Panda 3.8 Live: Google Update After Thursday June 21st

Jun 25, 2012 • 8:54 am | comments (32) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates

Google Update BrewingOn June 19th we reported chatter around a possible Google update, Google shot me down on those rumors.

Confirmed There was a Google update, specifically Panda.

Now, I am hearing more rumors of a Google update underway as late as Thursday night, June 21st.

One webmaster confirmed the ranking changes by saying:

I saw this drop yesterday too. After a robust start to a Thursday, our traffic dropped off and hasn't returned now today. In fact, I'm seeing significantly worse traffic than usual today.

But there are several webmasters talking about it. I am not sure if the chatter is high enough to signify a real Google update. Did you notice any changes over the weekend?

We even have one webmaster claiming a Penguin recovery over the weekend.

What do you think?

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld & Google+.

Confirmed: There was a Panda update, Google tweeted this:

Previous story: What's The Difference Between Google Penguin vs Unnatural Links?


Yaniv Harush

06/25/2012 01:05 pm

i had a major ranking drop in the night between the 19th and 20th of June. from 27,000 organic traffic entrees to 4000...without a change until now. i also noticed that i got a boost of incoming links few days before which i'm still trying to figure out the source of them.


06/25/2012 01:12 pm

I've seen between a 20-30% jump on three different sites.. All three had been panda slapped at one point and one penguin slapped... Now fully recovered


06/25/2012 02:57 pm

did u do anything after the slaps to any of those 3 sites?

Mark Beavan

06/25/2012 04:05 pm

Only strange thing I noticed was that google has started to use our DMOZ description for our home page rather than the meta desc... On another page it has used just some random text from the page. Most deeper pages are fine. But does seem to have affected CTR as the desc in DMOZ is rubbish and about 3-4 years out of date. We got slightly knocked by pengiun in rankings but traffic is still steady even though we dropped a few places for some keywords. Have you heard of that happening before?

Dave Winget

06/25/2012 04:09 pm

I saw a major keyword move from #3 to 12... After sitting at #3 from Saturday early morning to Sunday late evening... granted... it popped to 3 from 34.... But something's up for sure.


06/25/2012 04:09 pm

On two of them, yes. On the Penguin+Panda hit site I cleaned up a bunch of links, removed a lot of thin content and enhanced the usability which resulted in a 14% increase in pages per visit, 24% increase in time on site and a 5% lower bounce rate from organic traffic. On one of the Panda hit sites I did nothing. And on the third Panda hit site I cleaned up a lot of thin content after it was initially hit in October. Had fully recovered until the most recent update (June 8th), when it took another 30% dive. After the June 8th update, I immediately enhanced the usability, which has resulted in a 18.5% increase in pages/visit, 53% increase in time on site, and 6% lower bounce rate from organic traffic.


06/25/2012 04:55 pm

Hey Barry, Have you heard of any fluctuations in rankings today?


06/25/2012 06:11 pm

Ranking and traffic drop on the weekend. About 15% traffic lost.

Jaan Kanellis

06/25/2012 07:30 pm

Barry I thank you for coverage on all of this, but these rumors of updates are getting crazy. It seems every other day their is someone calling out an update based on ranking changes. Seriously ranking changes?

Barry Schwartz

06/25/2012 07:37 pm

If you only saw how much I skipped. :)


06/25/2012 07:59 pm

@facebook-281000628:disqus I have a site that's been showing the dmoz description for the last 5 years. Doesn't matter what I do in the meta, the dmoz trumps it. It's an out of date description for me as well

Dr. Pete

06/25/2012 09:31 pm

I saw a small spike on 6/21, but it followed large-scale changes from 6/15-6/19. I don't know what Google is doing lately. This past weekend was pretty quite, all things considered, but the two previous weekends were nuts.


06/25/2012 09:34 pm

I had EXACTLY the same issue.. Had about 25.000 SE traffic daily (for the past 6 years) but a 75% drop on the 20th 21th. On 2 sites. A few days before the drop i was getting loads of traffic from sources i never had dealt with in the past or did any business with.. With the SE drop that unrecognized traffic stopped too.


06/25/2012 09:59 pm

Mark, this should help: I know because I saw the NOODP tage earlier this year . . .

Barry Schwartz

06/25/2012 10:09 pm

Well, there was an update. Just updated the post. Will post something new tomorrow if I get more details.

Webstats Art

06/25/2012 10:52 pm

One of my sites is ranking number 2 for keywords that exist in anchor text link from a Page Rank 7 government site. woohoo.. Backlinks matter, don't they?


06/26/2012 01:53 am

have you tried a noodp meta tag?

Vijay Kaushik

06/26/2012 04:47 am

Hi Mark You can use noodp meta tag for stop DMOZ description.

Vijay Kaushik

06/26/2012 04:57 am

Thanks for sharing, That's the good news for all webmasters those try to recover from Panda and Penguin hit.


06/26/2012 05:20 am

Hi Barry Schwartz, Thanks for sharing this information ! Google changes its algorithms by panda or penguin update in every month or so.The last update was on June 8th before this one.Google may have felt they wanted a refresh early. Thanks again Regards

Peter Alex Leigh

06/26/2012 10:18 am

Roll on Penguin update! :)


06/26/2012 11:11 am

Yes true there is an update, but it had happend on june 21st, however my traffic gone down that day and yesterday and today it rossed high. So there is a difference in terms of datacenters. I am targeting searches in UK.


06/26/2012 11:12 am

NO no don't roll on with penguin damn scarry :) penguin plz be inside ur cube


06/26/2012 12:44 pm

Nothing here good or bad.

Mark Beavan

06/26/2012 03:37 pm

Thanks guys were are already implementing this in our next release still stuck on the other one though showing random text from the page rather than meta desc. its showing data, H1 and phone number then subscribe very weird


06/27/2012 08:08 am

One of our major competitor was hit bad by Panda after the June 21. They are number 1 for how many years now they can't be found in first 50 search result. Hmmp. I guess luck is on our way?


06/27/2012 02:52 pm

We had similar problem - between the 19th and 20th. 19th was strong for organic from Google and Wednesday dropped by 75%. not showing up in top 50 pages - that used to show up between 10th and 25th . Problem still there.. Any suggestions? We had alot of duplicate descriptions that we've corrected or eliminated. and discovered two sentences that were hidden text. - also eliminated Also looked and saw that webmaster tools is showing duplicates for pages that we eliminated a long time ago...saying current page and old page are duplicates of each other.


06/28/2012 11:00 am

ys my one keyword also drop from 23 position to 43 position.


06/28/2012 11:02 am

ys i got my site inner pages pr goes to n/a from 0 pr.

John Michaels

07/01/2012 09:07 pm

My organic from google dropped %50 starting wed june 25. What can I do to fix this?

Der Pobman

07/17/2012 09:42 pm

Why is it they always say "1% of queries" and somehow I am in that 1% each and every time.


11/09/2012 08:47 am

One of the sites that I work for have a huge ranking drop now I have 1.5k google traffic from 10k. The site usually have traffic from 4000 keywords yestarday 600. Today seems to be the same.

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