Updated: Google Update April 2012? Over SEO Penalty?

Apr 17, 2012 • 8:21 am | comments (115) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates
 

Google UpdateIn the past 20 hours or so, I have seen a huge uptick in the number of complaints in the Google Webmaster Help forums with people complaining that their sites no longer rank in Google.

Update: This is not the "over optimization" penalty as we thought. Matt Cutts posted on Google+ it is related to a "classifier for parked domains" which went haywire. Google fixed the issue, Matt said:

I saw a recent post where several sites were asking about their search rankings. The short explanation is that it turns out that our classifier for parked domains was reading from a couple files which mistakenly were empty. As a result, we classified some sites as parked when they weren't.

I apologize for this; it looks like the issue is fixed now, and we'll look into how to prevent this from happening again.

So I guess we are still on a holding pattern for the over optimization penalty.

Here is the rest of the post as it was...

I captured 11 different complaint threads before stopping, I suspect there are about 25 or more complaint threads and many many more webmasters suffering from a possible Google update. Here are some of those 11 threads; #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11 and many more.

The ongoing WebmasterWorld thread has taken notice of this as well. One said:

Our niche has been heavy shaked up. Most of the upcoming ecom sites are low quality - > I think it has somthing to do with the "overoptimzed" and "level" efforts, cause this shops only have little ranges and will not hit the SEO overoptimized barrier.

Google has not officially announced something yet, but this can very well likely be the overly SEO penalty Matt Cutts pre-announced. Keep in mind, we had a Panda update a few weeks ago, Panda 3.4.

Did you notice major changes in the search results?

Forum discussion at Google Webmaster Help.

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Comments:

Simone Luciani

04/17/2012 12:30 pm

I did see some major changes on a client's site. I'm still analysing to understand a bit more about it... will keep you updated. Thanks for the article.

Guest

04/17/2012 12:41 pm

I think it's some updation or rollback of Panda as I have seen a Pandalize site getting back to where it was before March 23 Panda update.

Ricky Shah

04/17/2012 12:55 pm

One of my site has been severely affected by yet to be announced Panda update. Google has definitely rolled out a Panda update silently

Brands Exposed

04/17/2012 01:06 pm

There has been masses of emails sent out to lots of sites using bad link networks, great stuff!

Barry Schwartz

04/17/2012 01:08 pm

Yea, covered that a few weeks ago. This seems new.

Yasir

04/17/2012 01:08 pm

Yes, I saw quite a few threads on some forums where people are saying that there websites are no more index. A person mentioned that all of his 700 have been de-indexed !

Nick Stamoulis

04/17/2012 01:51 pm

I spoke with a site owner that said many of their pages were de-indexed, but they hadn't gotten any kind of notifications from Google Webmaster Tools that their site was penalized. I guess it's a wait and see moment for now (not that many site owners are going to like that).

Raven Rove

04/17/2012 02:41 pm

I had an huge impact on my website today... I lost all my links from Google Search Engine.. I had never used any spam SEO. All my submissions were category specific and all human effort. Also I used to write my own content, never did any copy writing job, all fresh content. Website was business profile but don't know what parameters Google used to de-index me. Please let me know how to deal with this situation. My Website URL: http://techmaza.com

Ryan Burnsworth

04/17/2012 02:50 pm

I have noticed the threads too within the past day or so. I haven't noticed any bad effects, not to gloat, but I have actually seen some sizeable increases in three client websites, and even a 24 point jump on a high-comp keyword. So I cannot complain. My condolences for everyone else.

FreshWebSEO

04/17/2012 02:53 pm

Wow Raven. Its not spam links that hurt your site, it is over using advertisements. Google must have just caught up with your site with this new update. Try ridding some of the ads above the fold, and seeing what that does for you.

Ryan Burnsworth

04/17/2012 02:57 pm

One more tip Raven. I am suspecting you are having problems with a high bounce rate. If you have the time, knowledge, or financial backing, try using a wordpress website and re-implement your existing content in a more visitor friendly/well-organized manner. This will help in decreasing your bounce rate and increase your rank.

Raven Rove

04/17/2012 03:31 pm

Yes I know this could be the reason, but atleast they should have informed about these things in my webmaster... I know there are lot of publishers to whom Google has to answer.. but if they have an algorithm to track what is wrong in our websites then they should also implement a trigger function to let us know what we should change before taking any severe actions.. Thanks for your Idea, I will implement it soon.. Take Care.. 

Chris

04/17/2012 04:22 pm

On one keyword I monitor a competitor, whom I hate, who achieved most of their ranking from blog comment spam and other such things, is now no longer anywhere to be seen in the first few pages of results. Others in this very competitive niche are gone too. My site moved up. All other main keywords I monitor I'm still maintaining existing high (1 or 2, or both) rankings. 

Rachel

04/17/2012 04:29 pm

It's too early to specify.  We need 24 hours to get more data before coming to any conclusion.

Get Ranked

04/17/2012 04:48 pm

They are going after inorganic links it seems.

Chadadam43

04/17/2012 04:52 pm

in regards to the over optimization penalty. I was hovering at number 2 for philadelphia seo for about a month. Yesterday the #1 spot received a super heavy penalty. In fact i couldn't even find their home page. I found an internal page on page 10 of google in the serp. I suspect it is because they use link wheels and i do not. Listed in their services for clients this is the main way they get clients ranking, by using these link wheels. I would think that using this strategy could be pertained as over optimized. So i was number one yesterday. However i made a must needed navigational change that knocked me down to number 2 again. But it will come back to number 1 in a short time.

Nick23232

04/17/2012 05:01 pm

One of my websites has been completely removed from the rankings, i suspect it was because of over optimization on the home page. I can in fact say this is 100% true, my site had been good till about yesterday morning till the updates probably took affect.

Dr. Peter J. Meyers

04/17/2012 05:02 pm

I've been seeing an increase in SERP fluctuations that started around 4/13 and spiked yesterday. Definitely seems like something is going on.

Thos003

04/17/2012 05:06 pm

 I've noticed a swing. Sites that I felt were better qualified for keywords have dropped, and sites that I've hardly touched picked up. In one case a site that hardly ranked before now completely dominates a search term.

joshua

04/17/2012 05:12 pm

have you seen any go up? filling voids or a panda refresh? (i.e., releasing pandalized sites)

Clayburn Griffin

04/17/2012 06:23 pm

Mine was hit hard, for no reason.  It's not even competitive.  It's my personal website.  Exact match domain, now doesn't rank for my name at all. Also, the strange thing is that all sites hosted on the same server are affected indiscriminately. So, chances are, some random domain I have parked could have been responsible for losing the first ranking for my name. My Google+ profile also has fallen to page 3. It usually is at the bottom of page 1 or top of page 2. I only just recently added my blog as a site I contribute to on my profile. So, I wonder if that had any effect too.

Webnauts

04/17/2012 06:58 pm

From my observations, I see a combination of on-page (high keyword densities, anchor texts, less or near duplicated content) and off-site (inorganic and/or unnatural /paid inbound links) over-optimization penalties. Looks like Google is doing a great job after all.

The PokerGosh

04/17/2012 07:01 pm

My impressions dropped down, the ranking for my main keyword made it to 2nd page(was at the 4th page before) but the visitors to my page dropped heavily... I think it doesn't make sense...

Dr. Peter J. Meyers

04/17/2012 07:10 pm

Sorry, to clarify - I'm tracking an index of SERP changes - it's not specific clients and doesn't distinguish between rankings going up vs. down. It's essentially a measure of volatility in the Top 10.

Clayburn Griffin

04/17/2012 07:12 pm

Maybe, but they are indiscriminately attacking all sites sharing hosting with offending sites, it seems.  So, some are getting taken out in the crossfire.

Guest

04/17/2012 08:51 pm

Did my comments disappear? 

Webnauts

04/17/2012 09:45 pm

 Do you have any evidence about that?

Wake Up Niggaz

04/18/2012 01:09 am

When are you people going to wake up? People complain about losing rankings, Google earnings increase. This is for the next quarter, SEOs do not advertise and target high $ keywords. Google hates you, do not listen to the crook Cutts, he works for Google. Google results are rigged to make the most money for Adwords.

Fred

04/18/2012 01:31 am

Danny, thanks for posting this. As usual great job.  I think this was (at least part of) the algorithm release for over-SEO that we have been anticipating. I have been watching the results for "car insurance" since SE Land had an article on that term.  Recently, an affiliate site had been in those results that just didn't make any sense to me. That site was there yesterday, and gone today. Now the results for "car insurance" look REALLY good to me... 8 car insurance companies + 1 broker + Wikipedia's vehicle insurance article + local results.   I am VERY impressed as these are the results at least *I* expect to see when I run this query. I have had my differences with Google in the past, but I think these results are really really good. Comparing

Barry Schwartz

04/18/2012 01:32 am

Barry posted this. :)

Fred

04/18/2012 01:45 am

Darn it. I meant Barry. I am so sorry!  But still, great job.

Barry Is a Dope

04/18/2012 01:46 am

When you search for car insurance you want a site to find the cheapest price from a comparing service, not a list of car insurance companies. Google shows the list because it makes more money for them. Kaching!

Barry Schwartz

04/18/2012 01:47 am

No need to be sorry, it is a compliment. 

Barry Schwartz

04/18/2012 01:48 am

Car insurance was not my example but I love you also.

SEOTEXT

04/18/2012 02:03 am

Interessting! We are talking a lot about this in Denmark as well, but not sure if big G will do the same here? What do u think? 

Joshrr

04/18/2012 04:13 am

FYI google fixed this problem. Rankings are restored

Victoria Adison

04/18/2012 05:12 am

awesome.......

TechMaza

04/18/2012 06:27 am

Google Back in action after 20 hours

TechMaza

04/18/2012 06:29 am

Dear Matt, When is Next Update or Database Modification?

Ebook Google

04/18/2012 09:33 am

We have the same problem in Italy. More solutions to this problem?

Jason

04/18/2012 11:25 am

Been hit by every update this year but usually recover after a week or so-it's very odd. Each time I come back from a loss of two thirds traffic back to normal.  I know what/where this issue is. I have downloadable files on their own pages and for whatever reason Google doesn't like those pages but ironically it likes the pages of the person who stole the content from my site many months after I first posted it.  Also these pages are what people with in the niche search for? So is giving what customers are looking for somehow overly optimized? It seems that way.

Karen

04/18/2012 01:46 pm

Interesting that so many people are complaining about dropped rankings and dips in traffic, we've seen a very noticeable improvement in rankings accross most of our sites since the update was released. Has anyone else been pleasantly surprised by the update?

Farfell

04/18/2012 01:54 pm

I love it: somebody here smells a whiff of a Google fart (i.e. update!) and suddenly everyone chimes in with reports of huge swings...WHAT UTTER NONSENSE: I have tracked the same very defined niche for years - there hasn't been so much as a blip in any direction in that time. The same crap sites that litter the top rankings at the expense of (FAR BETTER!) sites beneath them continue to populate the top echelon - they live there because all this nonsense about bad or unnatural links is - if it exists at all as a penalty - directed at new(er) sites while the old(er) sites are completely grandfathered in and don't need to pay any attention to anything or spend a minute's worth of their time trying to parse up some Matt Cutts commentary as if it were being broadcast from the Kremlin.  I feel like Cher in Moonstruck: **SLAP!!!** SNAP OUT OF IT PEOPLE!!!

kirfan

04/18/2012 01:57 pm

Yesterday my websites got vanished from google ranking and today one of the site got same ranking positions that have before updates. Any chances that i get my all the sites ranking back?

Fedyap

04/18/2012 02:00 pm

My sites are up. Maybe those people with 100,000 links with identical links text should have made them more organic instead of link building like a robot. I'm glad to see sites with unrealistic amounts of links get what they deserve.

Sayeed @ Immediate Care

04/18/2012 02:45 pm

It seems that  some sites are just not following all the guidelines and now are upset because they are being penalized finally. We are doing better than ever and all we did was read the recommended techniques and sift through what is ok and what is borderline black hat and avoided it.

Jay_ayers

04/18/2012 03:48 pm

Yep - several site have gone up - our own included - honesty and white hat is the way forward me thinks...

Purple Trout

04/18/2012 04:12 pm

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! No cause for alarm. 

Jason

04/18/2012 04:17 pm

Problems is if you are already ranking No 1 in your niche you can not see improvements like some are talking about. Further, many sites that get hit by updates have not part taken in black hat techniques.  But the reality is you have 100k+ sites competing for top position in Google and people are going to lose out at updates and some will benefit. The issue comes really when a decent site that ranked well is  not just knocked down a few positions but drops 2 or 3 pages. It will never be perfect as it is an algorithm based system them doesn't know a good site from bad.

Jason

04/18/2012 04:22 pm

Sayeed. In fairness your site you are trying to get some juice from @ immediate care does not rank very well at all for its main keywords. Maybe comment when you have a site that ranks No 1 and thousands of visitors a day for several years just vanish over night.

Fedor

04/18/2012 05:50 pm

Whitehat can be done wrong, to the extreme when done for years and not penalized for it. Can't blame Google for telling people what they should NOT do for years and not acting on it until now. I have sites with a few dozen aged organic links that outrank sites with 10,000+ links and they've only been climbing since first panda update. I gotta admin I'm a little lazy when it comes to link building but I was happy with the organic links I was getting and now I'm better off for it. Traffic has gone up another 20% in the past week. Tripled since first panda. So, from what I can tell, most people are benefiting from this, since they don't do intensive SEO in extreme niches.

Thos003

04/18/2012 11:41 pm

I understand if there was a bug, but perhaps it set off an early warning shot as it was initiated with some kind of update. The bug response does not explain all the movement seen. ...It is possible that other movements I noticed were not related and simply because of the fire burning they caught my attention.

Barry Schwartz

04/18/2012 11:45 pm

Up to you it you want to believe Matt or not.

triseo

04/19/2012 12:41 am

panda 3.4 ? hope at Mass Cutts 

Jim

04/19/2012 04:02 am

I find it interesting that he is talking about parked domains. Seems Google is trying to track down those HIGH PR blogs before they are even made!

Atif Zain

04/19/2012 05:45 am

Hello Every One, Two of my websites have been restored on same ranking as they were on but rest of others are still no where in Google. Waiting for their SOS message. I hope Google still have some level of respect for us, the SEOs :)

iWebSquare

04/19/2012 06:03 am

I hate those who are doing such activities like registering domain and store it for a long for re-sale. This should be penalize. The problem for now is that how to identify such domains.

Website Design Company

04/19/2012 07:28 am

In recent two years I am watching that a lot of changes, updates by Google, Yes I agree that changes are made to reform the system but on the other hand it also points how much volatile it is

TechMaza

04/19/2012 08:31 am

OHHH NO NOT AGAIN! Everything was good after Matt's reply and now today I see my sites are down and loosing visitors again. Is Matt still Playing?

Sir_Brizz

04/19/2012 09:08 am

I love the idea of punishing people for doing too much SEO. It's like giving you a non-lethal in small doses poison for snake oil. Use too much and it can kill you, but the right amount might make you feel better.

Bhakua

04/19/2012 11:08 am

Apple will create its own search engine just to piss google off.

searchengineman

04/19/2012 03:16 pm

Barry, Thanks for confirming this was due to SERP downage was actually due to a Google screwup - Danny Sullivans post about the mislabeled domains - as parked domains (Like 1&1 domains) http://searchengineland.com/dropped-in-rankings-google-mistake-over-parked-domains-118979 There have been false alarms before. Because your post caused a panic in some circles. Searchengineman

Barry Schwartz

04/19/2012 03:18 pm

I cannot confirm anything. I reached out to Matt, he said it was because of the parked domain classifier. I updated my post as soon as he got back to me. I never said it was over optimization, I said it could be.

Deirdre B Pride

04/19/2012 09:38 pm

Hi this is my first time here and it wont be my last.  This place is like a SEO knowledge heaven.  I have a question for anyone if they can answer it.  My niche is celebrity news and gossip, how do I know that the search engines know my site as being a celebrity news and gossip site?  Hope it isn'y confusing.  Thanks!  Soooo followed and subscribed.

Jim

04/19/2012 11:08 pm

go to web-backlinks.com put in your site and some search terms you think you should show up for in your niche

Jim

04/19/2012 11:24 pm

From looking around the forums it seems there are still lots of sites affected by this parked page file mix up. While others have come back. So my guess is Matt is not telling the whole truth! You have to ask yourself can someone just overwrite a file in the production system of the one of the most powerful code shops on the planet? If they can then they need to hire some quality control people.

Ed Gil

04/20/2012 04:36 pm

My site got vanished as well and I haven't done any black hat SEO. The funny thing is that  happened while I was on Holidays. So got back and my site almost doesn't exist on earth:( It's upsetting as I cannot even be found by my Brand name. Have a read at this and will make you think http://www.seomoz.org/blog/6-changes-every-seo-should-make-before-the-over-optimization-penalty-hits-whiteboard-friday

KurtHenninger

04/20/2012 06:23 pm

Yep seems new, however, I see many many more completely non-sense results on page 1.  I'm talking completely blank pages, blogger blogs that are empty, abandoned domains that site owners deleted and left the "hello world" post on

Techzek

04/21/2012 05:02 am

Last Friday i lost 6k traffic out of 16k From Google .. Without any panda update.. I don't see any Recovery on my site..

Alain SEO Consultant BMC

04/21/2012 01:50 pm

We do like panda:-) Now waiting for sites to be punished for over seo penalty. Is this a on or off site seo penalty?

Tri Store

04/23/2012 07:26 am

google has launched a update in the garb of a mistake, there is certainly change in rankings of websites that I track in-spite of google saying its a mistake and they have rolled it back. So I will call this a hidden update, hidden behind a veil of parked domain classifier mistake.

Lelaki Kacak

04/23/2012 07:37 am

Interesting.. but some of my website drop ranking..

Shaun

04/23/2012 11:57 am

So what Matt says it is completely Google's mistake. And the consequence is affecting webmasters. LOL!

SEO Company India

04/23/2012 03:32 pm

Thanks for posting a useful update. I want to know after Panda 3.4, how Google will treat Nofollow links?  Many forums and blogs say that Google passes Nofollow Links value. Is this True?  

Tim Koster

04/23/2012 05:58 pm

We pioneered public records at pac-info.com in the 90's and moved the site to searchsystems.net in 2001.  We've been hit extremely hard by Panda-- again and again.  This morning our #1 ranking for public records at searchsystems.net got replaced by pac-info.com!  How does that make any sense?  How does a URL we 301d 12 years ago suddenly replace our main site?

Web Design Pakistan

04/24/2012 11:40 am

some of my website which was penalized by google is still not recovered 

Przemek Głogowski

04/24/2012 04:03 pm

The situation is unknown. Is this a bug google declines wrote about Matt Cutts?  Maybe it's not a bug just change the search algorithm?  It is not known. SEO (pozycjonowanie) will now be difficult.

Pozycjonowanie

04/24/2012 06:21 pm

seo is dead !!

LCSBiz

04/24/2012 08:12 pm

Don't be Big G's BITCH ! Many professionals are very upset with G. and its inconsiderate, anti trust actions. I thought the credibility would be increased coming from an actual source from the company and not matt cutts google+ profile. ( yes his name is not in capital letters ) It looks like G is getting spread pretty thin. Bing looks sexier every day  as "don't be evil" gets buried six feet under! Do not Forget !! Keep It Simple Stupid

Thos003

04/24/2012 11:19 pm

 Just an update. Sites that dropped that were not "over optimized" were restored fully. So I do believe the statement of it being a parked domain classification error, whether that error was triggered by some other update remains a question. 

hereiscoupon

04/25/2012 07:40 am

 SEO is Dead, What do next ?

FilipinoQuotes

04/25/2012 08:52 am

Whats up with the G? All my keywords rankings drops!

WebSeo_biz

04/25/2012 09:24 am

Mit Sicherheit ist SEO nicht tot!

Cheap Flights

04/25/2012 09:43 am

It is a major challenge for SEO's, it is very difficult to identify what went wrong. It is due to keyword density or over optimisation. I recommend keyword density to be 5 or less than it. Maintaining a blog update which gives fresh updates would be a good idea at this point. Rankings are still shuffling, it is better to wait than taking any other steps.. I hope it would turn normal in the coming days. If your domain is considered to be a parked domain then essential steps should be taken to make it realize.. Once we make it realize to Google, the rankings would appear soon. Cheers

WebSeo_biz

04/25/2012 09:55 am

 SEO wird es immer geben, wenn auch irgendwann nicht mehr Backlinks und Bookmarks reichen - ABER man will seine Seite auch in Zukunft = SEO! http://www.webseo.biz

Lanoapte

04/25/2012 10:56 am

Seo is kinda dead

Rehan Webpromotion

04/25/2012 11:44 am

warum du bist nicht sagt such machnine optimirung, der freund

Alexander224

04/26/2012 08:15 am

It is not de-indexed , if you want to know a secret only your first page from website is affected this is because google louse allot of informations about first original content , and now give rank to other people that copy your first page, check to see if your first page was  copied ,try to search for a sentence from your website , your website will not get listed or it is on last position listed , google just louse huge information , there is not panda update or any other update , just a catastrophic failure. all website that are gone from google are because "duplicate content problems" even if they are the original source of content !!!     Check for this and all from here will agree with me

Builder

04/26/2012 08:21 am

Many of my sites

Jeff

04/26/2012 08:22 am

Many of my niche sites have got ruined April 24th and lost 90% of traffic. I could easily forget G forever but I'll wait a couple of days to see what happens. It still makes me sick when I remember the October 2011 update though.

annasus

04/26/2012 10:57 am

You're mean Sayeed!  There are a lot of really great sites that were and a lot of really horrible sites that benefit. On the flip side... Alot of good sites are reaping the benefits and bad sites finally being penalized. I don't know which one you are because frankly I don't have the time, energy or interest to look at your site and make an intelligent comment about it. Perhaps if you didn't have the time to look at ours, you shouldn't have made a comment about our either. Next time, don't say anything if it's not going to be useful. Frankly, I think google is figuring things out as they go. We're part of the experiment. 

annasus

04/26/2012 11:06 am

WTH is your probelm? You're talking to a bunch of people who've lost their businesses.  Gawd, you're a real jerk! Don't claim to know how every niche faired if you don't know everything about every niche.  I don't think there's a single person in here who would argue that EVERYTHING was better before.  I think the whole point is that in google's attempt to make things "Better" they actually haven't. It's just bad in a different kind of bad. And it's really frustrating they're making changes without fully having the basics down.I.e. Where does content originate?Did their competitor buy this link?It's like rebuilding a house, tearing things apart and putting them back together without fully understanding the mechanics of electricity and heating.

anasus

04/26/2012 11:07 am

There must be a lot of people seeing this. Someone had to get our rankings :) It's nice to see you (who seems like a new person) benefit. Woo hoo!

Adnan Umer

04/26/2012 11:39 am

Many of our sites. :(

Alexandru Cotut Stefaneascu

04/26/2012 01:46 pm

"I saw a recent post where several sites were asking about their search rankings. The short explanation is that it turns out that our classifier for parked domains was reading from a couple files which mistakenly were empty. As a result, we classified some sites as parked when they weren't. I apologize for this; it looks like the issue is fixed now, and we'll look into how to prevent this from happening again.' How can you say it's fiexed? Have you took a look at the search results? Type "Make money online" or "python hosting" and you'll get the idea.

Rolec

04/26/2012 03:53 pm

All my sites from#1 to #450

Brian Greenberg

04/26/2012 10:26 pm

I personally think the main cause of this penalty is the focus on overuse of keyword anchor text http://www.seo-services.com/the-google-over-optimization-penalty/general/ If you have too high a percent of your incoming text links as your main keywords, you will be flagged by Google.

OKA Jewelry

04/26/2012 11:44 pm

My Two domains don't have any ranking now,,

Radko Aleksandrov

04/26/2012 11:54 pm

It’s been a little over one year when Google rolled out the first update in its search engine algorithms – better known as Google Panda, to fight ‘spam’ and to penalize websites with ‘thin’ or ‘low-quality’ content in order to provide better, quicker and more relevant search results to its users, the infamous Panda bandit has struck again, this time stated to affect ‘only’ 1.6% search queries, as tweeted by Google.

Lara

04/27/2012 03:07 am

oohhh shit all my keyword ranking drop downwards from #3 to #500 or more. What happened to G really? What SEO people will do ? what the new technique? Oh God really this G is ...

Sense of Money

04/27/2012 07:56 am

I hope they are working to fix their "webspam" update because as of now, a lot of websites that shouldn't be ranking are ranking for highly competitive keywords... sites with terrible content and just a whole bunch of backlinks.

Sales

04/27/2012 09:44 am

Do a search for " removals to Spain " the site in the top slot has .gov links etc placed before the updates, so Google is saying this is an old domain with good PR so we will score it despite the fact that the site has links like a Whitehouse.gov link  hmmmm what is a man and van company in Manchester got to do with the whitehouse or any .gov. So make some comments on a .gov site just for a link is OK then, what dross as this is still gaining links for the sake of gaining links. Basically there are sites at the top that have canned SEO before these updates and getting away with it nicely. It apears sites that have been over zealous with SEO in the last 6 months are the 1's that are getting hit regardless of good content and domain age.

tchat webcam gratuit rencontre

04/27/2012 01:44 pm

All my websites in the sandbox :( from #1 to 650 . Who say better?

Marian Farkas

04/27/2012 02:26 pm

Same case here... from 39 keywords on the fisrt page only 3 have left.... the rest disappeared... i hope it's because of what's happening and not due to overoptimalisation...

Guillermo López Velarde Gonzál

04/27/2012 11:43 pm

 i feel your pain bro: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/393/i-know-that-feel.jpg lol my site vanished from SERP's and it doesn't feel good that matt already said that it is fixed when everyday im getting my rankings a little more down than they were before D;

dao tao seo

04/28/2012 09:55 am

Do not know the true google new algorithm update or not that manysites to be dropped so much, even too long website affordablegoogle has changed

ModernKitchenMakeovers

04/28/2012 06:33 pm

My site has been hit quite badly, i was on the first page about half way down for a keyword that isn't very competitive at all. The closest i am to my original position is on page three with a blog section of my site

George

04/30/2012 02:17 pm

 What sandbox? Sandbox is all history...

George

04/30/2012 02:20 pm

 They fixed the bug but until the sites will get back to their previous ranks can take a while if it happens at all. To help the process, I recommend to start tweeting and social bookmarking your site again and again on as many different social sites and bookmarking sites you can find.

Harkunwar Singh Kochar

05/03/2012 02:29 pm

same with me buddy

Patel

05/04/2012 02:46 pm

Just type "website promotion India" and see the spam sites ranking on the top. (Keywords are well stuffed)  What is this? I keep bare minimum search terms on my pages the site is nowhere now. Who wins the spam sites or decent guys like US?

Zack

06/09/2012 12:41 pm

That's forget about SEO, algo changes and webmasters for a minute, that's focus on the search results Google is delivering, all I'm seen is Youtube, Amazon and Google Shopping a lot more then ever before, this is not the best experience for the user, as a lot of the small niche companies have disappeared. The rubbish Google is displaying will ultimately be the beginning of the end for Google if they don't clean up their act. For the last month my new home page has been Yahoo and NOT Google I think this Algo change is more a profit driven then anything else that will ultimately cost Google dearly if they keep making STUPID changes like this Panda Profit Update. In years to come all of you will be posting about other dominant search engines, my money is possibly Bing

riko

12/20/2012 09:15 am

No, it's real, so now i'm blacklisted!

riko

03/29/2013 02:31 pm

Make pizza?

Brandon Sander

05/03/2013 05:54 pm

I haven't done anything for SEO and my visitor page views dropped from 700-1000 to less than 100. Google is destabilizing the entire internet industry with their BS. Fire Matt Cutts!

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