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Every wonder what the analytics and impression charts look like when you recover from a Panda update?
Well, yesterday we confirmed a Panda update was pushed out, one with a softer touch, as Google said "more finely targeted." And with that, SEOs started sending me screen shots of their Analytics and Webmaster Tools.
One posted a screen capture of his Google Webmaster Tools impressions and click through analytics in WebmasterWorld:
Now that looks pretty!
Here are some charts from @AlanBleiweiss Google Analytics for his clients:
Hope you did well with the last Panda update.
Forum discussion at Twitter & WebmasterWorld.
Comments:
Mike Pannell (Dallas Realtor)
07/19/2013 01:17 pm
I guess that means my site was or has been affect by Panda.. I saw the same increase in webmaster tools for impressions.. They almost doubled starting Friday.. Now i didnt see the traffic increase like the other graphs but the impressions increased..
sestuff
07/19/2013 01:55 pm
I saw my site recover last year but it lasted only for 3 months. The recovery was a lot more dramatic than the recoveries in those screenshots so I guess I was fortunate. My traffic recovered at the time by about 40x but it started with a 10x recovery Sadly I am now where I was prior to the recovery. Will I ever see a recovery again? Don't know but I sometimes think I was better off without one because it's likely keeping me from letting the site go.
RevueHebergementWeb
07/19/2013 02:24 pm
No recovery whatsoever for my site. Even though I followed the recommendations from google webmaster forum. I have no clue what should I do :(
ethalon
07/19/2013 02:29 pm
Assuming that you have multiple sites and you can afford to have the site in question act as a test case: Do you have sites that are performing better in Google search? If so, maybe it would be interesting to see what kind of traffic you can acquire by focusing your ranking efforts on the affected site in other search engines? Perhaps getting a nice ranking in Yahoo, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc...would help to establish a brand (blog, retail, service directory, whatever your niche and service provided happens to be) and gain you some direct traffic and nice user interaction metrics. Just throwing the idea out there (not like you haven't thought of it before, I imagine you would have). Worst case you are still where you are now, best case you have steady traffic and maybe that love from the users you picked up on other SEs will bring you some SERP loving from Google as well (as well as some social references and links depending on what type of site it is).
Helio
07/19/2013 02:39 pm
My site didn't recover form Panda yet. Are there still hope?
ethalon
07/19/2013 02:40 pm
Did the recommendations involve hundreds upon hundreds of repeated keyword rich anchor text dofollow links spammed all over the web? If not, you aren't following those recommendations. Unless your site isn't the same as your Disqus name...
RevueHebergementWeb
07/19/2013 02:56 pm
Thanks ethalon, I'm cleaning these links. they are not that much buddy comparing to other sites. I have added nofollow to all forums signatures and will delete others. but what is weired is that google is telling me that there is no manual action for spamming. I'm still confused. By the way how did you figure out that there are hundereds of those links thanks ethaon appreciate your help
Seasonality
07/19/2013 03:06 pm
Seasonality!
Penchi
07/19/2013 03:07 pm
Exactly, what products are they for? could be just travel product.
ethalon
07/19/2013 03:15 pm
I just ran it quickly through OpenSiteExplorer over at moz. com I only took a really quick look but it seems like there are still dofollow forum signatures (to address what you stated above). Take a look at the report and I think you will be surprised how many anchor text links get picked up by that (relatively limited) link finding tool. I would look further into it ()and try to find yourself some generic www. yousite .whatever links) but I am at work and don't speak French (although most of your links are coming in from .com, English speaking sites). Also, an algorithmic penalty may be what is happening here, and not a manual action, which is why you are being told by Google that there is no manual action. If it is algorithmic, you may have to wait until the next Penguin refresh to see any movement (assuming you clear out and/or disavow as many of those spammy links/domains as you can before that refresh rolls around). There may be other issues, but that is what I always check first and the results stood out enough to bring it up with you. Hope this helps you get started.
RevueHebergementWeb
07/19/2013 03:54 pm
thanks a lot .. but what do you mean by and try to find yourself some generic www. yousite .whatever links thanks once again
ethalon
07/19/2013 03:58 pm
I meant that you have, based on what I could see, a lot of anchor text links and not very many links that simply link to your site using www. yoursite. com
alanbleiweiss
07/19/2013 05:11 pm
The four in my charts here are all different - none are seasonal sites - the top one was averaging 15,000 organic visits a day after they had been hit - and though this isn't a full recovery for them, it's significant. The others are smaller sites in different industries. Thanks for including my charts here Barry
alanbleiweiss
07/19/2013 05:12 pm
none of the four in my charts are seasonal - each is in a different industry
ethalon
07/19/2013 05:30 pm
I would be interested to see these same charts again in a month...and the month after that. Hope those recoveries stay and improve.
alanbleiweiss
07/19/2013 05:46 pm
Ethalon I am going to keep an eye on them and will be happy to update in a month
ethalon
07/19/2013 05:56 pm
Here is hoping Barry covers it again or that I remember to check this thread, ha.
JC
07/19/2013 09:14 pm
We had a site with the same chart. Even though the re-inclusion/disavow request got denied! Strange, but we'll take it. Seeing it on several sites.
Nick
07/19/2013 09:38 pm
something is weird about my blogspot blogs. Search queries are almost level but StatCounter shows 110-120% recovery since the initial fall in Panda.
sestuff
07/19/2013 10:58 pm
I have other sites that are doing very well in Google. I have established those sites as authority sites with a handful of articles. If I were to spend more time on those sites, I'd be doing very well. I just don't take failure very well so I can't give up on my pandalized site. I also know why the site is suffering. I can also get it to rank if I made changes but making those changes would sacrifice the user experience and it would likely cause a decrease in earnings as well. Therefore, I am trying to make subtle changes that would get me on Google's nice list. I also can't let it go because I spent too much time and money on it. It's also a lot more sophisticated than my competitors' sites but those competitors' sites are really old and the ones that aren't old have really good links which you can tell were acquired in a not so clean fashion. I did do well in Bing and Yahoo at one time but I made too many adjustments for Google that my rankings ended up suffering in those SEs. I can always get the traffic back if I want. I am a programmer so I was able to come up with ways to get traffic from other sources (I'd rather not get into detail). It's not like I don't know how to get traffic from other sources - it's actually what is keeping my site going for the time being. I just feel I am entitled to Google traffic. I dislike Google because you are supposed to be rewarded for being the best in your niche and I am being pounded on instead only because it doesn't fit the profile of what Google sees as a terrific site. In reality Google should just reward sites that people like and for those that believe Google is doing that - it's a bunch of crock. In many cases they do, but in my particular niche they don't.
sestuff
07/19/2013 11:20 pm
I actually agree with this guy for once. With a softened panda you are not out of the woods just yet. I'm not trying to knock anyones seo efforts with this comment and I hope the recoveries were due to seo efforts - I'm just expressing my opinion. I actually read about other recoveries by Alan so unlike many seos - he's actually good. I would just rather see a site recover without panda being softened. The softened algo also gave my site a slight boast in rankings but still not something I would get my hopes up for. When I saw the boast I said please don't let this be due to the softened panda update they were talking about.
RevueHebergementWeb
07/20/2013 04:06 am
Thanks ethalon. really appreciated. I have used dtox and send disavow file to google.Hopefully this will work best regards
SimonMc
07/20/2013 07:07 am
What does it mean if the impressions are up but the clicks are down by 20% and also the actual visitors to site are down.
Nikhil Chandra
07/20/2013 02:53 pm
This is once again inconclusive. It may also be due to some press release or a mention in authority and high traffic sites such as Yahoo or Huffington post. Only when we see data over a longer period of time can we know that it was really a recovery. Also we don't know if the same keywords referred the traffic or was it some other keyword.
Durant Imboden
07/20/2013 04:14 pm
Interesting--and from my perspective, disappointing. No change here. Our hour-by-hour traffic graphs for the last week or so are almost exactly like our hour-by-hour traffic graphics from two weeks earlier. FWIW: We lost a lot of traffic from Panda 1.0 onwards, but as far as I could tell, our rankings never tumbled--they fell just enough (e.g., out of the top three or from page 1 to page 2) to result in lower search clickthroughs, which in turn meant a significant drop in Google referrals. I'm not even sure that we were targeted by Panda for an algorithmic "penalty": It's entirely possible that Panda simply brought a new emphasis to things like site size over site age, UGC over in-depth articles, etc., at least for informational sites like ours. In other words, it's possible that the only way a site like ours can "recover" from Panda is for Panda to reward factors like authorship attribution, domain history, and (perhaps eventually) "AuthorRank" in addition to the signals it's been using to date.
Ann
07/20/2013 08:46 pm
i think google was so unprofessional when created this panda and penguine what this algorithms have lot of bugs and cannot recognize good articles, bad articles & normal links. it reason for some penalties. This "soft" update not bring anything new, at few sites traffic go down, at few at same level, no any positive changes. Google think what anybody who tries to make money in the internet is spammers. But google also using internet for money making purpose and not creating anything new (content). So google now at same level as spammer for me.
Durant Imboden
07/21/2013 02:49 am
It's likely that some sites gained, some lost, and some (like mine) saw no changes. In the past, Google has estimated the percentage of queries affected by Panda or Penguin updates, and the percentages have usually been fairly small: anywhere from the single to low double digits. Given the fact that we haven't heard too much screaming and teeth-gnashing about this update, it probably hasn't been very broad in scope (so far, at least).
ThatGuy
07/21/2013 08:34 am
I'd like to know what has been done to these sites during their down time that may have helped them regain a pulse.
Bas
07/21/2013 09:56 am
I have seen massive changes on some of my EMD domains. Some of my rankings completely disappeared 2 months ago and are now ranking back again. btw this is in google.nl
Peter
07/22/2013 01:29 pm
Big recoveries around the 13th for us. Our main site had fallen from top 3 on page 1 to the bottom of page 8. Now back to page 1. I should note that we have been doing lots of changes in the time it was languishing, but a very dramatic change up around the 13th.
ubound
07/22/2013 05:39 pm
That first graph is for my site. I didn't do anything because I believed I didn't do anything wrong to begin with. However there were many other "natural" changes. For example I switched to Wordpress, changed website design, added preferred domain prefix in webmaster tools, added breadcrumbs. It's important to mention that although I seem to completely recover my rankings the traffic is not like it used to be one year ago before I was hit.
hannybanny
07/22/2013 08:23 pm
panda recovery = only change domain. google not need we recover. it need all traffic to youtube, amazon and scroogle it.
Arun Jaiswal
07/23/2013 04:56 am
Completely Agree with you.. The above IMAGE Do not seems the Recovery..... As the DROP was not Confirmation of PANDA..
Anmol Andore
07/23/2013 05:00 am
weird
Rajesh
07/25/2013 10:39 am
My site got recovered and after 13th july it has more traffic and it really jumped.
Nicole
08/06/2013 11:41 am
Do you know if the softer panda was updated woldwide for foreign languages ad well?
Sana Flex
11/05/2013 09:29 am
Thank you for the suggestion. I have done all correct seo for my website. But still has gone down the rankings. How to find out whether it is affected by Panda?