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I’ve seen the same pattern for a while. It’s not just about having a short, clear headline, but also how distinct the angle actually is. When multiple publishers cover the same story with near-identical framing, Discover seems far less likely to surface all of them.
I’m genuinely curious why tests like this are even being conducted. After all, page content and user experience are what truly matter. Schema doesn’t replace contextual understanding—it facilitates explicit processing, making certain details more accessible. Issues like Rich Result errors aren’t tied to schema itself, but rather to how a tool chooses to present—or not present—information.
In my opinion, experiments like these stem from a fundamental misunderstanding of what schema is designed to do.
My site was never on Discover - I do guides -, but I can see a slight uptick starting on the 3rd. Also, improvements on CTR (3.5 - 4 instead of 2.5 - 3) but not on rankings. The last weeks in general have been quiet with minimal change.
I'm actually pretty glad that it wasn't me (you never know, could hit me tomorrow...) for a change. Google killed me in 2023, from 5000-7000 views a day, down to only 200 views a day, until all of a sudden, I seemed to be interesting again, starting with the last August core update. But I will never feel completely safe again with just a website. Good to have different options these days.
yes it's retarded to always makes changes, based on what? there should be ONE system ONE formula to follow!! it's like one week one thing is good and then no no no it's bad, now THIS applies, WHAAT? My point - fuckg always changing things for "better". instead set some sort of your own standard that you consider best in the longest run possible
ex. is it good to write in a first person voice or rather neutral? recently gemini retard told me it's NO good to write in a first person voice coz it sounds opinion based and not authoritative / as a FACT! So now you have to think - do I have to write in a first person voice LONG RUN or rather stick to fact-based writing - That's what fucking AI can do in a matter of minute ?? AI is fact based, humans have opinions so for me option A (write in first person voice) WINS a long run, and no matter how many times it gets updated, I will always stick to one thing rather than designing for their stupid moods.
My observation is the opposite. Google is adding more AIO in the SERPS, then pulls back for a day or two, then adds more. This might be related to Gemini 3 now powering powering AIO, giving Google greater confidence it can answer more queries.
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SEO tools also indicate a major increase in AIO since January 31. You may want to do some research into Google's digital fingerprinting. You can change your IP, browser, etc. but Google may still be able to identify you and not serve some features because of your intent (SEO research). The real question boils down to your traffic. Has your traffic improved, and held steady, to match your observations regarding AIO? Our Google traffic continues to decline.
my traffic mainly comes from discover, and yeah my site def got hit by the new update—even tho it’s supposed to target middle east content.
but from what i’ve seen, google’s only showing news articles with super short and clear titles now. like it’s all about the headline.
title decides everything
I have tested AI overviews in my niche with VPS today for various terms - and it looks like they are not displaying them as much. Rollback as I have said. I also noticed I appear above the AI overview sometimes too. Check your keywords with a VPS. I also see sometimes very large blocks of questions: You may ask, featured snippets or; what other people ask etc hogging the UX above the fold.
I have no trust in them. They always say something and do the exact opposite. Now they need full bio for the editors and they keep showing websites that do the exact opposite. i am starting to believe they make us do changes and then they laugh on how they do things worst. I believe you saw my exclusive this week on GSMArena. That should boost traffic. It didn't. I saw a drop
"Use page titles and headlines that capture the essence of the content." - Why would anyone not do this? I noticed for the first time that one of my sites is showing up in the news discovery. Thanks for sharing about this update Barry.
One thing that stands out to me in this update is how aggressively Discover seems to be reacting to above-the-fold UX and headline intent, not just content depth.
In a few cases I’ve looked at recently, the biggest Discover drops weren’t tied to publishing cadence or backlinks, but to obvious friction on mobile: heavy ads before content loads (hero section), sensational headlines that delay the payoff, and dense outbound linking right at the start of the article.
What’s interesting is that some of these sites didn’t change anything recently. Discover just seems far less tolerant of those patterns now.
Might be worth doing a simple mobile “first 5 seconds” gut check before assuming this is a pure quality or authority issue.
Google Discover Update Only in US? Hello from Europe! :-( https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c1319e6a11e63b547ce31dda7145c5736df77dde72bc20bc6b7873c300e04b6.jpg
Lol. So that's why my website, which isn't in English and has no English-speaking traffic, has lost 90% of its Discover traffic since February 2nd! What dumb liars! First, they took all the search traffic with their crap AI. And now Discover, too.
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Social media site for AI bot.... /facepalm
Apparently, the bots that join complain a lot about their masters.... Its more like Reddit than Facebook.
Not every site is about text. Mine isn't. How do you gauge its "deep expertise" if it is not about text, not about journalism, not about any people involved?
I would be interested to hear what you feel would be the best solution for you personally right now, if you were asked. Someone on youtube said that if you opt out of AI mode/AI overviews you risk your content being stolen by another website and then they are given the main reference (ranking) so what would be your solution to this whole situation if you could have one. e.g. a button so user can choose, ban it outright, licences, guaranteed visibility somehow or something else - what would your solution be?
I guess expertise in any subject, i.e tech news, journalism that speaks like a human perhaps and not slop? Same with sports etc.. Really if Google does what it says it's going to do then those that create real content will be rewarded. But this wording is the same from the September 2023 Helpful content update and ended up destroying the good stuff and floating the bad. Ever since it's been amazing record profits for Google as they gas light saying results have never been better. Now their AI has taken a big chunk out of chatgpt so they have confidence again. The threat is subsiding.
As soon as they started displaying your content without visiting your site that should have been all the warning you needed BUT some people cheer it. No click searches are awesome, what a bunch of tards. The known people in this industry are kinda wimpy no fight, no push back just rollover for the belly rub. At least the not to distant future will all be pay to anyway. no more I built my business on free traffic from Google crying
Aus based news site here covering GLOBAL news. 10M Discover clicks in 2025, with more than 80% coming from countries like the US, UK, Canada, and others, because I cover content from here (shock horror). Not that any of this matters, because I was wiped from Discover in the last core update, am down 90-95% in search, and wiped from News and every other part of the web. Hard to see that this will change anything.