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Dark Red Owl commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

Currently in Discover I see 3 of our materials stolen with our titles. We are done. What is even more curious is that the sites that steal foreign materials are in Google News Showcase, a program for sponsoring selected media. Google shuts their mouths so that they do not write that they violate competition law and copyright. Several of the sites in Google Discover and Showcase are on a person sanctioned by the USA under the Magnetsky law for corruption. These sites serve corrupt politicians in our country and additionally Google sponsors and distributes them. I also see several sites in Discover with direct Russian propaganda, sites that are financed by the Kremlin. In our country, the Google coordinator is a well-known businessman, associated with the ruling party for the last 15 years and was even considered a candidate for mayor of the capital. This party implemented all of Putin's geopolitical projects related to energy in our country before the war against Ukraine began.

Comment ID #6816170709 12/29/2025 04:24 pm

Ted (or Big T) commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

I was told that Google would announce the update as complete today. All signs pointed to this.

Comment ID #6816165265 12/29/2025 04:09 pm

Sensei commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

<blockquote>You always know the day is coming, given everyone else's recent experiences, but you always hold out hope you'll survive just one more core update. Hope everyone else made it through.</blockquote>This industry is now Russian roulette. Some may get lucky for a while longer than others, but eventually everyone gets the bullet the longer you stay in this game.

Comment ID #6816164025 12/29/2025 04:06 pm

Sam commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

I thought I would check out what is going on for advertisors over at Reddit and I am surprised what I am reading it's full of advertisers reporting awful performance. It seems that one problem is that Google forced everyone onto AI automation that optimizes for whatever converts, but it is not converting to sales so they have been forced into this AI world and can't manually change anything. One guy spent £2.5k and got no conversions. Go have a read. By keeping AI Overviews, Google is teaching users that "AI answers" are the future. But if ChatGPT gives BETTER AI answers, users learn to skip Google and go over there. What a business strategy wow.

Comment ID #6816158591 12/29/2025 03:53 pm

Dark Red Owl commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

It's not just about the money. This attitude speaks of absolutely self-forgetful people, monopolists, total disrespect for the work of thousands of people who have been part of the ecosystem for decades. They break destinies, they behave like assassins.

Comment ID #6816150630 12/29/2025 03:33 pm

Sam commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

It will catch up as Advertisors are struggling to see ROI if you go read the reddit forums. I predict a 70% loss of revenue over Christmas for Google ads. March 2026 after the earnings call they will have to start reducing AI overviews on informational content, the fact is they stopped the "discoverability" of products by removing publishers is what they failed to predict. That is a large chunk of sales and no AI will be able to replicate that shift. I am like 50% revenue down before this last update. I don't even think the income will cover my mortgage. I am in same boat but I know that GOOGLE lost over six figures on my revenue alone, multiply that across millions of websites its not a pretty picture.

Comment ID #6816148611 12/29/2025 03:27 pm

Dark Red Owl commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

I will remember this Christmas for the rest of my life as one of the darkest days of my life. I wish the Google team to have as "happy" holidays as I, my family and my colleagues. I feel sorry for them. These are inhuman creatures. If I hear a young person saying that they will be involved in the Internet, journalism, media, I directly tell them to go to psychiatry. This profession has no future as long as monsters like Google and Facebook exist. Corrupt politicians protect these companies, which are organized criminal groups that must be investigated and arrested.

Comment ID #6816144928 12/29/2025 03:18 pm

RF commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

iGaming results full of hacked domains and expired domain abuse. I’m talking 50% of page 1 results for many terms. Spam and black hat SEO still well and truly beating Google still.

Comment ID #6816142845 12/29/2025 03:13 pm

Logan Mosby commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

No large changes being seen yet....but of course still keeping an eye. Sites across law, eComm, and local service-based businesses. Things are relatively consistent (knock on wood). Will update if I see anything else popping up.

Comment ID #6816141465 12/29/2025 03:10 pm

Hunar commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

I could tell it was done, the day Conversions returned, which was exactly the day after Christmas. Traffic is absolutely terrible still, but at least sales are coming in.

Comment ID #6816135608 12/29/2025 02:55 pm

Dan commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Done Rolling Out

Well... I lost over 90% of my traffic during this core update, impressions tanked, I was wiped from Discover, wiped from News and wiped from Search, clicks are abysmal and remain at their lowest since the site's conception, all coming after years of steady growth, slashed in a matter of hours, Hundreds of active users every 30 minutes to 10, 5 of them bots from China now. Sincerely hope it returns, but wouldn't be holding out hope. This is one tough gig, I'll tell you that. You always know the day is coming, given everyone else's recent experiences, but you always hold out hope you'll survive just one more core update. Hope everyone else made it through.

Comment ID #6816132046 12/29/2025 02:46 pm

SEOwhat commented on Google Calls Some SEO Content, Digital Mulch

Funny, across my industry, the "digital mulch" continues to outrank nearly anything. It STILL seems as if the amount of content vs. quality content matters.

Comment ID #6816083240 12/29/2025 12:53 pm

Corey commented on Google Calls Some SEO Content, Digital Mulch

Kinda ironic that the blog post being referenced talks about how "human writing is more important than ever" and is VERY clearly generated by ChatGPT. It isn't even a good attempt at making something sound human. I'm surprised John even took the time to engage.

Comment ID #6816061464 12/29/2025 12:04 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

And also @codecommander:disqus , Ronnie is all for Congressional limits... "After his faltering 2024 presidential campaign against Trump, DeSantis has tried to rebuild his standing by promoting congressional term limits and aligning himself more closely with key elements of the president’s agenda." Sounds ominous that he's aligning himself more closely with key elements of the president's agenda, wonder what those would be though. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/29/vance-desantis-republican-2028-presidential-contenders">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/29/vance-desantis-republican-2028-presidential-contenders </a> As we've seen with JD, they say one thing in the lead-up and another when they actually take office. I do wonder if the Supreme Court decision on abortion, transferring the decisions back to the individual states, could be applied to Trump's AI Executive Order? I did read the AI regulation he put forward; they were all common-sense rules.

Comment ID #6815987265 12/29/2025 08:53 am

googleisjoke commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

it's good actually because google will entangle themselves into AI reponses, and they will get so confused what's real, that will be the fun!

Comment ID #6815975376 12/29/2025 08:11 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

I don't blame you when that single issue has such a large impact on you and everything else is immaterial.

Comment ID #6815919448 12/29/2025 03:19 am

Sensei commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

Vance totally sold out with his big tech stance prior to the election and secured his position now as just another double-talking establishment bitch. The only chance in hell Vance has beyond this term is if miraculously the economy isn't cooked by 2028. And it's going to take a true fucking miracle at this point for that not to happen due to the rate AI is eliminating jobs, on top of the unaffordability factor of everything in the already shaky economy propped up by smoke and mirrors.

Comment ID #6815847468 12/28/2025 08:07 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

You're right, both parties suck. Too bad in a free country those freedoms, when voting, are restricted to one of two parties most of the time. Vance lost all credibility with me when he called for Google to be broken up before the election then went around Europe campaigning for Google after he became VP. If Vance runs for President and wins the nomination, he definitely doesn't get my vote.

Comment ID #6815842583 12/28/2025 07:47 pm

Sensei commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

True on all points. It's a shitty sense of apathy voting for any of these useless self-serving a55holes at this point, since both parties suck so much. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a2c714d866becc3eb395243779f601aee560be4df6aaa21d8323c1e4c6592239.jpg

Comment ID #6815830500 12/28/2025 07:04 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

Big money sways many, but I think Desantis' political career dwarfs that of Vance who really has none. Maybe Vance shot to the top for being an outsider, but now we see he has no convictions having done an about face about breaking up Google. Desantis, as part of his record, also took Disney on after they vowed to fight his Parental Rights in Education Act. At this point I'm a single issue voter. I will vote for the people who I think will put Google in check. I don't want to see furry's in stores, but if Trump's assault on small businesses continues then few will have money to go to the stores to spend anyway. It's a real dilemma, so I have to vote with my wallet and hold those politicians accountable for the economic harm they have caused me.

Comment ID #6815814757 12/28/2025 06:08 pm

Jantje commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

Reddit is also starting to get flooded with Ai generated posts. I now have to mute dozens of Ai related topics every day in my timeline. This kind of overflow of Ai content seems undesirable for Google as well. Reusing Ai generated content leads to a degradation in quality. For example: photos and videos become increasingly less sharp and start to develop a yellowish tint.

Comment ID #6815756314 12/28/2025 03:15 pm

SEOwhat commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

I have gone back to the very basics. I mean the very, very basics. Nobody knows what the future holds for AI just yet. You cannot optimize for one LLM while the others have varied parameters. A lot of SEO's and Firms out there would like you to believe that they know because they've captured 12 gazillion data points, but it is way too young. The government may end up stepping in, given the obvious pursuance it has with storytelling and seeding. Where is the Terminator when we need him?

Comment ID #6815740246 12/28/2025 02:35 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

I agree, however, BigTech have big pockets compared to non-tech which is a problem. Didn't Trump spend less one year and won so you never know?

Comment ID #6815720883 12/28/2025 01:45 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

My hope is both the Democrat and Republican nominees for President run on a platform to flush the Poop Technocracy down the toilet. But the Presidential election is a long way off, and it looks like Republicans have angered many small business owners/independent voters which will come back to haunt them in 2026.

Comment ID #6815711361 12/28/2025 01:21 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

Good, I guess he gets @disqus_adn8rnagtd:disqus vote as he's in Florida allegedly. It's a start and, hopefully, encourages more. However, as we know, there's a Democrat politician in NY who's against AI, and Peter Thiel and others have set up a fund to push him out at the next election. Ronnie is more well-known, so he's got that in his favour.

Comment ID #6815698840 12/28/2025 12:49 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

I and some others have been tough on Republicans for cowering to Trump, including VP Vance who not too long ago called for Google to be broken up. A more publisher friendly Republican politician is emerging and is actually doing something within his state. I hope he decides to run for President to compete against the traitor Vance. <b>‘We have to reject that with every fiber of our being’: DeSantis emerges as a chief AI skeptic</b> - <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/27/we-have-to-reject-that-with-every-fiber-of-our-being-desantis-emerges-as-a-chief-ai-skeptic-00704333">https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/27/we-have-to-reject-that-with-every-fiber-of-our-being-desantis-emerges-as-a-chief-ai-skeptic-00704333</a> <blockquote>“Let’s not try to act like some type of fake videos or fake songs are going to deliver us to some kind of utopia,” the governor said Dec. 18 during an event in Sebring.</blockquote>

Comment ID #6815690786 12/28/2025 12:26 pm

BeVlone commented on Google December 2025 Core Update Rolling Out

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc444e5b91fcc64f4ce1a663a05b839a89cc7ed0d8e27a47aac8c7e26cc93e45.png My site remained stable for almost two years and consistently grew in traffic. There were no major changes made before this December update. After the rollout, the site experienced a significant drop in traffic across many keywords, both informational and commercial. What stands out is the SERP behavior itself. Rankings are fluctuating more than usual, and results feel less aligned with user intent. In several cases, Facebook posts and social pages are now ranking for informational, service, and even commercial queries, which were previously dominated by relevant websites. Overall, the SERPs feel less consistent, and intent matching appears weaker compared to previous updates.

Comment ID #6815600504 12/28/2025 07:33 am

Sensei commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

Definitely agree the authentic country location should be listed across all main social media platforms. Haha yeah, there's no doubt Bobby's safe space is located in the USA given what an easily triggered political pvssy activist they/them is.

Comment ID #6815462801 12/27/2025 06:14 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

I heard about the deal with Disney. I presume OpenAI is paying with money from its magic Money Tree. Its spending more money than its making, its sure to go bust, worst case of greed possible after Disney. Disney have total disregard for its IP and quality but they are getting money from the deal so they don't really care. With regards to X, I really liked what they did with revealing the locations of the posters. Facebook & Youtube and all the other big influencers should reveal where the posts come from. I should also add Disqus should do the same, most people here reveal their country of origin anyway unless they're your friend Bobby but I think he's American, he talked about states rather than counties which made me think he was US unless that was a false flag to throw us off.

Comment ID #6815457157 12/27/2025 05:50 pm

Sensei commented on Google Search Traffic Drops 25 Points To News Publishers In Two Years

The woke retards at Disney also made the problem worse with their recent deal with Open AI, allowing people to pimp out AI fakes of characters: <a href="https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/super/avengers-doomsday-trailer-real.html">https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/super/avengers-doomsday-trailer-real.html </a> When a teaser for the new Avengers movie dropped last week, you literally couldn't even see a legit trailer on YouTube with the overload of AI slop imitations. The majority of the rest of AI slop videos likely come from spammers from Scumdar's outdoor toilet homeland. One possible idea YouTube can implement to help mitigate the problem is do what X did recently, by automatically labeling the country of origin on all accounts. <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/x-shows-locations-users-about-this-account-2025-11">https://www.businessinsider.com/x-shows-locations-users-about-this-account-2025-11 </a> That way when a channel has a questionable video if it's real or not, checking the channel "about" info and seeing the account is based in a shithole country will at least take away some of the guess work.

Comment ID #6815424098 12/27/2025 03:51 pm

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