Webmaster Complains About Panda But Scrapes Google Play Content

Jun 28, 2012 • 9:02 am | comments (16) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google Search Engine Optimization

Google Play ScrapI am not sure if this is funny or really sad. I spotted a thread at the Google Webmaster Help forums where a webmaster was asking how can he recover from being hit by the Panda algorithm.

So Google's John Mueller recommends he create "unique, compelling, and high-quality content." But then he goes on so John takes a deeper look and asks why is he stealing and scraping the content off Google Play when it is against the terms of service of Google Play.

John said:

Additionally, it looks like you may be scraping the content from Google Play -- are you aware of the terms of service there? For example on http://play.google.com/about/terms.html it mentions "You agree not to access (or attempt to access) Google Play by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Google, unless you have been specifically allowed to do so in a separate agreement with Google. You specifically agree not to access (or attempt to access) Google Play through any automated means (including use of scripts, crawlers, or similar technologies) (...)"

I don't know if I find this sad or funny.

(1) Panda is made to take sites that are just repurposing content without adding any value add.

(2) This guy is taking Google's own content to try to rank.

Forum discussion at Google Webmaster Help.

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06/28/2012 01:43 pm

It's not Sad or Funny, it's Stupid.


06/28/2012 01:54 pm

It's all Google's fault )

Stan Dorman

06/28/2012 01:55 pm

"Google is always right!!!" We don't have any options!

Nick Stamoulis

06/28/2012 02:07 pm

Don't start pointing fingers when you aren't sure it's not going to get turned back on you! Reading some of the responses on the forum is actually really entertaining.

Webstats Art

06/28/2012 03:00 pm

The rule is "Do not scrape" unless you are a major search engine


06/28/2012 04:12 pm

What we're seeing are everyday people who have no idea about intellectual property or copyright law who think that anything that is posted online is theirs for the taking. A few years back, one of our largest sites was 100% scraped and it was a living nightmare to rectify. When the issue was resolved, the idiot who stole our content said that he had no idea whatsoever how it happened. DUH. I sincerely hope he was unable to reproduce where the human race was concered.


06/28/2012 04:51 pm

Disallow the search engines using robots.txt and enjoy not having them "scrape" your content. Let me know how that works out.

Jaan Kanellis

06/28/2012 07:40 pm

Why help idiots like this? If he cant understand why he is being demoted F him and help others that are truly clueless about why their sites have been dinged. I have about 4 sites that are suffering and have no reason to be, yet nothing from John M on that. Ridiculous how they pick and choose to help spammers and idiots on Google forums.


06/28/2012 08:10 pm

Many websites have scraped the content off of my website, but I do not worry about it, because the Panda algorithm does not penalize you for that. If you think about it, most websites of decent quality have been scraped, so Google cannot penalize you for that without demoting all quality websites. Instead, it looks to see if any of the content on your website matches the content on Panda-trusted sites, such as the websites of news organizations, educational and government institutions, and the content in Google Books. If enough of your website matches content on Panda-trusted sites, then you will be penalized for a specific amount of time, even if you delete the offending content: http://goo.gl/b3bv5

Brad Dalton

06/29/2012 06:18 am

The guy who scraped content is an idiot and not worth mentioning. But so is John Mueller and the people he works with. The idiots that work at Google rank questions without any answers whatsoever in the top 3 search results. And they do this above real answers that solve problems because they rank big brands highly regardless of the content or lack of it. These big brands are protected by Google above smaller sites and anything they post ranks well because of the high Domain Authority of the site regardless of the quality of content. John Mueller isn't telling you the whole story and Google does NOTHING about scraped content unless you report it. Google also allows negative SEO and does nothing about it. They state its impossible for anyone to negatively influence rankings of another site but that's a blatant lie and it happens fairly often. The sooner more people support and use a high quality search engine like Bing, the better. I've seen many of those Google staff on video and can see right through them.


06/29/2012 11:22 am

John Mueller is one of the most intelligent, friendly, helpful, calm and measured people in SEO. He goes far beyond the call of duty to help people. Calling him an idiot only shows yourself up.


06/29/2012 11:44 am

So what's the problem ? Ban Google in all possible ways and be happy.

Faisal Qureshi

06/29/2012 01:16 pm

taking an idea from any website and generating a new content with a value adding purpose, is what one good SEO practice must opt. scraping sucks in my opinion!

Joe Youngblood

07/02/2012 07:56 pm

Wait a tick - Bing and other engines can't access Google's Play content to index for search without violating the TOS? Why wouldn't Google use noindex tags then?

Brad Dalton

07/03/2012 10:48 pm

Its like collateral damage. They wiped out heaps of spam links but caused huge damage to quality sites as well. The staff at Google expect webmasters to do their job for them because their algorithm is flawed. The truth is a multi billion dollar company can't work out how to index the most useful content. They judge it on links and domain authority as well as how popular the author or blog owner is. Not on how useful the content is. They index forum questions without any answers whatsoever in the top 3 results. No content whatsoever. Its pathetic and you know it. You're just too scared to speak out about it. Comments are about putting all your cards on the table and speaking your mind. Not sucking up all the time. Google are a reckless and irresponsible organization globally. They wouldn't dare wipe out a site like SEOmoz or Search Engine Land but they'll wipe out millions of the little guys because they know they can get away with it.

Brad Dalton

07/03/2012 10:54 pm

I give credit when credit is due. Mueller is an idiot. He plays games with people's livelihood.

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