Google Panda Recovery Overnight

Dec 7, 2011 • 8:35 am | comments (19) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google Search Engine Optimization
 

PandaA WebmasterWorld thread has a post from an SEO who has been a WebmasterWorld member since 2006 claiming he has recovered from the Google Panda smack down over night.

How did he do it? He moved some of the pandalized content from that old site to a new one. He said since doing so, in 24 hours, he has noticed a 300% increase in traffic.

He wrote:

I'd heard quite a bit about getting out from under Panda just by moving sub-domains or pages so I finally gave it a try. I moved a half dozen pages that were drawing a few hundred visitors a day from Google on my Pandalized (down 80%) site to my Panda pleased (up over 300%) site this weekend.

It took a little over 24 hours for Google to start indexing the pages on the new site so I'm not sure if Monday results represent a full day. Of the half dozen pages, three were slightly above their pre-Panda level (year-over-year) on Monday, and three were around 20% under. The average Google traffic for the six pages Monday was around 250 visitors each.

So now the waiting begins for the next Panda cycle. I'm expecting one of three things to happen, so it will probably be the fourth.

What he should expect that when the Panda algorithm runs, that if the content he moved over is the reason the old site downgraded in rankings, that the new site will be hit also. And maybe, if the old site no longer has that content, the old site might increase in rankings. Why? Well, the pandalized content may have hurt the rest of the site and by moving it off the main site, it may improve the ranking of the other content on the site.

Your thoughts?

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Comments:

Erik

12/07/2011 02:14 pm

Exactly, on the next Panda update the new subdomain will be reanalyzed for Panda, and if the subdomain now falls below the Panda threshold because of the moved content it will be Pandalized. My guess is the next update will be sometime between Dec. 15 and Jan 1. Merry Xmas, you've been hit by Panda.

Nick Stamoulis

12/07/2011 03:13 pm

This strategy may work, if in fact you know which content on the site was penalized and move it.  It could be a lot of trial and error, but one site may be able to rank well eventually.  

Marc Perez

12/07/2011 05:04 pm

I see that you are using site, sub-domain, page interchangeably,  could you specify if you moved the content from a sub-domain to a different sub-domain, or from a site a.com to site b.com?

Rxbbx

12/07/2011 05:54 pm

@ Erik... think so too... stupid to move his content. He should solve the problems in stead of moving stuff.

Amir

12/07/2011 06:39 pm

Moving, Moving..Yeah One one hand, I am not going to do that even if this is the exit door.  What if Google changes his algo again? Are we gamblers?  On the other hand, what is the point of having good content not getting the right publicity out there?

Geo

12/07/2011 06:41 pm

I've seen several such "recoveries" being claimed and shortly after - bam, the new domain is hit and there we go again... Nothing unusual here, move on ...

SEO Best Tips

12/07/2011 09:24 pm

Yah it may be a temporary fix unless he solves the "other" issues going on with the content.  If you had the ability to make money online in whatever niche or market, than you can do it again, with better quality/technique to surpass Panda.

joshua

12/08/2011 12:11 am

if it is dup content then new site will get pandalized - if it was just bad bounce rate then new site may be a better audience for that content and thus no penalty if bounce is low

Local Seo Optimization

12/08/2011 12:32 pm

Google Panda can hit any time. They only way to save our sites is to put a good quality content, which will not look like a spam. The idea for Google Panda is to give readers good quality content & information when they search for something. Quality content is very important. Shortcuts may give sites a short term bust, but for long term, these short cuts may not work.

Mark Biernat

12/08/2011 01:36 pm

I think a better idea is to just delete bad content or beef it up.  I have delete scores of pages and it had no negative effect on traffic, maybe positive. If you can logically group and consolidate post this might help. Or expand on the ones that are not totally lame.

Bill Sebald

12/08/2011 03:29 pm

There are more factors that go into the Panda filter than "bad content".  If you move the content to a new domain, where other on and off page variables are different, the "bad content" could escape the next pulse of Panda, and survive.   I've done this for two of my personal sites - in one case it worked, and continues to work on a new, healthy legacy domain.  But, in the other case the rankings plummeted shortly after the migration.  In this second case the site was kind of crappy in terms of links, DA, and content on other pages. Here's my advice from my experience: If you're a legit site, with a legit brand, on a domain with equity, clean your stuff up.  If you're content is throw away, MFA type stuff, try moving it.  If it fails, move it back and clean it.  It's pretty clear you don't ever get perm banned from Google via Panda.   In 11 years of doing SEO, I usually found that this worked for a lot of the other Google filters, so I'm not surprised it worked for Panda.

Leilamorris

12/08/2011 05:08 pm

I have cleaned up a lot of the content on my site with no results. What exactly is bad content?

Military Bases

12/09/2011 11:17 am

Luckily for me I haven't experienced any problems with Panda update as I am usually writing 500-1000 word articles, so there are only small chance that my site can get penalized because of content.  But what were wrong with those blog posts, there were really short, duplicate or something else?

Jane

12/09/2011 02:27 pm

The content will be Pandalized again. This happened to me several times on a site I run about the iPhone. To combat Panda, I segmented different subjects into subdomains and instantly the pre-Panda traffic returned. It seemed like a miracle...until the next Panda crawl came through and laid waste to the traffic.  The site I run is 100% original content. But even when I segmented out even what Google Analytics was telling was  the top quality content, the Panda penalty still hit. Google's advice to "just write quality content" is a total red herring. Search rankings start with domain authority, and if you look at their "secret" Google Search Quality guidelines (available on the net, btw), you'll see major brands (such as Google itself) get an automatic +1 in search results. If you are just a person with a blog, or even a small company, it's unlikely you will be able build up the brand authority of these Fortune 500 websites. It's all about this new global focus on the idea of media and "expert," meaning, what info do the big boys like Google want the world to hear? Some opinion from Joe Schmo about climate change, or a climate-change expert. The only way to guarantee expert opinion is to establish who is an expert. This is a far different approach than the democratic (but deeply flawed) link authority system of who gets the most links, attention, etc. This new approach is saying, Google has a lot of authority for whatever reason, therefore Google's opinion, service, product, news, etc should show up higher in search results than the exact same one from Joe Schmo

Poster

12/10/2011 04:42 pm

After Cult of Mac and Daniweb lost ranking following Panda only to regained top positions after contacting Google, observers started to speculate that Google has a white list. I wonder if "influential" i.e. well financed companies and individuals have a direct line to Google requesting that info from sites they disagree with or compete with be pushed down in the SERPs. Google has yet to address this question.

Neighbors Marketing

12/12/2011 05:05 pm

I have done the same thing as the OP, with several of my sites.  On one, Pre-Panda, I had a couple dozen targeted keywords, all page one.  After Panda, everything moved to page 5 and 6.  There was a domain I was waiting to become available and it finally did.  I migrated all my data to this new domain, then did a 301 re-direct just to make sure every page would get re-indexed.  Over night, 75% of my targeted keywords appeared back on page one.  I thought it might have just been a sandbox affect, but my site has remained on page one for the last 5-6 months.  Even after numerous Panda updates, I thought for sure my site would get hit.  Since it is an online retail site, the content is light, directly form the vendor and duplicated all over the web.  Still nothing. This has worked with 3 other of my sites.  I have another 5 e-commerce sites, 4 of which were penalized.  I am strongly thinking of move them to new domains too. Will this continue to work, who knows . . . only time will tell.

Los angeles injury attorney

12/20/2011 10:12 pm

A Big hand to that person! Well, it was really a great thing to do to recover from this kind of situation. As time goes by Google gets tougher and tougher in collating datas

Mango Africano

02/13/2012 04:50 pm

Quality content and useful plus clear navigation is one of the main factor indeed.

Reshav Singh

06/06/2012 11:02 am

I recovered 100% in just 30 days without moving to new domain

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