 Below is live coverage of the Competitors from the Darkside - Rogue SEO Tactics panel from the PubCon 2011 conference.
Below is live coverage of the Competitors from the Darkside - Rogue SEO Tactics panel from the PubCon 2011 conference.
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                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:10:32 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Starting in 5 minutes or so
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:15:52 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Here we go - first up is Giovanni Gallucci
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:16:11 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:16:57 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He is going to do the softer stuff, steve will give you harder stuff and Carolyn will give you stuff that will prevent u from sleeping
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:17:14 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:17:50 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He said there is nothing else to learn in SEO so now he is a professional photographer
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:18:09 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He had no business doing professional photographer so he hacked his way in
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:18:30 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:18:59 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He shot a local jaguer dealership photography for them
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:19:14 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    How do you fake your way into an industry and be successful at it
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:19:24 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    You need to learn what tools you need for which jobd
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:19:27 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    jobs
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:20:16 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:21:57 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    You need to build relationships also
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:22:21 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He went to the band's dad and not to the publicist
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:23:38 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Build a portfolio, get experience. Do stuff for free and for research.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:24:12 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Make sure to plan
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:26:04 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Yes, he is not talking about rogue SEO tactics, he is talking about rogue career development
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:26:55 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    When you do bad things, such as talk at a conference about black hat,
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:27:24 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Fake media badges to get into events, counterfeit badges
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:29:09 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Good stuff to come
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:29:16 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    stay tuned
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:30:11 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    If people threaten to sue you, they won't sue you. If they want to sue you, they will sue you. (not too sure about that)
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:31:31 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Black hat people who are successful are because they are also invisibile
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:32:16 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:34:00 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:34:52 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He sneaked up to the stage to get that picture of Kiss
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:35:01 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He goes places he is not suppose to be
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:37:43 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He spoke about photography here because he was about to get a job but didnt get the job b/c he talked about black hat SEO. So now he talks about black hat photography.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:38:07 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Steve Plunkett is now up, asking who knows what a link wheel
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:38:41 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:38:54 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Ethics & Liability
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:39:17 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    JC Penney got slapped and they are still in Google
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:40:16 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Do your due diligence, with black hat, you will break Google's rules.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:41:01 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Black hat typically means things that you do that are against the search engine guidelines via danny sullivan
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:41:09 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Bing has the same rules
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:42:15 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Black hat is hidden text, hidden pages, excessive content, automated link creation, content obfuscation, etc
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:42:36 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Link Wheel Service
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:42:47 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:42:57 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Squidoo is an example of this
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:44:02 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Blackhats try to sneak in too many balls. Whitehates can file reconsideration and come back to play again. @mattcutts
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:44:18 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    He does not participate link schemes
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:45:09 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Google wants people to report. HE keeps saying report spam, report spam.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:45:59 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Only report spam if you are perfect -- Carolyn Shelby said, you don't rat out someone for having pot in their locker, if you have pot in your locker.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:46:05 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Carolyn Shelby is now up
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:46:23 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:46:40 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Things she will tell you may get you in jail, she is telling you to protect you so you dont do it.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:47:32 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Nice people have bad habits, avoid confrontation, believe nice people are rewarded, they trust people and they believe life is fair.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:47:42 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    This is not good for people, business is war
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:48:00 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Being paranoia is healthy... Carolyn always assumes the worse
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:48:11 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    You need back up plans and maintain a war chest.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:48:47 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    war chest is a stock pile of money that you never trust
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:48:51 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    trust = touch
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:48:59 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Technological Machinations
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:49:51 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Types of Badness:
 - Script kiddies, spammers looking to exploit your resources. Looking for sites that have weaknesses.
 - Attacks with intent: competitors, disgruntles employees, ex-girlfriends, etc.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:50:50 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Types of Security:
 - Luck
 - Obscurity
 - Proximity
 - Physical
 - Network
 - Superior Litigation
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:53:03 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Trust is the biggest liability of all
 - Shred your documents
 - Dont give everyone admin access
 - Run background checks on employees and vendors
 - Something really important, do it yourself.
 - Plan for the worst anyway with disaster recovery and off site backups
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:54:56 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Firesheep - it sniffs networks and gives you passwords, etc.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:55:52 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:55:52 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Here is a pic
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:56:27 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Facesniff is for Android
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:58:08 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    How do you and your employees access your systems
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:58:16 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Where are your servers location
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        3:58:26 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Who does the backups and where are they kept?
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:58:34 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    IF X goes down what happens to your business?
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        3:58:46 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Do you have contracts, insurance and business structure
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:01:20 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Legal: If you can't beat someone in the SERPs... Remove them by restoring their business.
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:01:50 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Law makes everyone equal, but justice goes to the highest bidder
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:03:21 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:04:50 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Most people don't have the money for lawyers...
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Michael Martinez:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:04:53 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    "Remove them by restoring their business" ???
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:05:09 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    @michael - sorry, restoring = removing (long day)
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:05:26 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
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                                        4:06:34 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Barry Schwartz:
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:07:17 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    FYI, last session in 15 minutes "Whats New at Bing and Blekko?" then PubCon sessions are over and I fly back tonight and do video recap on zero sleep
                                
                             
                        
                            
                                
                                    
                                                                                    Steve Matthews :
                                                                            
                                    
                                        4:11:21 pm
                                    
                                
                                
                                    Thanks for doing this Barry. I listened in on both yours and Brian's live blogging. Well done!
Steve