content, real links and social signals, while demoting a few that we had done black hat tactics that don't work anymore. I would say the numbers were pretty accurate for us, in terms of which of our sites are ranking and getting traffic, and which ones are not. If anything, you can take this: If your Page Rank went from 6 to 0, they discovered your crappy 2009 backlinking style and demoted your importance.

Kolaverid

12/17/2013 07:05 am

I built so many links still my site didnt rise up in pr..still 0 http://www.apkuniverse.org/

David Scarpitta

12/17/2013 09:06 am

Our retail site at http://www.Dascheap.com got hit by 3 to 2. We've changed alot of internal structure but our sharing and social is up, so really I feel pagerank is a bit overstated nowadays.

Aditya

12/17/2013 09:50 am

I Saw one of the Social Media website itself went down from 3 to 2 https://www.facebook.com/DreamzInfra Y I am telling this is, usually social media links will go top and will not come down,I don't know what happened here

Fast SEO Tools

12/20/2013 11:38 am

I wish people would recognize that pagerank is no longer important! As website owners and business owners we should really focus on building trust with our visitors and customers. Rather then being obsessed by a small number which has very little meaning any more, domain authority and page authority took over a very long time ago! It's time bloggers moved on and when it comes to selling links judge a domain on more important metrics...

rohit

12/23/2013 04:48 am

i have a confusion here....after the recent pr update the home page of my pest control website went from 0 to 2 but my some of my inner pages have got pr 3 and my blog page got pr 4....how is it possible that home page has less pr and inner pages have more pr..what could me the reason for that..my website is www dot brooklynpestcontrolservices dot com

pradeep11394

12/24/2013 04:49 am

Sir, I want to know that my site http://dreamesuccess.com is also hit by google or not. I am very disappointed by google. Please help me.

Anthony Turner

12/29/2013 08:57 pm

I am not happy one bit. My page rank did not move from 0. I have spent months trying to improve it for this update. Building links, and developing useful content. Nothing. Man that sucks. Can you tell me what is wrong with my blog? http://thebrokenson.com

Anonymous

01/04/2014 03:18 pm

Because it's broken?

Sean

01/04/2014 08:22 pm

I agree it isn't important but everyone uses it when weeding out what is a good site to contact and what isn't. You won't get many people emailing you asking to be a guest writers with a PR 1 compared to a PR4, even if the two sites have the same Page Authority. Unfortunately my small blog only moved from a 1 to a 2, even though I have been linked on hundreds of relevant sites since the last update and my page authority is now 40. Oh well, I was personally hoping this would get me more guest bloggers..

Rebel

01/05/2014 07:55 am

Hurray!!! My Pagerank increased from PR 0 to PR 1 for indianpoliticalforum.in

lol

01/07/2014 11:22 am

Page rank isnt important? You just carry right on believing that

Nest Bedding

01/16/2014 12:32 am

I am confused. In May, my site, like many others, all of a sudden tanked in natural search. I have worked hard to disavow and clean up links (no manual action, just severe drop in traffic) I was PR 2 before that, having gone from nothing to 2 in about 6 months, then nothing for a while, then this big drop in May, only to find here in December we bumped up to PR3! Not sure what it means...my site is http://www.nestbedding.com

Nest Bedding

01/16/2014 12:33 am

If it isn't important, then why would Google not only still post it but update it?

Webmaster Sun

01/17/2014 06:59 am

My www.webmastersun.com from 1 down to 3 .. no more as my expectation but it's enough for me, Honestly i don't care about PR more :)

George Rix

01/22/2014 08:36 pm

My site remains a PR 3, but my thumb pages, all once a PR3 also, suddenly drop to down to PR 2...I don't know what I did wrong either, I had only added a bit of content to them. My site is www.seawitchartist.com

Soyab Akaram

02/03/2014 11:34 am

Great and really awesome http://www.myshayari.net/

Guest

02/04/2014 12:24 pm

It's because your Meta data isn't properly and it might have something to do with all the ads on the homepage.

jitendra

02/11/2014 06:53 am

Yes You Are right Kanna

Steven Repka

02/12/2014 11:58 pm

PageRank 0 to PageRank 2 on websitestats.us. Even with a .us ccTLD haha. How much does PageRank have to do with domain age? Obviously inbound/outbound links have a greater impact, but does anyone know what has the greatest affect on PageRank 0-10?

shopbabylovevn

02/15/2014 01:01 pm

how to make my site http://babylovevn.com over PR 3? Thanks for help!

Andre

04/20/2014 08:45 pm

I'm still trying to find out when the next google pagerank update will be? Can anybody tell me. Thank you : http://havhit.com

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