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We know Google doesn't like it when you submit a new reconsideration request a day or two after you get a rejection response from your reconsideration request. They want to see you put effort in after you get that response.
So now, it seems Google is telling webmasters who get reconsideration request responses that they need to wait a "few weeks" before submitting a new one. If they don't listen, Google will ignore their submissions.
A Google Webmaster Help thread has one example of Darren Jamieson posting one for his site. The section that is new is:
Removing links takes time. Due to the large volume of requests we receive, and to give you a better chance of your next reconsideration request being successful, we won't review another request from this site for a few weeks from now. We recommend that you take the necessary time to remove unnatural backlinks to your site, and then file another reconsideration request.
It seems like more and more reconsideration request rejection replies have this message in them.
Hat tip to Jon Hogg from iprospect.co.uk for sending me this thread.
Forum discussion at Google Webmaster Help.
Image credit to BigStockPhoto for hourglass
Comments:
Marie Haynes
01/02/2014 01:45 pm
I just this moment tweeted the same thing. :) I think this is the new standard reply. I'm guessing that too many people are getting their example urls, disavowing those 3 and then reapplying for reconsideration right away. I think Google's trying to get the point across that there are many more links than just the examples that they give. I wish they would be more clear and instead of just listing two articles and a directory as examples, say, "We see several low quality article links and directory links that still need to be addressed similar to the following:"
Guest
01/02/2014 02:23 pm
Typo (If they don't list = listen)*
Barry Schwartz
01/02/2014 02:24 pm
thank you
Alexander Hemedinger
01/02/2014 02:26 pm
I agree. And this is good to know as well, no need to pull teeth if Google requires some time. This standard is totally better, even though our site was penalized recently...
Alex Stojkovic
01/02/2014 03:35 pm
Alexander... how badly were you effected by the penalization? I've never been penalized and they've put the fear of god in me. Especially with the recent RAP GENIUS events. In your estimates, how long do you figure you'll be back on track with rankings? I realize that some of the information may be confidential so please feel free to reach out to me at stojkovic@me.com. I ask out of genuine curiosity. Thank you for the feedback. Happy new year!
Alexander Hemedinger
01/02/2014 04:44 pm
Alex, It was our second time penalized due to bad back links that probably were an error with the anchor text being that they used the term, "Consolidated Credit" which was more of brand than a keyword. We handled the first issue internally from a vendor's doing. Now again we are penalized not only what we believe is the anchor text, but the websites are not really related to our industry with guest blogging. The first penalization took 3 months to get back on track. My advice is just be real careful where your linking and what's linking to you. (At this point our belief is that most vendors are still behind with the updates.... especially with Hummingbird.)
Adam Heaton
01/02/2014 04:53 pm
Received this for a few clients I'm currently working on recovering, which seemed to start a week or so before Christmas. I prefer this to be honest as I didn't think it was a good idea to just send another request a few days after a response, didn't look legitimate like a webmaster trying to recover should look.
Smarty
01/02/2014 07:12 pm
How long amazon will wait to submit reconsideration request after their 50 footer dofollow links spam?????
Smarty
01/02/2014 07:19 pm
if you not pray to google god 3 times per day and not sacrifice huge $$$ to google every day, google pets will penalize your site. Yeah, new google religion is born!!! Evil or God???
Brian Cox
01/02/2014 09:20 pm
I took the example URLs and searched for all instances of the content or anchor text to find more places it appeared on the web. I also used AHrefs anchor text report in order to find every page linking to me with similar anchor text to example URLs Google provided. My boss was adamant about responding ASAP, almost daily, but I was pretty sure Google's underlying concept of "showing the work" meant that quick turnarounds were not viewed positively.
Andy Kuiper - SEO Analyst
01/02/2014 09:58 pm
At least those with manual penalties can submit reconsider requests, non-manual (Penguin) penalties do not allow for reconsiderations anymore - just disavow.
Smarty
01/03/2014 08:53 am
1. panda updates once per 1-2 monthes 2. penguin updates once per 6 monthes? 3. google accept reconsideration after 4? weeks from previous request? BING/YAHOO win. they update your site almost immediately, for 1-2 days. Google become very slow and looks like in many times unable to recognize where is good natural and where is bad link. It just penalize all.
Deepak Joshi
01/03/2014 12:44 pm
A new approach for SEOs basically try practising out Social Media Optimization.... a process to meet the demands of Google
Patti Paz
01/03/2014 01:14 pm
If you were penalized TWICE, how long did it take you to get the first penality REMOVED, and how long afterwards was the 2nd penalty imposed?
Alexander Hemedinger
01/03/2014 02:54 pm
First penalty took around 3 months to fix internally. Took about 6 months to be penalized again afterwards.
Patti Paz
01/03/2014 03:04 pm
It took us 18 months and 6 request to get the penalty revoked, which was done about two weeks ago. But, still not ONE improvement in our SERPs.
Alexander Hemedinger
01/03/2014 03:47 pm
That's insane! And what a shame too. All that work.....
Ian Davis
01/03/2014 04:44 pm
Recently a customer of mine was hit with the manual action for having unnatural links. He had a previous SEO firm that had made about 1500 links for what I'll call Site#1. I had redirected an old site, Site#2, to Site#1. Site#2 had no links that didn't occur naturally but being around since 1999 it had accumulated 2000 links without any doings upon the site owner. Site#2 really was a sad site that had a business of another name doing the same thing that Site#1 pertained to. The client really had no knowledge of any of the problems nor penalties involved with link building our links as SEO black hat practices. After the redirection, he was kicked off Google and is suffering. Reconsideration requests are sent into space with no replies and it's been 3 weeks. It's just a shame. On a bright note he is rising well with BingHoo.
Alex Danilin
01/03/2014 07:10 pm
"we won't review another request from this site for a few weeks from now" doesn't mean "you have to wait for a few weeks to send new request". If you can do all the work with your links quicker, than you can send the request quicker. But than you'll have to wait for response
David DuVal
01/04/2014 06:22 pm
The greater lessen here is you must learn to build a business that doesn't need Google. A great example of such a business is Facebook. It involves real people and doesn't need search engines. I think we will see even more of a move in this direction as Google seems to be pushing people away in recent years (when it comes to search but not in all areas).
Smarty
01/05/2014 03:16 pm
2014 is year of bing/yahoo. google slowly losing ground. Their updates, quality of search results and updates speed is very slow. Low quality, they are against all the world without normal explanations (just mystical spam explanation for whitehat webmasters), they go against the logic - nobody can make money except google/members of internet coalition online, not penalize members of internet coalition for spam (double ethics, selective justice), etc.
Smarty
01/05/2014 03:17 pm
so, it easy. make a new facebook.
StevenLockey
01/06/2014 12:42 pm
If your previous rankings were based on the spammy links giving you credit you didn't deserve, then its no surprise that your rankings still didn't improve when the penalty was removed. I've seen a lot of sites like this that have been gaming the system for years. Most of them are relatively poor sites compared to the sites that they are trying to compete against.
Linda Jenkinson
01/10/2014 12:40 am
I totally agree. I gave up on Google a long time ago. If you don't promote your own business with measurable metrics, it's your fault if you don't succeed. The truth is that the best sites are run for the visitor, not for any search engine.
Spook SEO
01/31/2014 04:48 am
One of my friend receive a reply from Google fo ronly 5 days. Some of the comments says that they are still hanging for a reply from Google for almost 2 weeks... I don't what is/are the technical errors on this. What was I cited is the Page Rank (PR) of the website and its trust. I think Google are serving those sites with high PR first.
Alex
02/06/2014 12:55 pm
I never ever got a reply for a reconsideration request of disavow request. For my perspective it is all a game from Google to show the public that they "care" about webmasters. Only websites with really high traffic or custumors from Google Adwords are helped I think. Also when you get a penalty from Google (without intentions of blackhat techniques) I never get a message from Google what I did wrong so I can never fix it.
gavelect
03/20/2014 01:47 pm
Hi Barry, just wondering if you or any members of the community can shed any light on the issue im facing with my recent consideration request. In the short I received a rejection email within 18 hours of submitting??? This rejection email is a duplicate of the previous reconsideration request attempt highlighting the same links despite having one removed permanently and the other two disavowed? I have a theory but am looking for opinions. You can find more details on the thread I just posted on the Google Webmaster Help Forum. I have received no opinions to date :-( https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/L7TbEfKl5wM