Is Google Search Updating? January 8th & 9th

Jan 9, 2014 • 8:53 am | comments (250) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates

google updating logoI am seeing early signs of a possible Google update underway today. The WebmasterWorld thread started to get some chatter yesterday of people noticing shifts in the search results.

One WebmasterWorld senior member said, "Jez, something without doubt is happening. We've seen all the tell tale signs."

Most of the tools that track these updates are not currently updated for today. DigitalPoint (see sidebar) and Algoroo are and show signs of an update:

Algoroo Jan 8th DigitalPoint Jan 8th

Another WebmasterWorld member said:

Is something brewing? I am getting a lot of foreign visitors hitting my site. Usually a sign of something in my recent experience. We are probably due a Penguin refresh perhaps.

Have you noticed major changes in your rankings and Google referrals yesterday?

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.

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01/09/2014 02:11 pm

Nothing happening.

Durant Imboden

01/09/2014 02:13 pm

Nothing obvious here on the Google front, although I'm seeing less of a dramatic increase in Google traffic than I am in traffic from most other sources, including Bing/Yahoo. (For our topic, there's always a surge in traffic after New Year's.).

Subhash Prajapati

01/09/2014 02:25 pm

Did not see any update!

Brian Cox

01/09/2014 02:35 pm

Morning Barry, just an fyi - typo in the title tag of this article


01/09/2014 02:36 pm

Seen a couple of my sites that got stuck on page 2 move back up to page 1

Barry Schwartz

01/09/2014 02:38 pm

fixed, thanks

Jared Carrizales

01/09/2014 02:40 pm

Yup, saw an uptick in rankings and traffic yesterday.

Attila Szuhi

01/09/2014 02:48 pm

Well, the hungarian Google Algorithm Watcher also shows algo updates.

Stuart David

01/09/2014 02:55 pm

See uptick prior, 2nd until 7th then late on the 8th about 10% drop off

Daniel Sanchez

01/09/2014 02:59 pm

I noticed an increase of traffic to my sites yesterday.


01/09/2014 03:03 pm

Are you sure you fixed it Barry? I mean what do 'Sings of Potential Google Update' sound like?

Barry Schwartz

01/09/2014 03:06 pm



01/09/2014 03:23 pm

Sorted now ;)


01/09/2014 04:03 pm

I noticed this while doing some research but I'm not sure if it's a sign of a penalty or a google update:

Mohnesh Kohli

01/09/2014 04:31 pm

I also noticed increase in traffic on few of my websites


01/09/2014 05:22 pm

I run the SEO on a UK national "cladding cleaning" website. Results have recently tanked and I lost the client today. However I tried to explain that G is broken and if you type in "cladding cleaning TARGET AREA" The only results you get are "window" cleaners, cladding is a specific metal sheet and nothing to do with Glass. G highlights the word WINDOW as it seems to think its the same. Anyway to alert G about this error, its been since hummingbird?


01/09/2014 05:44 pm

There's definitely an update coming, my site's organic traffic reached high levels compared to any other day. Today it seems like there's barely any Google traffic and on the same searches now I see a lot of social activity Google + showing up as well. A really good site that's FREE that i came across is It will tell you about the updates Google is making and also show you if your site has been positive effected or negative from algorithm updates. Keeping my fingers crossed this improves our rankings on our website since it was hit with hummingbird we removed over 1000+ backlinks in hope to get our SERps back. Goodluck to all


01/09/2014 05:54 pm

I haven't seen any huge changes overall, but a couple of our sites that have many pages optimized for local queries had a good bump. Anybody else experience something similar?


01/09/2014 06:17 pm

I guess somethings up! A few more peeps talking about it here as well


01/09/2014 06:23 pm

Huge changes in one of my sites!!

Random Guy

01/09/2014 07:43 pm

Good or bad?

Random Guy

01/09/2014 07:46 pm

It seems all the smaller guys got some traffic boost, so the question is if the big players have lost some ranking?


01/09/2014 08:48 pm

Did you read the post? some guy got penalized and the act like a horde


01/09/2014 09:03 pm

Sorry Barry but I've researched for something solid and nothing out there. I checked many websites and nothing special is going on. The post you are referring to started by a guy that didn't even bother to check if he got penalized. cheating headlines again. why are you even considering this algoroo as a legitimate example? The other tools out there are much more reliable and consistent.


01/09/2014 09:17 pm

I agree. the red roo looks suspicious to me, this post reminds me FB suggested posts in my wall ;)

Barry Schwartz

01/09/2014 09:49 pm

The other tools are actually not that reliable. Too many things can throw them off. So I prefer to use "chatter" over tools for this.


01/09/2014 10:08 pm

I'm seeing (positive) movement in Google US traffic today and yesterday.

Ashley Stanf

01/09/2014 10:27 pm

LOL at everyone saying "I got a traffic boost". Now Google will look at it and be like "Ok Guys, whatever you did, do the opposite", so a week later you'll see the comments "my site disappeared"

Fede Einhorn

01/09/2014 11:09 pm

I am seeing changes, big ones. New sites being ranked higher that older with far more authority.

Rick Noel, eBiz ROI, Inc.

01/10/2014 12:44 am

Some additional (welcome) traffic on our business site the last few days. Based on comments here, seems most are gaining, but at whose expense?


01/10/2014 02:20 am

I can relate. I'm seeing same changes on my new sites.

Steven Robinson

01/10/2014 04:21 am

Well! my site got hit with some kind of penalty last oct and i lost ranking for many of my keywords and even jumped to page 5. Glad to see they are back where they were previously. Was going through Barry's post yesterday night and with this happening today i can confirm something is really really happening out there. :) Sorry for my english!!

El Capitain

01/10/2014 05:51 am

Google has been crawling all of my pages, over the past few days. I believe Panda is refreshing.

Jitendra Vaswani

01/10/2014 05:59 am

Get ready for another Google update

Toby Crabtree

01/10/2014 06:23 am

I hope with this update,the ranking won't get much affected.

Kiran Chandra

01/10/2014 06:28 am

I Have Already BREAKED this update , They did nothing but ranked AUTHORITY Sites much higher and newer websites much lower. Previously google used to show up local listing websites like yelp , grotal on first pages mostly,...Now they have removed few of them and gave chance to HIGH AUTHORITY Websites on front pages !!! THAT'S IT ANALYSIS DONE BY TRAFFIKON.COM

Daniel Savov

01/10/2014 07:39 am

Did someone of you noticed a delay in Google indexing new pages?


01/10/2014 09:07 am

Please give more information about this analysis you have done. Statistics and examples please.

Jonathan Hatton

01/10/2014 09:13 am

that's strange, probably manual action in my opinion.


01/10/2014 09:16 am

I'm tracking US websites for my clients and this tool owned by an Australian company that probably checks only local results, I doubt the impact on global results by this tool. not convinced it is relevant for us

William Nye

01/10/2014 09:25 am

Penalty. There visibility tanked in early/mid December.

Cao Rainy

01/10/2014 09:49 am

Our sites didn't get affected. Coupon site: Maybe only a tiny small percentage of sites are punished.


01/10/2014 09:55 am

Seen quite a few up and down changes of our positions of late. Something is definately being tested in my books. Hopefully for the better :o)

Jitendra Vaswani

01/10/2014 11:22 am

did you saw drop IN GA also

Jitendra Vaswani

01/10/2014 11:22 am

wait it will happen

Karl Young

01/10/2014 12:13 pm

I saw a considerable delay yesterday. I hope it is an authority update - it would be good to see those unworthy of a top place be bumped down a bit.

John Britsios

01/10/2014 12:20 pm

Do you remember the exact date in October where your rankings dropped?


01/10/2014 12:30 pm

Well all my website traffic down at leatest 95% that too bad for me. :(


01/10/2014 12:30 pm

PS. Drop today from 7AM GMT5+

Jared Carrizales

01/10/2014 01:18 pm

Yes. Original drop came in late September and am now seeing a jump in traffic close to what it was previously.

guru John from india

01/10/2014 01:21 pm

There are some point affected by Google Update Website traffic down at latest 30% Google indexing new pages Show up local listing websites like yelp, Fb pages etc If you have notice something Please give more information about this analysis or update

Jitendra Vaswani

01/10/2014 01:28 pm



01/10/2014 01:41 pm

Today also drop at leatest 95% :(


01/10/2014 01:42 pm

Good.. about a 30% spike


01/10/2014 02:06 pm

Does anyone one know for sure what this update's purpose is apart from killing site traffic right now?

Steven Robinson

01/10/2014 02:07 pm

Oct 31


01/10/2014 05:45 pm

my site in arabic , i didn't notice any changes in my traffic , it is in his normal range

Sunny Gandhi

01/10/2014 06:19 pm

My site was on first position :S and today it is on 8th Rank. I hope, some temp. changes because other Authority sites are leading because of Fresh Content factor. I am hoping, my site will get rank within 24 hours. And if it is really a update then I am going lose something bigger.....


01/10/2014 06:48 pm

95% drop as well since last night at 9pm est.


01/10/2014 09:35 pm

Is everybody still getting reduced traffic?

SEO Consultant

01/10/2014 10:43 pm

The new Google algorithm update has definitely increased our search engine positions on a few of our sites. People who continue to build back links from same IP are only digging themselves deeper. Don't keep using the same strategy if it hasn't yet worked.

Dino Pizza

01/10/2014 10:43 pm

Have built up a new website recently and just as the site started to pick up after 3 months of hard work, it vanishes yesterday, can you see

Dino Pizza

01/10/2014 11:17 pm

Second to my below comment, does anyone know if the google changes are over? I need to know whether to go buy a fishing rod and some tackle and move on.

Miguel Araujo

01/10/2014 11:37 pm

in my sites those go up and those go down was wrong with google i do all ok an manual backlinks

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 12:37 am

What gets me, is that you spend 6 months building a business/profile as per SEO recommendations and all of a sudden your website disappears off the internet? Thousands of dollars and time wasted.


01/11/2014 01:19 am

Literally every single ranking page that I had is gone, not de-indexed, just so low that they might as well be. All them them disappeared on 1.9.2014

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 01:36 am

Same with me


01/11/2014 02:58 am

My crawl rate was steady and climbing daily, but now it's very choppy. Big ups and downs (judging by my bandwidth and access log). Traffic still down.


01/11/2014 04:01 am

Are you living in the past?

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 04:19 am

Seriously, I going to stop using Google as a search engine, I'm going back to magazines.

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 05:01 am

What type of site did you own?


01/11/2014 05:03 am

Multiple sites. All home-based business related. All gone. No idea why. Some are updated regularly. Some I haven't put new content on in over a year, but all disappeared same day. Webmaster tools shows no penalties. Giving me a headache trying to figure out the cause.

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 05:05 am

I paid some guy 5 dollars on Fiverr for some backlinks, I wonder if they were the cause? I also have nothing in Google webmaster tools. I hope it picks up and realigns within 24 hours?

John Britsios

01/11/2014 05:18 am

$5 on Fiverr for links? Well, if this was sort of Penguin update, then you have a problem.

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 05:24 am

I have no answers, only questions

John Britsios

01/11/2014 05:24 am

I only recall a possible quality algo update around the 25th of October 2013, which was not confirmed from Google.


01/11/2014 06:03 am

@Dino Pizza. I think that the recent update had something to do with Penguin and so it would have targeted your above-mentioned Website - backlink profile. From the look of your backlinks, you have a lot of directory links which I have seen in Google Webmaster forum is not a good thing. Also your homepage has hardly any text content. Seems like it's setup as a sort of location finder like yellow pages...maybe some duplicate content. Just my 2 cents to help.

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 06:06 am

Thanks mate, yes that looks moreso to be the case. Not sure where to take it from here, but I have lost about 6 months work. We combined information from various sources to improve user experience like address, reviews and links to yelp etc. Will Google deliver us an email or something to our webmaster tools?


01/11/2014 06:15 am

It was somewhere around 4th October, I think.


01/11/2014 08:56 am

Our SEO team noticed a huge spike in GWT Search Queries (impressions) specifically on January 1st, 2014. It's not a tiny spike, it's triple, quadrupal, and even 10X more impressions on roughly 8 of our SEO clients. We changed up our Citations strategies a bit and always run an SEO sweep to fix technical errors, but we didn't do all that at the same fact we took New Years Day off. Any thoughts? I'd like to report the good news to our clients with a cause.

Matt Morgan

01/11/2014 09:02 am

Our SEO team noticed a huge spike in GWT Search Queries (impressions) specifically on January 1st, 2014. It's not a tiny spike, it's triple, quadrupal, and even 10X more impressions on roughly 8 of our SEO clients. Any thoughts? I'd like to report the good news to our clients with a cause.

Kevin Ouellette

01/11/2014 09:10 am

Same thing happened to me. My entire site is suddenly practically invisible in the serps unless I search for an extremely precise longtail phrase or use the site: parameter. Otherwise I'm just getting tons of results consisting of my own social media posts and other sites summarizing/citing my articles. Hopefully it's some sort of temporary hiccup or we'll get a WMT notification.

Catalin Nichita

01/11/2014 12:14 pm

If you use Fiverr backlinks I have no doubt that you will be penalized... I cannot understand your strategy and why are you complaining. It was a mistake an now you must pay for your wrong decisions.

Catalin Nichita

01/11/2014 12:17 pm

You have just duplicate content on your sites. It's not about backilinks...

Abhijit Guha

01/11/2014 12:18 pm

Same here, taffic down by 30%. Hope everything will be fine in few days.

D.s. Aman

01/11/2014 02:19 pm

My traffic on my blog has also gone down by 35%. I don't indulge in link building practice too, so I dont think penguin maybe a problem for my blog. I was having good traffic from google for past 3 months and now all of a sudden traffic is falling down by 35% today. Any chance that this is a temporary thing and traffic will come back soon?

Hemant Jain

01/11/2014 06:04 pm

I am also seeing traffic coming down by 40% on my site, maybe some changes is going on.


01/11/2014 06:12 pm

Traffic gone down on one site by more than 60% between thursday and friday.

Muhammad Adnan Bashir

01/11/2014 07:11 pm

Traffic down way too much from yesterday for my site


01/11/2014 07:22 pm

my web trafic is down 45%


01/11/2014 07:52 pm

yes..i have noticed site showed big traffic drops...sad...

Miguel Araujo

01/11/2014 07:53 pm

where i have duplecate conten how i can see where is


01/11/2014 09:42 pm

still waiting

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 10:04 pm

So if I search for your websites and send fiverr backlinks to it, you will also be penalised right all at the cost of five bucks?

Dino Pizza

01/11/2014 10:07 pm

Good news? Your site traffic has dropped to nothing by the looks?

Kashish Jain

01/11/2014 10:55 pm

Yep.. Finally my traffic is increasing on :D

Dino Pizza

01/12/2014 12:17 am

You want to sell me your website? let me know your email and Ill flick you a mail.


01/12/2014 01:33 am

If the link profile is still "small" then most likely you would have triggered an algorithm filter and not a manual penalty. You will still have to show good faith and clear bad links. Put more textual content on yr site.


01/12/2014 02:13 am

my Site traffic is down by 40%, Main keyword rank goes from 2nd page to 4-5th page. may be this is EMD effect in my case.

Matt Morgan

01/12/2014 03:19 am

Ha, that would suck. Google analytics wasn't reporting the last 2 days on that screenshot.

Here to show you the way

01/12/2014 04:03 am

Google re-ran Penguin! I can not confirm it, but site has seen a huge increase in rankings for a keyword that was hit by Penguin on May 23rd. Today it ranks number 1:-)


01/12/2014 07:49 am

We had been hit with hummingbird back, never received manual spam letter but our site was moved so far back on search engine that even if you typed its name it wuldnt show up first. That's how fever penalty we got . Every since we been removing many unnatural low quality spam links that paid services put up. After we removed over 1000+ backlinks , the past 3 days out article positions in search engine are moving closer to second page , when before we lost all traffic cause our posts were back 10+ pages . Past 3 days our site has increased in organic google traffic. Skyrocketed since 9th , even for the weekend we didn't get traffic like this back then before hummingbird. We started increasing our google +1 on our site and likes by the hundreds daily in hope to increase rankings through social seo. Not sure if this had anything to do with it, doubt it even though we got over 1k google+1 on our site and over 2k fb likes. Pretty much deleted all backlinks I ever created or service did , google penalizes same IP backlinks. I also quit making backlinks and started writing more.


01/12/2014 07:54 am

The social likes and google plus were increased by that amount in a week. We really pushed the social seo up.

Kashish Jain

01/12/2014 09:18 am

It depends on your offer.. catch me on . Thanks

Catalin Nichita

01/12/2014 10:42 am

I don't understand how you want to rank with lyrics sites... This content (lyrics) appear on other 100000 sites. You have also a lot of spam tags...

Catalin Nichita

01/12/2014 10:45 am

It's not so simple. If you have a website with low quality signals (copied content, bad links) these new coming links (usually 100000 links coming in two days) will sink your site for sure. I suggest you to disavow all these links (take the fiverr report and disavow them). If you have also copied content, you can forget about this website, it's better to make another one, from zero.


01/12/2014 12:10 pm

Wao... Thats gonna be a wonderful update... My traffic rose about 250% from last few days on .. Wao its doing wonders..

Dino Pizza

01/12/2014 12:40 pm

Well for copied content, the strategy was pulling data from multiple sources to give the user a better experience. So copied, sure, but through an API. Ok, Ill get rid of these links.

Catalin Nichita

01/12/2014 01:09 pm

Better experience without original content? Google don't want this thing. You have two problems: unoriginal content and low quality links. PS: I am amazed that you think you will rank with that content. This is against Google rules, even you mix content from multiple sources.

Dino Pizza

01/12/2014 01:12 pm

No, it's not against Google rules, unless you can show me this. Our website offers many benefits to users. I have disavowed all links bad. We will see what happens.

Evan Rachel

01/12/2014 01:17 pm

45% web traffic is down on 23 Dec 2013

Catalin Nichita

01/12/2014 01:42 pm

You make me laugh with your unoriginal content ideas: "However, some webmasters attempt to improve their pages’ ranking and attract visitors by creating pages with many words but little or no authentic content. Google will take action against domains that try to rank more highly by just showing scraped or other cookie-cutter pages that don't add substantial value to users." "Does the article provide original content or information, original reporting, original research, or original analysis?"

Dino Pizza

01/12/2014 01:47 pm

Thanks mate. I am happy you are amused.

Vibhu Gauba

01/12/2014 02:07 pm

Tracking almost like 700-800 clients of ours and all have moved up !!!! Good time for us. We can help any of you guys who are suffering from a drop. Regards Vibhu Gauba

Miguel Araujo

01/12/2014 02:11 pm

i will rank the lyrics site when the site is on the first page on google i will tell you, i will try to fix taqs and use only the necesary

Catalin Nichita

01/12/2014 02:12 pm

Hey, I am sorry that you are not doing well in search. You must read the Google TOS very well. Their bots are inflexible and able to remove all unoriginal content when they push an update. Just start a new site, with original content and you should be protected. Good luck!

Chirag Patel

01/12/2014 02:13 pm

Good News For Me. .. 200% Traffic up on

01/12/2014 04:48 pm

our site's Traffic has gone down around 70% of its average traffic

Monu Alagh

01/12/2014 05:27 pm

bad news for me indexing gone of my website


01/12/2014 05:59 pm

Zero self link building, all organic rankings and not a single scratch till now. All a positive sign from Google. Its not that evil I guess sometimes.

Design Of Furniture

01/12/2014 08:34 pm

Because of this update i lose my keywords day by day, %50 keywords gone and its not stoped to lose.


01/12/2014 09:55 pm

Unlucky sunshine. My first opinions... bad English, bad design, advertising guest posts. I wouldn't want you in my SERPs.


01/12/2014 09:57 pm

Bad English and terrible grammar. Unlucky son, try again.


01/12/2014 09:58 pm

Can find your news on more reputable sites. Keep up the good work though.


01/12/2014 09:59 pm

OMG what will you do in 2015.


01/12/2014 10:00 pm

Latest Pictures of Celebrity? Maybe that should read Latest Pictures of Celebrities. Bad English. Where's the celebrities? All I see is games? High five Google.


01/12/2014 10:00 pm

Enjoy it while you can.


01/12/2014 10:02 pm

Sounds fishy. You have built backlinks? Someone is cheating and will continue to cheat. Good luck with that.


01/12/2014 10:03 pm

There's bigger boys in the game for your sort of news. EMD.


01/12/2014 10:03 pm

I can't see why.


01/12/2014 10:04 pm

Typical Indian web site logo header.


01/12/2014 10:04 pm



01/12/2014 10:05 pm

Yeah lets all go on strike!

Nicholas G

01/12/2014 11:35 pm

LOL @ Dino Pizza.. "I paid some guy 5 dollars on Fiverr for some backlinks".


01/13/2014 02:32 am

dam i lost 75% traffic I thought my site was good


01/13/2014 02:47 am

WebSpamHunter tell me something ;)

Jitendra Vaswani

01/13/2014 04:52 am

Yes wait Google will stunned all of us soon with another update

Jitendra Vaswani

01/13/2014 04:54 am

I can also see drop in my website traffic. I dont know what unusual things are happening

Richard Hopkins

01/13/2014 05:39 am

I am in Australia and yes there is an update with limited application. Most clients stayed put or moved up, but 2 significant movements. One entertainment site displaced by a site that that went from several pages back to #1 for a website that hasn't changed since 2011 - now its first place in both organics and Google Places. Other client has 10 ecommerce sites targeting different business products most were back on page 3 - 5 - now suddenly have gone front page, one went to #1 and another #2 for money keyword. Sites unchanged in years as owners personal circumstance has changed, they run Joomla 1.5 which is years out of date and still go top. ???


01/13/2014 06:00 am

My website ranking goes down for many keywords...... @webspamhunter:disqus can you please tell the issues my website has !

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:11 am

In your case the site does not have too many authoritative links, so the site authority is low which may be causing the downward movement. This I found on a cursory glace, there may be other issues involved.

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:16 am

lots of low quality, irrelevant, no follow blog comment links, give scrapebox a rest and then maybe google will like your site better.

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:20 am

low quality unreadable content on many posts, looks like an autoblog, can you understand this page Also, go a little slow on the internal links and try not to automate them


01/13/2014 06:21 am

Thanks Ashish. Then what should i do to get backlinks for this site !

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:25 am

When the site PR remains 0 even after the latest google update, its the first sign that google does not like something about your site. also, most of the content is also found on another site, don't know if you are copying its content or vice versa

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:27 am

There are various ways but the best is creating excellent link worthy content and promoting it on all sources where people are talking about your niche like forums, social media etc. and people would link to it naturally

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:29 am

autoblogs stopped ranking long time ago

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:31 am

social signals can help a site but it depends if its natural or created. Google is especially looking after fake google +1s

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:35 am

maybe penguin is not prowling around your site, but panda may be chewing it, we cannot know unless your share the url

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:38 am

I would not break any news to my client based on WMT data, it is sometimes very fickle, unless you see increase in traffic or rankings

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:39 am

if its an alogrithmic update, which it looks like, then you would not get any WMT notification. That is only for manual penalties

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:40 am

unless you share any site url you will only get back guesses

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:43 am

google typically does around 500 changes big and small in an year, so they will keep coming

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:46 am

I can't find your yahoo directory link, if that link was deleted, it was a very powerful link to loose

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 06:49 am

This has been going since hummingbird but I don't see major changes to traffic to authority sites, not yet


01/13/2014 07:04 am

For the last three days my traffic has spiked 60% (Jan 10-11-12) Keywords on Page 2 jumped to page 1. Keywords on Page 6 went to Pages 2 or 3 I would love to get my hopes up but the same thing happened to me @ the end of November 2013 and then they dropped back down. I'm hoping the changes stick this time I need the money and my site is very labor intensive so it isn't worth keeping it updated unless its making decent money.

Design Of Furniture

01/13/2014 07:18 am

Thank you for your advice, I will be more careful about my guest authors, I removed all authors account now. Could you give me more information about "go a little slow on the internal links and try not to automate them"

Design Of Furniture

01/13/2014 07:22 am

Thank you for your opinions, site layout works in different variations in a day, maybe you can like other variants of its. Best wishes..

Ashish Ahuja

01/13/2014 07:25 am

on this page I mentioned above there are two internal links and that is there on most of the pages. Internal links are good for seo if done manually, these links look like being done for seo purposes only and does not add any value to the reader.

Design Of Furniture

01/13/2014 07:43 am

I understood Mr. AHUJA , thanks again for your helpful comments. Best wishes...

Kevin Ouellette

01/13/2014 07:48 am

Yeah I probably tripped something. I have a feeling it's related to a recent domain name change. I used the site move tool, but now WMT is reporting all the internal links from the old domain as external links to the new one. Hopefully it will gradually sort itself out as the 301s get crawled/indexed.

Prachi Sharma

01/13/2014 08:59 am

hi My Traffic went 60% Down from 8th January my site is please some one help me what's wrong with my blog plz help mt


01/13/2014 09:43 am

Hi Ashish, i also got hit by this unconfirmed update. As my site is its initial platform and it'll take few time to get rank but i had worked for few long tail keywords, they also get hit. My site is: and i really disturbed with this fluctuation.


01/13/2014 09:48 am

were did you find this info? I should not have any blog comment links other then the natural ones.


01/13/2014 10:52 am

But i provide services only. I can not put much content! isn't there any other way?

Travis Jamison

01/13/2014 11:56 am

The problem with your blog is that every single backlink (except for one forum profile!) is a blog comment. Nofollow at that.

Satyapal Garhwal

01/13/2014 12:03 pm

My traffic is extremely down from 8Th January My website is . Anybody please help me. Daily visitor goes down from 5k to 2k

Hemant Jain

01/13/2014 12:27 pm

Hello, Mine traffic is went down by 40% please can you suggest me some guidelines for my blog

Deepak Joshi

01/13/2014 12:57 pm

Yup, I think so because the activities I was performing for ORM showed me some positive results and the negative links have moved down...... raising the positive links upwards

Monu Alagh

01/13/2014 03:00 pm

whats wrong in my English sale fuddu....

Kashish Jain

01/13/2014 09:13 pm

I think this will answer your question.


01/13/2014 09:28 pm

I see the traffic is coming back up now....all be it slowly. What the hell!

Lionel Marco

01/14/2014 05:38 am

Good for you guys its only 40%. Mine went down by almost 90%. My main keywords where all ranking top position in page 1 and now all went down to page 4 and some page 5. There definitely is an update in the google algo. I also check my ranking in bing ang yahoo and all is normal

Ashish Ahuja

01/14/2014 09:58 am

There are various ways in which you can create this kind of content for e.g. "checklist of what to do when moving", "how to take care of precious items while moving" etc. content about the questions your potential client would have in his mind

Ashish Ahuja

01/14/2014 10:01 am

this looks like minor penguin refresh to me going by the data I am seeing. In your case the only problem I see is overoptimised anchor text

Ashish Ahuja

01/14/2014 10:03 am

just put you website in majesticseo. The blog comments I am seeing are far from natural especially the anchor text


01/14/2014 12:49 pm

Thanks Ashish!! i'll surely consider this point.


01/14/2014 12:56 pm

That would be a great piece of evidence if you had actually lost traffic on January 8th or 9th.


01/14/2014 12:58 pm

Spaces after your periods would get your rankings back. Trust me.


01/14/2014 12:59 pm

The problem is your content is made for search engines and not users. Other than that, what a great read your posts are.


01/14/2014 01:52 pm

If we compare thur jan 2 to mon jan 6 we got double the traffic compared to thur jan 9 to Monday jan 13. We dropped from number 2 to number 3 on page one which doesn't seem like a big deal but to us it is

Kashish Jain

01/14/2014 02:11 pm

Well, I believe I dont have that much knowledge about these updates like you have, its just that for that first time one of my sites saw a positive change after any update.. so felt happy and posted it up here... Didn't intended to prove anything. :)

Ashish Ahuja

01/14/2014 02:31 pm

So many Indian sites going down, it must be a Google Update against Indians (pun intended)

D.s. Aman

01/14/2014 03:25 pm

Here is the URL: .. Can you please check and let me know?


01/14/2014 03:33 pm

Lets see what happen :)

Vishal Bohara

01/14/2014 03:53 pm

I have a Wordpress domain. And I registered my blog 2 months ago. But recently I have started working on my blog. And I have submitted my sitemap by using "Google XML Sitemaps" plugin on 7th January 2014. And I have 14en posts in my blog (all posts published in the time period of 7th Jan to 13 Jan 2014). But 2 URLs indexed already in webmaster tools. Why??? In the short Why Google Is Not Crawling My Site Normally. Recently I fetched a URL... And this submitted to index and Search Engine Show this URL.. But this URL doesn't have any SERP for any keyword... Tell Me Any Solution...Plzz :(

Nick Ker

01/14/2014 03:58 pm

Not if you followed Google's Webmaster Guidelines

Nick Ker

01/14/2014 04:01 pm

I'd bet you five dollars that those Fiverr backlinks are part of your problem, especially if you don't have any legitimate links pointing to the site.

Ali Qayyum

01/14/2014 04:28 pm

hi i have decline in traffic since 10th january 2014. my website was constant and improving in recent time. all of sudden 70% traffic lost. any one help me to trace the problem thanks

Hemant Jain

01/14/2014 05:18 pm

I think so...


01/14/2014 05:29 pm

How much traffic you were getting ? and now how much you are receiving may be i can help you.

Ahmed Murtaza

01/14/2014 06:22 pm

I had a drop of like 65% since 10th January. I used to post articles daily on my blog, however, prior to 10th January, i was posting much less. Anyway, im not sure about the cause, the traffic had a drop for 4 days; but today, it seems like that the traffic will increase by a few 100 extra views as compared to yesterday. Btw, my blog used to get an average of 6500+ views per day, and it has dropped to like 2500 views per day. Any ideas? i think i just have to be more active like i was previously? here is my blog -


01/14/2014 06:50 pm

There is something odd about the traffic. In October/November there was an increase on some websites. In January all those gains are gone from them. It is as if the January update was a rollback to November. Anyone else see this as a rollback to November? As for unnatural back-links. If this was true it would be very easy for me to take my competition to the cleaners by building them loads of crappy backlinks for them. On another note to Google. In November I had IP1 with your boost because of the website I had to upgrade the account in December so now I have IP2. Now that the spurt of traffic is gone I have to downgrade the account again with a new IP3. Come month end your 'algo' will tell me that my IP has changed 3 times in 4 months so I must be a spammer. You create more problems than you are worth. I pray someone decent comes around and provides proper search traffic and not create more problems than what we had before.

Ashish Ahuja

01/14/2014 07:51 pm

I don't see and onsite of offsite issue on the site i.e. the links look ok (they are very few and not authoritative) and the content looks original but the site is small and not authoritative with only 193 pages indexed so if you don't believe in backlinking then keep adding content and engage in content marketing with like minded bloggers and social media and you would start seeing results when the activity starts growing around the site

Vishal Bohara

01/15/2014 04:35 am

And Google is not indexing my new blog's post... ? Why


01/15/2014 04:43 am

Seems its a Strategy at Google, when Matt Need more money they start tweaking algos. They start moving Search Results up and down, in order to ask website to spend money in PPC. End of the day game remains same, some website rank above and some go down, finally its Google who hide under the skin of "Google Algo Update". Unfortunately, Google support all kind of black hat guys!

Ashish Ahuja

01/15/2014 08:01 am

Indexing becomes slow during updates so wait a little

Ashish Ahuja

01/15/2014 08:07 am

Google wants to hurt many people and make them go negative way, it helps their purpose. I have an analogy for this as well which is used by police in cities which has lots of gangs, they just pitch one gang against other and they fight within themselves and reduce the no of goons and when there are little left the police cleans the rest. This is what google is doing now pitting webmasters against each other

Ali Qayyum

01/15/2014 01:14 pm

i have traffic around 5K per day, now its reached at 1300 visits only


01/15/2014 02:18 pm

We saw a huge spike in organic traffic on Jan. 10 to the pages we updated on Dec. 16. Hope the trend continues.


01/15/2014 11:54 pm

anywa what i have ever since in this january. mass change in SERP's and blogs got down and going down day by day. 1stwebdesigner lost 2m visits since jan. may be google will resolve problem or this gonna be same.


01/16/2014 06:06 am

Very true and I have noticed it on Google product forums. You have webmaster against webmaster accusing them of all kinds of things. The authorship game they have going is in my view all about promoting their Google Plus product. Look at some of the authors who get to keep their pictures. They push Google Plus. This is not about quality search it is about making more money for Google by promoting their failed product "Plus".


01/16/2014 06:09 am

Yes, well said. Did you notice how after Panda you could not find things on the internet any longer? The good quality content sunk so you started to click more on adverts. :) Brilliant observation!


01/16/2014 09:27 am

Hi Ashish, can you help me find out why my blog has dropped massively in traffic? In December i was averaging 200 uniques a day, and from the 10th Jan my organic traffic has dropped from 100 to 5 visitors a day from google. If my referral traffic wasnt so good I'd be screwed, thank you.

Ashish Ahuja

01/16/2014 09:43 am

it looks like you lost lots of link in last 1 month and the site has high nofollow to dofollow ratio which is mostly due to blog comments and google sometimes consider this as blog comment spam. This is what I could find in first glance, there may be onsite issues which I have not looked into

Oral Seymour

01/16/2014 11:08 am

This is total nonsense and crap. If your rankings are down that means someone's traffic is up. The traffic didn't just dissapear into thin air.

Ashish Ahuja

01/16/2014 11:12 am

yep traffic of wikipedia, youtube and amazon is up

Any Ideas?

01/16/2014 04:14 pm

Any thoughts on the following scenario involving three sites of mine that I had build around August/Sept 2013 and decimated on January 8-9 appreciated. They were all very well written sites I did by hand with unique/fresh content. Sites A & B ranked number 1 for primary search term. They also ranked number one or on the front page of numerous other secondary and long tail keywords. Site A is still ranked on the front page of google around 5 or 6 with most other pages falling off onto second page or worse. Site B is still ranked number 1 overall on Google for this keyword with most other pages falling off onto second page of Google or worse. Site C ranked number three on google for primary keyword and ranked highly on many other pages. Now it ranks around 15 overall for primary keyword and fallen off the map for many others. Does this sound like a Penguin hit? I thought Penguin would basically take out my entire site. Here I have three sites that are still ranking rather well for primary keyword. Is this indicative of Penguin? Without question my sites were hit during this time period. What is your assessment and would you continue to invest time and energy into these sites? Do you think I need to spend more time focusing on linking to inner pages or is it a lost cause? Thank you.

Nick Ker

01/16/2014 04:23 pm

Rankings fluctuate for a huge variety of reasons - not just links. And not every change in the SERPs is due to a penalty. While nobody can really tell for sure if this is due to Penguin without looking at the sites and the links to them, I can tell you that you should spend less time worrying about penguin and links, and more time focusing on giving people good reasons to link to your sites. What I mean is this - you ask if you should spend more time focusing on linking to inner pages. You shouldn't be the one doing the linking. Other webmasters should be doing that, ideally without you telling them what you'd like them to do. So if you do have a lot of links that you decided where they point, what they say, etc - then you probably do have some type of link-based problem. Now, if you meant "should I spend more time making the inner pages more link-worthy?", the answer is yes.

Nick Ker

01/16/2014 04:27 pm

There was a change in Webmaster Tools on December 31st or Jan 1st. The way they present search queries is supposedly more precise now. Most people saw some type of change in that graph around that time.


01/16/2014 06:06 pm

anyway one of my friend knows a man who works in Google and we are collecting G analytics screenshot of those people who lost their website ranking in last few days to give a proof. would you like to send your analytics report screenshot please include your last traffic report how much you were getting and now report - if yes then email screenshot us at

Kevin Osborne

01/16/2014 07:26 pm

Yawn......this type is of reasoning is so have no idea what affects what much like the rest of us. Google does not even know what the impacts of their changes will do, that's why we are the guinea pigs. Your comment is very Matt flash, his goal is not to help the public make money off free traffic. It is to reveal the little guys so they can be cut from the SERPS and the large entities which fuel adwords can take their place.


01/17/2014 10:30 am

you should concentrate on link building

Dino Pizza

01/19/2014 06:23 am

Yes you may be right as I think the sites SERP have rolled back. As my site was brand new wwell months old and then BOOM. Now its starting to grow again. Fuck you Google.


01/19/2014 07:04 pm

I'm starting to see my traffic improve slowly. I fixed some 500 errors (due to my code), but these errors only affected less than 0.01% of my total pages. I also removed all affiliate links from my site which cut daily income by 60%, but it's worth it if my traffic returns to normal. I decreased a lot of the css paddings to bring more content above the fold, just in case the site was hit with a not enough content above the fold penalty. This update decreased my income by more than $12k a month and a thorough analysis has been done in order to get this traffic back. I hope my analysis can help others who seriously depend on their sites monetarily.

Daniel Delos

01/21/2014 04:09 pm

Just describing traffic patterns tells us almost nothing but the SERP losses you described isn't a lost cause. It's also not clear in every case if it was a penalty on the site or just heavy devaluing of some of the links that used to be helping. But from the date of the losses and the fact that it hit 3 of your sites at once, it's clearly not due to an existing Penguin update unless you blasted all 3 sites with the same links at the same time... It's something new. Whether or not they call it "Penguin 2.2" is beside the point since every Penguin update is unique (not the same as a "refresh"). Until people get more evidence on this, all you can know is that whatever link building you were doing was not ideal.

Lilia Tovbin

01/21/2014 08:13 pm

Just look at the sites that now rank above you for the keywords/phrases you used to rank higher - note how their pages are different from yours then draw your own conclusions. Generic rules and advice don't always apply, you are better off doing your own work.

Lilia Tovbin

01/21/2014 08:17 pm

I am not sure I like the analogy with gangs, because someone's loss is also someone's gain - signs point to official sites with less ads being the winners on this most recent update. But you can also think of it this way - if large commercial sites are loosing rankings they just MIGHT spend more on AdWords to make up for losses on organic results. That would be a brilliant business strategy, wouldn't it?

Steven Robinson

01/22/2014 04:44 am

All the ranking we gathered on jan 9th-10th seem to be sinking , the site which sank down on 9th itself is again back on track .

Ashish Ahuja

01/22/2014 07:48 am

I agree that making commercial sites move to adwords would be a brilliant strategy, but google can only create anarchy, the result of that would depend on each individual choice. Some may move to adwords other may move to negative seo.

Rahul Ranjan

01/22/2014 01:11 pm

My traffic is become 40% down from 8 January. My Website is Can you please help me about that how to recover my traffic again.


01/22/2014 02:49 pm

my site was down this morning 4:00AM GMT+5 any kind of update?

Chirag Patel

01/22/2014 03:26 pm

Just change the domain to 2015 ;)

Krish Murali Eswar

01/22/2014 03:42 pm

I am seeing a sudden shift in google search engine ranking. I run many websites. I track 1000's keywords everyday. Why are rankings changing so rapidly?

Anwesha Bose

01/24/2014 10:24 am

I can see that the discussion has sort of died down, but it is absolutely harassing to see such sudden changes. Pages as old as two years with absolutely irrelevant information are hitting on top in the search and pages with actual and updated info gone down to as many as four to five pages. What is Google trying to do?

Anwesha Bose

01/24/2014 11:13 am

Hey any update now? My site was hit on the 22nd of Jan. Did you try anything new?

James Jenkins

01/24/2014 01:36 pm

I am seeing lots of irrelevant sites in the uk serps, some are even not working at all!

Anwesha Bose

01/24/2014 01:40 pm

Same in the Indian SERPS. Any idea what's the way forward now? First there is one update which brings down a million troubles, we change everything and things start looking up, then this happens. From what I have observed (mainly in the keywords I keep a track of), it's a mix of old and new sites that are now coming in the top. Only one or two are relevant rest are all general blogging type posts. There is nothing in common in any of them so can't even conclude what they have done right and we have done wrong. Any light on this would be appreciated. Seriously am lost.

James Jenkins

01/24/2014 01:41 pm

Hi, What has happened since you posted this? Anything new? My site was hit hard yesterday, loosing 75% from google


01/24/2014 06:37 pm

I removed about 500 links from a blog i commented on ages ago, I'm not sure how i got so many links but i put in a "disavow" request in Webmaster Tools and VOILA! My rankins are partially back, not fully... but I have regained about 80% of my organic traffic. I also removed a load of affiliate links on my homepage and removed a few "thin articles"


01/25/2014 04:10 am

One of the sites I knew is getting almost 600% traffic from 10th January. Number of clicks from Google went up very high.


01/26/2014 02:23 am

One of my main money sites had been killed this January. I think the update made the algorithm more clever at detecting link wheels / link networks. I don't think i covered my footprints very well. The site isn't dead in the water, but there have been some severe drops.


01/27/2014 11:57 am

Same here! My site was behaving good in last 3 months, because it is only 4 month old. I got average 250+ unique IPs at second and third months, so it is in the normal pace. But suddenly, January 9th-10th, my site tanked to only 10-20 IPs per day, all my longtails keywords dropped, the site still indexed. One more thing, my site has very few links, just 20 around blog comments(really), 10+ high PR bookmark links, thats all, and already done at the beginning. So, i have done nothing while the Penguin boy hit me, i really do not know what's going on here, Onpage SEO or Weak link profile and just normal, i need more powerful links?! GOD DAMN GOOGLE

Anwesha Bose

01/27/2014 12:17 pm

Does anyone have any idea what exactly the new guidelines or updates are, if any? We have to do something to regain the traffic. From what I observe, there is no set pattern or anything great done by the new sites that are coming up. In fact in the keywords that I have been following, the sites that are coming up now are pretty obsolete and have outdated information.


01/27/2014 02:51 pm

AFAIK, google cant detect the IPs when you build a link on a web 2.0 or so


02/04/2014 02:40 am

I also got hit by this and dropped from rank 5 to 131. Anyway, after some testing I was able to bring my page all the way back up to rank 6 in a couple of days of making my change. I wish I had more sites to test this on, but this is what I did:

Webmaster Sun

02/04/2014 02:23 pm

I feel this, my keywords increased from top 10 to top 4 in some days. It's amazing..

Spook SEO

02/04/2014 04:26 pm

Hi Barry! I have also noticed that there was a possible Google update underway last January 9, 2014. There was a change is rankings as well as shifts in search results. I guess some SEO are not happy about this certain update made by Google.


02/04/2014 08:37 pm

Seems its a Strategy at Google, when Matt Need more money they start tweaking algos. They start moving Search Results up and down, in order to ask website to spend money in PPC. End of the day game remains same, some website rank above and some go down, finally its Google who hide under the skin of "Google Algo Update". Unfortunately, Google support all kind of black hat guys!


02/05/2014 03:58 am

hi terry, was curious to see if you had any update? have things improved yet?


02/05/2014 03:59 am

Hi Ali, any luck getting your rankings back?


02/06/2014 12:10 pm

I have the same problem as you. and i just did this same way to recover. Hopefully, i can see the positive result soon. How long you see your traffic back in normal again?. Thanx


02/06/2014 08:09 pm

It took about 10 days in total. During this time i boosted posts on my social media profiles, and uploaded some unique content with over 1000+ words in each article.


02/07/2014 02:30 am

thanx. i will see how it goes.


02/07/2014 08:54 pm

Looks like you just had a really bad link or two, not a "penalty". That happens sometimes. Sites with above average quality and popularity tend to get enough good links and usage that one or two bad ones don't matter like that. Hard to say, since you chose to be secretive about what the site in question actually is. Makes for bad analysis and leads to the assumption that you have been trying to game the system a bit too much. Definitely over-thinking it in an irrational way if you believe that using a keyword once in a title, description, and sensibly in the content would get you a penalty. You'll drive yourself mad trying to micromanage the SERPs. This is why you should focus on what you CAN control like content strategy and quality, rather than things you cannot control like Google updates. Or things you should not try to control so much, like links to your site. But just to fuel your paranoia: Read up on how Google's algorithm can sometimes see when you make changes like that and it will change rankings to trick you into believing something had an effect when it did not, or vice versa. That's why real case studies are done over long periods of time.


02/09/2014 12:35 am

I think Google has made even more changes to their algorithm based on, and I have been slapped AGAIN... back down to 5 organic traffic a day from 100 after i thought i recovered from the first slap. I have no idea what i am doing wrong, i only ever upload unique content... thinking of just removing my website altogether and just going blackhat, it seems blackhat websites do far better than whitehat anyway.


02/13/2014 05:54 am

Maybe you boosted too much post in 1 attempt?. What i did is send disavow request, remove my overuse keywords on post tittle, delete all my post meta search description ( i prefer keywords on article body now ), delete some of my adsense unit and place them on various position. During this time i didnt listed my blog on search engine. Now i make it visible again, havent post new stuff yet. Dont want "spammy" google all in once. Some of my keywords is back again. So, I think it might be work. I will start publish tomorrow, and see how it goes.

Asad Shaikh

02/13/2014 11:31 am

Even we have noticed change is rankings. However one thing that is disturbing us is that Google webmaster is not showing proper data since 10th Feb. Is anyone facing the same issue?

Vishal Bohara

03/16/2014 11:30 am

I am making .edu backlinks for my education blog via blog commenting. Is the blog commenting bad for SEO and Google.

Travis Jamison

03/19/2014 08:10 am

It just doesn't work like that. It's not that simple. If you are doing quality blog commenting that adds value, is relevant, and is in moderation then it is a good thing. If you do it in large excess, then it becomes obvious that you're just spamming. Nothing is set in stone though. Spam still works obviously, but if your site is in it for the long-term then you might want to avoid that. There are so many link sources out there that you can claim are natural. Do those instead of just blog comments. I'm a grey-hatter, I do things at scale, and I like it that way. But if you're exactly sure of what you're doing, or if you are trying to learn how build natural-ish links that are diversified check out Brians site

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