Google February Update: Possibly A Google Panda Refresh?

Feb 13, 2014 • 8:41 am | comments (110) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates

Google Update BrewingThere is a tremendous amount of chatter going on about Google updating over the past couple days or so at WebmasterWorld.

On February 6th we had the Page Layout algorithm update but that didn't cause much of a fuss in the SEO forums. But something over the past couple days is.

Moderator, Travelin Cat, said:

I'm following about 25 client sites and all but 3 had a huge jump in traffic on the 11th. Some doubled their traffic. Hoping this is a trend going forward.

Also, these are all in the U.S., on the West Coast.

There are a lot of people who agree and are noticing changes between the 11th and today.

Mozcast shows heavy activity earlier on but not on the 11th. However, it has not updated today yet, so who knows. also shows a steady high volatility pattern. SERP Metrics is off the charts on February 12th and Algoroo also shows a lot of high activity.

Plus, we have a lot of chatter at WebmasterWorld and the other Google forums.

Have you noticed a change in rankings at Google on February 11th through 13th? Some are suspecting it might be the monthly Panda refresh.

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.

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02/13/2014 01:53 pm

Not sure if it is Panda, never had an issue with it really before but we saw a significant drop in a few accounts on the 10th

Barry Schwartz

02/13/2014 02:07 pm

No manual actions?

Stuart David

02/13/2014 02:32 pm

I would say 9th Feb changes started to crop up

Stuart David

02/13/2014 02:33 pm

Yeah we noticed fluctuations around 9th/10th

Prashant Verma

02/13/2014 03:03 pm

Yes something really happened so great, I can see huge changes in visitor.


02/13/2014 03:19 pm

Looking to be about a 40% jump for me. Hopefully it sticks.


02/13/2014 03:30 pm

looks like an analytics problem. My site said 1400 early this morning, now it says 2800 for yesterday

Sam Dogen

02/13/2014 03:32 pm

All about West Coast websites. San Francisco represent! :)

Sam Dogen

02/13/2014 03:33 pm

Why do you blur out the numbers?


02/13/2014 03:34 pm

Yea, just checked server side, and the numbers did not double. wishful thinking guys

Ray Blakney

02/13/2014 03:49 pm

Same here. On the 12th I noticed HUGE jump in traffic, but I thought it was just a fluke since I have been getting some major fluctuations due to the Winter Olympics (getting some very specific traffic that I don't normally get due to that). The odd thing is that I have not seen any major change in SERP. Just in traffic. Let's see if this continues... but I doubt it.

Christopher Meinck

02/13/2014 03:57 pm

Yesterday morning, Analytics showed a significant jump on the 11th, almost double usual traffic. Having tracked numbers throughout the 11th, I knew they were off. Later in the day, they were unfortunately corrected. Seeing no changes, other than the tease. Google is trolling me. Update: Again, it's showing incorrect data for yesterday.

Durant Imboden

02/13/2014 04:08 pm

Traffic for a couple of our main subtopics has been up sharply (and disproportionately) for a while now, but it's been up even more dramatically in the last couple of days. Maybe a "topic authority" signal is getting more emphasis than it did before?


02/13/2014 04:11 pm

I really think its a glitch in GA. I have a huge spike, but Adsense impressions and sales were flat day over day for the last 4 weeks.

Shane Kapil

02/13/2014 04:32 pm

i also notice something strange, i think there is something wrong with "google analytics" and "GWT"


02/13/2014 04:34 pm

My site could be affected by Valentine's Day coming up, so I'm not going to get too excited. I also had the glitch some people are mentioning a few days ago, but it only lasted an hour. AdSense however shows a large increase today in line with the increase in visitors. Usually on holidays, I see an increase in adsense with visitors, but a decrease in CTR. Today however is showing average CTR, which leads me to think that it's a natural increase. Fingers crossed!


02/13/2014 04:37 pm

I had the glitch on mine as well, but today is showing a legitimate increase for my sites. Could just be Valentine's Day though.

Steven Robinson

02/13/2014 04:53 pm

Yes , something is really cooking up, we had a kind of algorithmic penalty on last Dec 17th , the site came back to the position where it belonged to earlier. I worked on few extra h1 tags :)


02/13/2014 05:55 pm

Had the same showing in my analytics ... unfortunately it corrected itself ... I was hoping it wasn't an error :( It went up double which was what my traffic was at as of last May/13 before I got hit by the update in May/ June.


02/13/2014 06:08 pm

That was a depressing bubble to burst (way to troll my heart, Google). Traffic numbers from the 12th are back to normal again for us, across several accounts, which had doubled on that date previously. Glitch in the Analytics revamp perhaps?

osman musa

02/13/2014 06:09 pm

Its noon now and I have only 300 visitors so far compared to 1,000+ I normally do. Rank 0 sites are actually appearing on first page where I used to be and I am rank 3. I hope this is only temporary. I don't do any blackhat stuff either. No manual actions in webmaster tools.

osman musa

02/13/2014 06:45 pm

I also forgot to mention that I get natural backlinks from people sharing my content on forums and sites so what gives? I sure don't deserve this penalty. Adsense is now at only $3 at 2pm when it's normally at $10 at 2pm and $21 by midnight end of day.

osman musa

02/13/2014 06:49 pm

When the Adsense team figures out the reason people are not earning all of a sudden is due to Cutts team penalizing people then maybe they might start helping us lol as Google is hurting itsel when it hurts our traffic really the only ads on my site is all Google. I am an all Google boy.


02/13/2014 07:04 pm

My website it's also on the first page for some keywords as it were last year in sept 4'th when it went on page 7-8 in google search...and didn't recovered till today. good news :)

Texas SEO

02/13/2014 08:24 pm

It's the new year. This is When Google likes to give out gray hair to everybody in the SEO industry. Unless you do it right, then you're good to go. Your rankings will increase. Wait, did I just say something that makes sense? Actually if you've been around a while it is almost impossible to not see your rankings fluctuate. If they stay there for longer than a few days to a week hit the panic button!

osman musa

02/13/2014 08:37 pm

Yeah let's pray its just a short fluctuations cuz last time this happened to me was in August last year and I quickly recovered to normal.


02/13/2014 09:08 pm

There are so frequent updates by Google these days that really it doesn't matter that much now. Updates will keep coming and you will just have to keep updating yourself frequently.


02/13/2014 09:30 pm

My traffic has seen a drop the last few days, after it was up for a few weeks. Frankly, I wish google would just start being honest with people and say that any site that doesn't make Google money, buys keywords, etc. etc, will be listed 20 pages back. I mean the recent "page layout" penalty? Are you kidding me? What's next? Will google just decide for webmasters what their sites will look like? Make us buy a template from them and set up an escalating price for how much traffic they will let come to your site?


02/13/2014 10:56 pm

The same occurred for us. Wishful thinking, I guess.

Stuart McHenry

02/13/2014 11:47 pm

Me thinks its Panda. I noticed it as well. We know a company that had added crappy content in December. They lost rankings in early January. We rewrote all their content and a few days ago they are now back ranking decent in the SERPS. Monthly Panda refresh, IMO.


02/14/2014 01:43 am

unbelievable BS )

Stuart McHenry

02/14/2014 01:47 am

huh? not sure why you think that.


02/14/2014 01:56 am

You don't understand how does Google work. "crappy content in December" "lost rankings in early January" rewrote ... back in February It doesn't work like this.

Stuart McHenry

02/14/2014 02:03 am

They lost rankings in January. (about the 8th) There was an update around the 8th and 9th in Google the same time they lost rankings. (see link below) No link building for months. Only thing they did was add tons of crap content. A few days ago they recover. This sure seems like Panda to me. Again, we rewrote then entire sites content. That's it, nothing else and now the rankings are back.

Stuart McHenry

02/14/2014 02:08 am

If you have a different theory I'd love to hear it.


02/14/2014 02:18 am

Stuart, thousands of people re-wrote tons of content since the first Panda and finally went out of business. You can't be serious, thinking that you re-wrote better than others did ) It was said thousands of times already - with 500+ algo updates per year one can't be 100% sure what affects what. I'd suggest you to do the best job you can, instead of building useless theories.

Stuart McHenry

02/14/2014 02:29 am

haha. I agree with you that there are so many things at play it is sometimes hard to put a figure on it. Although, I'm just presenting the facts from my client's case. Plus, the fact that other people believe there have been Panda updates during these dates as well. I've also seen many websites that claimed to have rewritten content and have 1) forgot specific sections 2) the CMS made thin or duplicate pages 3) were hit by other algorithms as well. Anyway, based on our recommendations swift changes were made and now they are ranking again. Panda or the other 499 factors I think it was a good call.

osman musa

02/14/2014 04:26 am

Here is the analytics graph of my major drop. Google said Happy Valentines to me by dropping me. :(

Jitendra Vaswani

02/14/2014 05:16 am

I too noticed some traffic drop .... Panda refresh fr sure

Soni Sharma

02/14/2014 06:37 am

I have also noticed traffic changes upto 10%


02/14/2014 08:55 am

I got the same results.


02/14/2014 09:54 am

Rank 0? Surely you do not still take Page Rank as a ranking factor in the SERPs?


02/14/2014 10:09 am

Over the last three days at The Link Auditors, I have had increased phone and email enquiries from people thinking they have received a penalty as their domain has lost positions; some only one or two positions on the first page, whereas, some people have dropped four pages for their keyword searches. I have two of my own private domains in the SERPs for my own business and have not seen any movement in either. They’re both around page three for their main search terms. The Link Auditors has lost one position in the SERPs in the last three days for its main search term ‘link detox’, and is now down to 5th. Overall, I think the update rolled out this week has finished now and like most of Google’s updates, it has a mixed bag of results; some will complain and some will see returns for extra positions gained. What I have noticed from the clients complaining about losing positions is that they have been up to poor SEO for many years and there backlinks are causing the issue.

Silk manchester

02/14/2014 10:09 am

yes, some website serp down

osman musa

02/14/2014 10:20 am

Oh yeah I forgot pagerank no longer matters these days.


02/14/2014 11:49 am

Yes, It's panda. But didn't get any tweet form any official of Google.


02/14/2014 12:27 pm

Agree with you Stuart.


02/14/2014 12:32 pm

Stuart clearly has a better idea about Panda than you do. Its about overall site quality. Removing low-quality crap will help with Panda because the low-quality stuff drags the rest of the site down. Everything he has said makes sense and goes completely with both what Google have said and what other SEOs have experienced. Perhaps the problem here is you....


02/14/2014 12:33 pm

It hasn't for nearly 5 years.....

Mattew Guest

02/14/2014 12:40 pm

It's the MF Panda !!!! :( I hate it, hate it, Hate it! Since last march I've lost 50% of my traffic and now is back, each month with lower traffic. Another -10% yesterday. It does not have to be a mathematician to understand that this is my last year in business... :( From 1.2 Mil UV/day to 700 000 UV/day in one year slowly... Yeah, being a "Premium Adsense" publisher means only "put more ads", REALLY! Google is the boss, no communication, only: play nice! Phooey!

Patti Paz

02/14/2014 12:43 pm

How large was this website where you re-wrote ALL the content, and the SERPs began to improve. Most sites have hundreds of pages of content, which is quite a tasks to rewrite. Just wondering????

Patti Paz

02/14/2014 12:45 pm

Yea, that's why there was a Page Rank update last December. Why spend time, efforts, and energies updating something that doesn't matter any more?

Seo Specialists India

02/14/2014 03:38 pm

agree.. some pepole want to sale them-self through such type high traffic zone... but result always be ZERO...


02/14/2014 04:23 pm

As Matt Cutts said, that was an unplanned and accidental update, caused by an engineer running a different system he didn't think would trigger a global PR update. But hey, why bother to actually research anything when you can just talk c**p right Patti Paz?

Stuart McHenry

02/14/2014 04:53 pm

The website was less than 75 pages.

Paw Pet Directory

02/14/2014 05:03 pm

Hoping to get out of position 33 with keywords "Pet Directory", and jump down to page 2 after this update is finalized. I just started this directory and already getting a good spike of traffic since launch of December 2013. The Panda better do us well!


02/14/2014 05:20 pm

Penguin will be along shortly if you go overboard with the 'optimised' comment backlinks ;)

Springboard SEO

02/14/2014 07:07 pm

I'm dying for a Panda refresh, although I suspect they refresh it more often than they let on ;)


02/15/2014 01:13 am

After reading the comments below, i went and checked both my wordpress blogs with a slider on each one, and the slider with the pictures with alt text related to site, just took a nose dive in traffic to almost nothing, the other site with no alt text in the images is doing its normal traffic with no dips. So the website with the alt text in the slider might be the reason why in serpbooks, it just went from 1st page to 6th page.

osman musa

02/15/2014 02:02 am

My site uses all Alt tags so that explains why I dropped.


02/15/2014 03:58 am

Yes, sure. Stuart re-wrote content in January. Google bot immediately came to read it, found it fascinating and returned to top positions in February. This is how Google works. Good luck in your business )) P.S. Perhaps, if you can't cheat small businesses, selling your useless services ) I would be glad, if it would be so )

osman musa

02/15/2014 09:04 am

Here is why Adsense team probably should get in touch with Cutts team.

Tim Higgins

02/15/2014 11:37 pm

me dropped like a brick on the same day

Edward Chung

02/16/2014 09:27 am

What did you do to recover from the last sudden drop of traffic?

Edward Chung

02/16/2014 09:29 am

my site is believed to have algorithmic penalty now. what did you do to recover from the penalty last time?

Edward Chung

02/16/2014 09:33 am

My organic search traffic drops to almost zero so as the number of queries showing my sites in the GWT. Don't know what's going on...

osman musa

02/16/2014 09:49 am

I don't know what I did last August to recover from this crap but I swear to God i'm getting sick of this. Where is Yahoo and bing in all of this. Why is it most visitors come from Google? If I can get similar traffic fro other sites like Bing I would not worry about this penalty stuff that Google does.

osman musa

02/16/2014 01:20 pm

Ok people I did some good research on why I was penalized and I figured it is most likely due to me recently adding 2 sections on the bottom of my site. 1 is random links to other posts on my site that people should consider reading. The other is an rss feed that pulls a few headlines from major sites. I took these sections out and let's see if I recover again and this time I won't touch anything if I recover. Also Google pagespeed shows that I have styles.css blocking the other resources from loading first so it gave me a low score and I will fix that.

osman musa

02/16/2014 01:32 pm

I also noticed that some of my articles are still on top of first page at very top results and getting still same amount of high traffic as before but loads of other articles took the hit. I am beginning to think that Google does this purposely to scare or warn because if they wanted to, Google can kill my traffic all together.


02/16/2014 02:42 pm

Domain since 2003, got hit on 4th of September. Last month was back, with no special changes on the site content. Now It's back again... so 4th of September 2013 and 13 September is PANDA death...


02/17/2014 07:22 am

Matt Cutts explanation is no different from showbiz

Gaurav Srivastava

02/17/2014 07:55 am

@rustybrick Is there any official confirmation of Panda update from Google/Matt Cutts?


02/17/2014 09:19 am

How about, Panda refreshed, saw the quality to low-quality ratio was above it's threshold and de-panda'ed the website, thereby returning him to his previous position? Any reason why that wouldn't be possible? Its fits the exact pattern of many other sites we've seen recover after a Panda refresh..... But hey, keep believing what you want to believe. I'll keep testing against reality and studying what actually happens and trying to follow that. You know, the scientific method.

Barry Schwartz

02/17/2014 10:46 am


Gaurav Srivastava

02/17/2014 01:26 pm

OK. But it seems it was Panda as peoples are discussing about earlier keyword ranking downfall.

Vibhu Gauba

02/17/2014 02:12 pm

As far we understand google updates, this was not a very big one so yes most probably a small refresh for sure. We cannot say panda or penguin since google has stop declaring these updates. So its always going to be a guess work.


02/17/2014 02:30 pm

Panda sees nothing. It's not like Mr.Panda sits and reads) Panda makes decisions based on the visitors behavior. It's simply impossible to collect enough data from January to February for any decision. Furthermore, there are no such thing as "recovery from Panda". All of the websites, that announced sensational "recovery" sink later. Others, announced as recovery traffic fluctuations in the range of below 100 visitors per day. "Recovery" from Panda is possible after many years of hard, complex job, but I wouldn't call it "recovery from Panda". Just a good job done in general. SEOs need myth about Panda Recovery, because this is your main product to sell - the hope to recover. Small businesses give you last pennies just to get this hope. If you keep testing against reality, then you should know the true.


02/17/2014 02:40 pm

I suspect you're in porn, according to the number of daily visitors. Then no doubt you used a lot of shady tactics since 2003. It means Google has a lot of reasons to downgrade your website.


02/17/2014 02:44 pm

Panda doesn't test visitor behaviour at all..... There is nothing to suggest that it does at all. Thats your own imagination there. If you've got that little clue about the updates, please don't comment on them and give people the wrong ideas, its harmful to their business. Try to help people rather than inflicting your ideology on them.


02/17/2014 03:38 pm

Try to control your own imagination, because I didn't say "test". I said "collect" signals based on visitors behavior. If I would have little clue about updates, then I wouldn't own stable online business during more than 10 years. Problem of this industry is in guys like you are, who can't create anything valuable, except recovery myths to cheat small businesses.


02/17/2014 04:10 pm

I would say the problem is more people with little knowledge who think they know it all. If you haven't been hit by Panda then, how would you have a clue about it? You don't. It doesn't use user signals at all. Its algorithmically gathers page data and tries to calaculate for itself, WITHOUT looking at user stats, if a page is low or high quality. There has NEVER been a hint that Panda is reliant on or uses User data/stats in any form what-so-ever, regardless of what you might think. If it did, some of the false positives which were quite popular wouldn't have got caught up in Panda. Google employees talking about how it algorithmically calculates page value. Read it, then you can come back and apologise. Not anywhere does it talk about using or taking any account of user signals as part of Panda.


02/17/2014 04:51 pm

Again. Keep your imagination under control. I didn't say I wasn't hit by Panda. I was hit badly and dealt with it since the first Panda update. So, do you "test against reality" as you stated above or do you read theories, published by the guy who doesn't know difference between scroll event and click event ? See comments here : But anyway, his theory about Panda doesn't contradict my experience at all. Theory is vague and not precise, as probably any theory, but for sure it doesn't contradict me. However, it's too late to publish this theory in 2013. It would be valuable before the end of 2011. I built similar theory in Sept 2011. Most of my competitors are out of business already. I'm still in) I'd suggest you to read less theories, but do more practice. And I don't mean SEO practice) Then probably you will understand what a nonsense is to say in 2014 "gathers page data" ))


02/17/2014 05:01 pm

Did you read what I linked? No? Quotes from Matt Cutts and Amit Singhal, you know, the people in charge of the algorithm and actually know how its built and what it does, talking about what it does and how it does it. Not sure what anyone else has to do with that, nor even if it did what him mis-interpreting one thing would be relevant. Looks like you are really clutching at straws to try and back up your argument now..... I'd suggest you start talking about something you have more of a clue about, because your really starting to look silly next. I'm half expecting you to start proclaiming the world is flat.....


02/17/2014 05:09 pm

No, I will proclaim that guys like you, who doesn't create anything valuable online by themselves, but sell kind of miracle services, are cheaters, selling a hope. Take care )


02/17/2014 08:23 pm

No change other than a strange jump on February 3. Saturdays are always the lowest my site gets with Sunday not much better. This is the reason why these two days are always low.


02/17/2014 09:06 pm

Quite possible. I know that Matt said they were going to focus on porn with the next several updates.


02/17/2014 09:10 pm

That was on Valentines Day. I always see a drop on this day as I know others do. Apparently people are too busy romancing their BF, GF, spouse, etc. on that day to get online.


02/17/2014 09:15 pm

Cutts announced a few months ago that they were going after porn sites. I wonder if they thought your site was a porn site and not a legitimate massage service.

osman musa

02/17/2014 09:16 pm

Yeah it has nothing to do with romancing because even on Christmas day my traffic is still normal. This is clearly penalty and not due to Romancing. Not every person out there is romancing with their boyfriend or girlfriend on Valentines day you know.


02/17/2014 09:20 pm

You're wrong that people can't recover from Panda. My site has after a lot of changes. Panda is real and in some cases, simply moving a few ads lower on the page is enough to recover (although I had to do much more)

osman musa

02/17/2014 09:54 pm

Lucky you myself and a lot of other people were massacred on Valentines day. If you notice my graph and others it happened exactly on the 14th for me and a lot of other people on the 13th. The decline for me started on 13th. I bet you Google is remembering the real Valentines Day Massacre and not the Romantic one by massacring all of our traffic.

osman musa

02/17/2014 10:12 pm

Look at that, after his penalty he fell down to 50,000 up from 300,000 so he took a way worse hit than I did and I fell from 25,000 down to like 10,000 immpressions


02/17/2014 10:32 pm

I'm not wrong. You didn't recover from anything. 1000 visitors per day is not a traffic. You can't make any serious conclusions based on such amount of traffic. This is the problem with the guys like you are. You announce recovery, but the fact is - you didn't have traffic before and you don't have it now. However, SEOs are happy about statements like you do. They can sell their questionable services now. Who will pay attention to the fact, that you simply have no traffic )

David Osborne

02/17/2014 11:28 pm

This is most definitely the start of the next Penguin update.. Mark my words! I have seen this before where a lot of sites with shady/low quality links have a big jump in traffic and rankings for terms they are over optimized for, only to drop like a stone again at the end of the update.. It's the way the algorithm works and how Google which sites to penalise/slap.. Is Panda not supposed to be live in the main algorithm these days anyway people?


02/18/2014 01:25 pm

On webmaster tool I got a message for a domain that I do not administrator! What is interesting? Google try to access on ftp port to download robots.txt? Who is this crazy?


02/18/2014 01:42 pm

Google is getting lost!


02/18/2014 01:44 pm

I think that google have a virus on our search engine. Latest night i seen one result in two SERPs. Google slowly dying!


02/18/2014 03:52 pm

Ah right, so according to you, your opinion is more important than facts or reality. You can talk crap all you want, it doesn't make it true. You've clearly got an agenda, most likely from you been unable to recover from a penalty so you are convinced because you are incapable, its impossible. Thats not the case. You've already demonstrated you have no idea about the updates and have already been proven wrong about the Panda update. You might want to try actually researching a subject before trying to talk about it like an expert.


02/18/2014 06:35 pm

I never said it's impossible. This is the third time you can't keep your imagination under control and I don't see any more reason to have discussion with you. You read what you want to read, not what is written. Yes, I have no idea about anything. I just own big enough aged online business ) I also don't need to seek for customers. Those, who will read this thread and will be able to make their own decision - to buy or not to buy services from you )


02/18/2014 07:14 pm

What I see: DTOX (Link Detox Tool) penalized :(


02/19/2014 09:24 am

I would agree with you, anyone offering a 'micacle cure' for panda is a scam. We don't offer anything like that, in-fact almost all our SEO work is from established clients who came to us first for other work. I can't actually remember the last SEO job we did for a client who wasn't already with us for other services. I don't disagree that recovering from Panda is a lot of work, but I'm afraid what you have said on this thread is just plain wrong, based on groundless assumptions, and you refuse to back down after been proven wrong. Panda is a purely algorithmic test, it does not require visitor metrics to run. Its entirely possible to recover 1-day after putting the fix to Panda live, IF that day is lucky enough to correspond to a Panda update which Matt Cutt's has said run regularly now.

Tim Higgins

02/23/2014 08:06 pm

could be - I might look into that - tks


02/25/2014 08:58 pm

what I do with my site ?? It's dropped from no.1 in google to no.88 in 13 february 2014 can I return my site to no.1 again

Ravi Malhotra

02/26/2014 05:13 am

On 11th I saw a little up in my rankings till 13th Feb afterwards it just dropped drastically. I can see the same on 22nd for 3 of my more domains.


02/26/2014 07:03 pm



02/28/2014 01:33 pm

did someone noticed any change today in rankings? my site disappeared from google first page. another panda update ? :|


03/01/2014 08:41 am

yeah, one of my blog keywords is also disappeared on February 28, 2014. Anybody else face a same problem?. thanx

Tim Higgins

03/02/2014 01:57 am

Mine was due to broken links - I found about 40 ( a theme change caused it) I guess tha the last update was a "page quality" update ?


03/10/2014 02:01 pm

No porn, nothing illegal or unethical. I'm back on 28 February and down again 8 March... No ideae what's hapening


07/17/2014 09:45 pm

Yes, this update TOTALLY wiped out my traffic. They called this one the "Movie Update" since it wiped out R rated movie sites. So what did Google do? They went back and removed the code that hurt the movie sites. It's nice to see Google caring about these rich heavy traffic sites. Now what about the rest of us? Google is the most evil company on the planet. Don't use ANY of their products!

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