Was There A Google Panda Refresh? #22

Nov 19, 2012 • 8:44 am | comments (38) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates

Google Panda Refresh 22I am seeing lots of chatter and discussion around another Google update that started around Friday, November 16th.

It may be a Panda refresh or some other type of update. But the discussion seems to be implying there was a small Panda refresh this past Friday, November 16th.

Mozcast doesn't show much of a shift but SERP Metrics does show a small uptick in changes at Google.

If there was a Panda refresh, that would only put about two weeks between Panda #21 and this Panda refresh.

I have emailed Google for confirmation on this update and will update you all when I have word back.

Forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.

Update: See my updated post named Google Won't Confirm Weekend Update But Says Panda Coming Soon.

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Praveen Sharma

11/19/2012 01:52 pm

Even I heard something about this update. Although none of my sites got effected by it in any way, but one of friend was complaining about drop (big) in traffic in past two days. We are still diagnosing the reason, whether it was due to weekend or it was really some Google update.


11/19/2012 03:19 pm

i also face big traffic drop in last two days....it looks like a big update from google or something broken....i never kicked by panda or penguvin but this 16th is worse...


11/19/2012 03:29 pm

The drop for one of my sites happened between 1am and 2am GMT on Saturday morning this weekend. About a 35 - 40% drop.


11/19/2012 03:37 pm

The problem is it's hard to tell whether your site's losing traffic because of it's a short week or the algo change.


11/19/2012 03:38 pm

Big drop on my spanish site since saturday, about 40-50%

Google is rigged

11/19/2012 04:15 pm

It's about a month from the season #kaching! for Google #majorloss for others. Google is rigged to the core.

Art Science Web

11/19/2012 04:37 pm

My clients site was hit with a -25% drop in organic non-branded keywords starting on Friday. We've been seeing a good increase in traffic the last several weeks despite seasonality common for my client.

josh bachynski

11/19/2012 04:41 pm

if you can send me the site I can tell you whether it is panda or penguin


11/19/2012 05:16 pm

can you tell me which also affects me.. azresults com thanks


11/19/2012 05:23 pm

About a 40% of traffic dropped across all my sites, was very strange...

Vincent Abry

11/19/2012 05:31 pm

Big drop on Saturday morning on my main site and several sites, very weird. Another french site (consultant, very old site) was also hit very hard.


11/19/2012 05:38 pm

I think that at some point, trying to identify Google algorithm updates by directly identifying them by popular nicknames misses the mark. What we're really talking about here is a multitude of stored procedures in a database working together to effect a desired outcome in the database application and user interface. In my limited experience in database development, one of the more difficult things to accomplish because of intensive processing requirements, is to develop a result set that excludes something. When you tell a database to return a set based on something that is not there, the entire database must be thoroughly searched to accomplish that objective of the “not in” operator. To mitigate this, and index of a table of those results from a “not in” search can be used instead, speeding things up greatly. That index could be an index of “inferior webpages” that can be updated on a routine basis. That way when the “not in” operator is called, it can process and deliver results much more efficiently. An update in the “bad set” would simply give the same Panda algorithm a fresh index of bad pages and websites to exclude. This would make quite a splash in the observable results without necessarily being an actual update or change to the algorithm itself.

Shazida Khatun

11/19/2012 05:40 pm

No one comes forward as competitor of Google till date , so they are doing what they wants ......but days are coming their business will become flop show .

Darren Hayward

11/19/2012 05:49 pm

If anything, we've seen a jump in rankings

Dr. Rajesh Moganti

11/19/2012 06:00 pm

Yes @praveen this is very weird this time ... Because sites which are not effected till now with either panda and penguin are also effected. I am surprised if this will come out as a new name :)


11/19/2012 06:14 pm

Big drop here too... more than 50%. Started last saturday.

Henri Labarre

11/19/2012 06:25 pm

Big drop around 30 and 45% for the last three days since Saturday on one of my website

Ismael Verón

11/19/2012 06:39 pm

Huge drop on my spanish sites, about 30% of the traffic gone today.. See ya in another life brother..thanks google.

Ismael Veron

11/19/2012 06:41 pm

oh, by the way, Great job google, we are still seeing the 10 top results with the same domain! http://www.mundocatalogo.es/catalogo-conforama-google.jpg

Guy E

11/20/2012 12:59 am

I've seen a drop in SERPs for a few of my sites... I'm guessing that there was an update of some sort..


11/20/2012 03:05 am

I saw a huge influx of USA traffic on 3 of my UK websites that normally get none, so figured something was happening.

Atul Mishra

11/20/2012 06:06 am

Yes Panda changes are very essential for providing good search results, but my experience Panda updates are all about how to save the business of Google and make platform for Pay Per Click Advertsing.

Atul Mishra

11/20/2012 06:10 am

I'm agree with you @ Shazida Khatun

Fisher Man

11/20/2012 08:17 am

For the last couple of days, it seems there has been big drop of traffic for some popular websites and blogs. I hope something wrong is causing this. I'm waiting for Google's confirmation to decide what's wrong.

Website Developers

11/20/2012 11:22 am

Yes i guess there was some update. I got huge drop in my website to


11/20/2012 11:25 am

We have seen 40% to 50% drop 4 of our major websites since Saturday. Our websites are large popular forums, running steadily since 6+ years.

Website Developers

11/20/2012 11:32 am

traffic has been decreased...very badly


11/20/2012 02:03 pm

Hi all. The 16th I firstly noticed a drop of my keywords in the 2nd page of Google and then, today, they are below the 5th page ! It has been quite gradual to be an update or you think updates can also perform this way? Any idea?


11/20/2012 02:06 pm

Whoops, I forgot to precise the country is Italy and the TLD is .it .

Barry Schwartz

11/20/2012 02:07 pm

Update for you all. Google won't confirm or deny there was an update over the weekend but a Panda refresh is coming within 10 days. See http://www.seroundtable.com/google-update-brew-15976.html for more details.

Seo Hop

11/20/2012 02:17 pm

yea i reported on this on the 16th http://www.seo-hop.com/google-update-november-2012-2-panda-penguin/ and then re-reported on the 17th

Javier Petrement

11/21/2012 03:19 am

Definitely some big time shuffling in our niche (real estate in Vietnam), during the same day Friday 16th, our client's website was dancing from 1st position to 40th and anywhere in between. However, it is still in tops spots once things got back to normal. I personally don't think it was a Panda update.


11/21/2012 11:36 am

Without a doubt, something did happen. I'm seeing a 30% drop in search traffic. So much for my attempts to recover from the late June update, which also took away 30% of my traffic back then. Hey Google: I create original, thoughtful content that people want to read ... Lay off my go**amn site.


11/24/2012 04:25 am

The original Panda on Nov 5th helped me a lot now this time Nov 16 I am back down...this is all I so..up down up down up down.. back where i started after encouraging signs:@ I hate Google


11/24/2012 12:31 pm

Google is trying to kill SEO. But here's my message to Google. Hey Google, The more you try the more you'll fail :) With these stupid updates we are becoming more and more stronger. Don't force us to turn your World Upside Down.

Ngan Tengyuen

11/30/2012 07:28 pm

The search results is personalized based on your browsing history. Everyone will see a different results for the same keywords based on many factors such as location, culture, browsing history... etc. I am seeing 1 domain for that keyword, you are seeing 10 because you visited the site.


12/17/2012 08:28 am

i am going to leave google services...google showing very tuff algorithm..updating again and again improving ad words not thinking about client ...


02/08/2013 03:50 am

As this Google panda update was implemented, there's been a lot of website owners that is being affected by this due to the strict rules that were able to implement to this newly web updates. Google services is now making any actions of those spamming techniques in seo.

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