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BVB Borusse commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Crazy... my numbers keep going down. Since Saturday, 1/3 of my – already poor – traffic has disappeared. If Google tightens the AI screw even further, I'll eventually end up at zero. But Google is still trying to keep up appearances. I received an email from Google Adsense addressing me as a “valued AdSense publisher.” I was offered a “one-on-one consultation with one of our AdSense experts.” I accepted the offer because my site is now generating around 10% of my previous income. The “consultation” was a complete disaster. It was really just about maximizing the number of ads on my site. They really don't care that you completely destroy websites when you plaster them with ads. I was also told that the “golden era” for publishers was unfortunately over. The gentleman from Google Adsense was well prepared for my question about the disappearance of traffic on my site. He mumbled something about “COVID,” then about “changes to the algorithm”, and finally that there was also the “AI thing.” Unfortunately, all these developments cannot be reversed. That's it, then. There's nothing more to expect from Google. They'll stop at nothing and throw you and your site off the cliff without batting an eyelid.

Comment ID #6800713180 11/24/2025 03:57 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Keir Starmer (doesn't deserve to be referred to as Sir :D ) has been talking up AI, they didn't mention that in their manifesto last year. <a href="https://www.dechert.com/knowledge/onpoint/2024/7/a-new-uk-labour-government--a-fresh-approach-to-ai-regulation.html">https://www.dechert.com/knowledge/onpoint/2024/7/a-new-uk-labour-government--a-fresh-approach-to-ai-regulation.html</a> All politicians are falling over themselves to push AI to be seen as "forward thinking" but none apart from probably fringe parties are actively talking up the negativity about AI. They all think it will increase GDP but at what cost, no one has done any proper analysis apart those classed as Luddites.

Comment ID #6800711125 11/24/2025 03:45 am

nishant gupta commented on Google Ads Disallows Offline Gambling Ads In More Countries

Google missed Nepal

Comment ID #6800655119 11/23/2025 09:33 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

How do you vote against it when both political parties are fleecing citizens? Look at Trump and Vance who were both critical of Google and suggesting Google should be broken up. I voted for that and now Trump and Vance are using the Federal government to protect Google. It's similar on a state level where an economic board recommends subsidies and elected officials sign off on it and blame the economic board if something goes wrong. Look at the $2.3 billion in subsidies for Google <a href="https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/?parent=alphabet-inc&order=sub_year&sort=">https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/?parent=alphabet-inc&order=sub_year&sort=</a> and click on the links to see details of those subsidies. Amazon is much worse at $11 billion in subsidies and this tracker is only updated twice a year I think.

Comment ID #6800652672 11/23/2025 09:21 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

I did hear they are considering space options for their AI. If they send Spamdar to space to get it up and running, with a one way ticket, I'd help subsidize the trip. That CNBC article is butchered. I found two typos in what I quoted (bold below). Then you find more. LOL American journalism at its finest... <blockquote>North American Electric Relibaility Corporation during freezing temperatures like catastropic Winter Storm Uri in 2021</blockquote>

Comment ID #6800636480 11/23/2025 08:11 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Have you heard of the Google Suncatcher project? <a href="https://research.google/blog/exploring-a-space-based-scalable-ai-infrastructure-system-design/">https://research.google/blog/exploring-a-space-based-scalable-ai-infrastructure-system-design/ </a> An alternative to the Earth-bound power stations, up in space and plenty of solar power + cool air.... Surely with what you said, the Government should step in, oh, wait... they would do if they weren't starry eyed and focused on the majority. I see what you mean by the spelling mistake.... "But avalaible power could fall to around 69.7 gigawatts in extreme winter weather, leaving a supply deficit of more than 15 gigawatts."

Comment ID #6800604005 11/23/2025 06:17 pm

Sam commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

If they are getting the Americans to pay for electric then it is corruption at the highest degree. Why are you letting them do this? Your a voter right?

Comment ID #6800595992 11/23/2025 05:52 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Neeva now defunct and if you go to their website, it tries to install a virus.

Comment ID #6800581646 11/23/2025 05:11 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Google just announced a $40 billion investment in Texas datacenters, and power companies are already saying they may have problems keeping the lights on for people in severe weather events. Who cares if granny freezes in her home in winter, or has a heat stroke in summer, so long as Google gets to serve BS AI responses and ads. It's all about priorities. LOL Texas data center expansion raises blackout risk during extreme winter weather - <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/22/texas-data-center-ai-ercot-blackout-power-outage.html?msockid=1ea9c4639cd06f463b76d2ce9dca6eb4">https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/22/texas-data-center-ai-ercot-blackout-power-outage.html?msockid=1ea9c4639cd06f463b76d2ce9dca6eb4</a> <blockquote>The North American Electric Reliability Corporation warned this week that data centers’ round-the-clock energy consumption will make it more difficult to sustain sufficient electricity supply under extreme demand conditions during freezing temperatures like catastrophic Winter Storm Uri in 2021. “Strong load growth from new data centers and other large industrial end users is driving higher winter electricity demand forecasts and contributing to continued risk of supply shortfalls,” NERC said of Texas in an analysis published Tuesday. Texas faces elevated risk during extreme winter weather, but the state’s grid is reliable during normal peak demand, NERC said. </blockquote>Note: I had to correct some typos in the CNBC quote because they can't spell check or used shit for brains AI to write the story.

Comment ID #6800581070 11/23/2025 05:10 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Yikes, 25% , the costs should really even though they don't should be levied on the heavy users. This is why big tech are pushing ahead to readily. If it were the appropriate way, I doubt they'd be so eager.

Comment ID #6800557145 11/23/2025 04:08 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

<blockquote>think they should go pure AI mode for all topics and it will bankrupt them as they can't afford the power.</blockquote>The cost of powering datacenters is spread onto all electric customers. Add on the tax abatements datacenters are getting, and the cost is cheap for Google which is why they are building so many of them. Explained: This is how data centers can lead to higher electric bills - <a href="https://technical.ly/civics/data-centers-impact-electricity-costs/">https://technical.ly/civics/data-centers-impact-electricity-costs/</a>

Comment ID #6800501958 11/23/2025 01:55 pm

Sam commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

I do think it is another fad because people don't like AI but the techs are forcing people to have it. That is never a good starting point. LLMs won't get any better due to no information in the ecosystem. My prediction is that with the new CEO apple will realise they are the doorway to the internet on the devices and create something closed wall that has the old internet and an AI system built in. Why would a website be worth more than the maker of the device? In terms of data centres Apple will just fund there own but they don't need as much as they are all about privacy of the user so it don't matter. I also see them try to buy samsung because they have seen that anti-trust don't seem to matter anymore. And, tech giants can just do as they please. In terms of the ad market I think this will shrink, Google will try to be everything to everyone but they are forgetting they don't OWN the device and in September 2026 the deal with apple is on the table. Maybe even forcing companies to sell through them as an affiliate but these companies will just walk away and go to apple. The ad money will dry up due to Google's enshitification and AI strategy which we all know will fail, they will spend billions and billions and not get any ROI. The only way Google will remain in the market is if they are the best search engine and right now they are just an ad engine. Tiktok will fail as Americans won't want to download the new app and the techs will be really surprised that people won't be forced into stuff. What the big techs are forgetting is the people at the end of the chain who hold the power. I honestly see a world where people are less online due to the messed up world these techs have created.

Comment ID #6800483388 11/23/2025 01:11 pm

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

They've definitely lost their way ever since Eric Schmidt left. Rich Snippets, Images, PAA, all post-Schmidt. They'll end up jacking up advertising costs and passing on due to the energy consumption and advertisers will go, nah thanks. People won't pay for search so they'll and companies won't pay $750 for an advert click.

Comment ID #6800477294 11/23/2025 12:56 pm

Ted (or Big T) commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Yes, now volatility is like real time. Positions changes every 12-24 hours.

Comment ID #6800473029 11/23/2025 12:46 pm

Sam commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

It needs separating completely. It has become an AD engine. The new sponsored links along with AI overviews is pure greed.

Comment ID #6800471070 11/23/2025 12:41 pm

Sam commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

It updates every day in my view. I am done with it, and just think they should go pure AI mode for all topics and it will bankrupt them as they can't afford the power. So just let them remove the 10 links and just do it Google rather than keep publishers with breadcrumbs. That way it will wipe out the entire internet and they can fall, as people will just go to other search engines then. If they want to follow the strategy why are they delaying it. Adsense can be shut down as well, how many webmasters will bother with ADX or adsense with no traffic coming from Google.

Comment ID #6800469905 11/23/2025 12:39 pm

DataDonkey commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

<blockquote>Search is completely dead. And they do this before Black Friday too, so if you were counting on getting any sales there, good luck.</blockquote>Embarrassing to say, but we went two full days without a single sale from Google until this morning. Sales have been coming from other search engines, probably because Google is just a pile of shit. Only good news regarding Google is Judge Brinkema's statement which sounds like she wants to use her remedies to take care of business because she said "time is of the essence." Hopefully her remedies won't be like Judge Meathead's jack shit remedies. I hope Brinkema's remedies hits Google in the wallet hard. If so, she will have earned my respect with the first HCU (Helpful Court Update) ruling in US Courts against the Google Crime Syndicate. Judge in Google ad tech case seeks quick fix for web giant's monopolies - <a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-aims-dodge-breakup-ad-business-antitrust-trial-wraps-2025-11-21/">https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-aims-dodge-breakup-ad-business-antitrust-trial-wraps-2025-11-21/</a> <blockquote>The U.S. judge considering whether to order a breakup of Google's advertising technology business asked the Department of Justice on Friday how quickly such a remedy would take effect, saying, "time is of the essence."</blockquote>

Comment ID #6800405943 11/23/2025 10:01 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

I just re-read Barry's article, didn't know you could do that with an NBP. People are asking "Can we do it?" instead of "Should we do it? " or / What are the consequences?". They'll find out the consequences soon enough.

Comment ID #6800391344 11/23/2025 09:20 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bd08372b0a99ac015efec01548b2409b6a6cff9ee8796da6f9e6f3c234d59c0.png Copyright Barry ofc... I see so many search engines created and die, I expect some were because they couldn't get the exposure due to defaults and contracts from Google. I'm sure more will disappear in the coming months. Qwant, the French SE, despite the image above, is still going. I think it uses Bing data and has a straightforward interface, though some images and videos slip through. I wonder how many will still be here in five years.

Comment ID #6800390463 11/23/2025 09:17 am

Golden Phoenix commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

did you see Nano Banana Pro? You can scan your homework and it will give you the answer, so you can print it. We also have studies that show Shorts are making people d*mber. I think those of us who keep our brains sharp may get ahead in 10 years as everyone else will be over reliant on AI. The challenge is to make it 10 more years in this environment with no jobs and no opportunities.

Comment ID #6800372209 11/23/2025 08:21 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Correctomundo, AI is being used for medical research and thats one of the best things for it. Using it to churn out AI slop like "Yorkshire Humour" or stealing content for coursework is not a very good use. Article some weeks ago was saying below average intelligence children were now copying AI coursework and handing them in. They're not learning, they're cheating themselves and when it comes to work, well, there won't be any work, AI will have taken it anyway. What real advantage to Google/Bing etc are AI Overviews.

Comment ID #6800365977 11/23/2025 07:58 am

Golden Phoenix commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

The technology has a potential to do so much good but if these guys were not greedy, they would reward people who helped their AI instead of just stealing

Comment ID #6800351261 11/23/2025 06:55 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Shame :(

Comment ID #6800345840 11/23/2025 06:30 am

Vadervolis commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Speaking of 3D, Abxolute has launched a new 3D handheld gaming PC, and everyone's going crazy about it.

Comment ID #6800341527 11/23/2025 06:09 am

Golden Phoenix commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Volatility is crazy. Not that matters in the big picture but I see even more Reddit pages, more nonsense. Search is completely dead. And they do this before Black Friday too, so if you were counting on getting any sales there, good luck. The volatility reminds of the crazy times we had a couple of years ago. It's just constantly moving

Comment ID #6800335290 11/23/2025 05:37 am

Golden Phoenix commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

Doubt it. AI hallucinates but it also can code, it can still create images, all based on training that is really theft. 3D TVs needed glasses, there were a bunch of issues. AI is not going away unfortunately.

Comment ID #6800334307 11/23/2025 05:32 am

John A. User commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

If you look at your AdSense account, you'll probably see that you get 0.001 for an advert or something like that. Then, when you hear about a carpet company being charged $725 per click, you realise just how much Google is geared toward showing all ads on its site, where it can charge an extortionate amount. As @DataDonkey says, it's not hurting Google because they are making record-breaking profits. As someone pointed out from the Mehta case, they want to make the results bad so people keep clicking and searching until they eventually click on an ad. Yesterday, I did a search and the top result was a Wikipedia page with just one mention of the keyword whereas my page was second which had everything. Whats the chances of a searcher not looking at the second result and viewing the wasteful first result and then going puh and not bothering with the second result. Yes, it was an obscure search but its just an example that could be replicated across the internet.

Comment ID #6800306590 11/23/2025 02:35 am

snuffy commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

It looks good so far. Good luck!

Comment ID #6800271975 11/22/2025 10:34 pm

googleisjoke commented on Google Search Ranking Algorithm Volatility - A Gemini 3 Update

it's an experiment, I will see how it goes

Comment ID #6800202494 11/22/2025 06:07 pm

sanjuro commented on Google Clarifies Nesting In Reviews & Aggregate Ratings

I've had some strange issues with review snippet this week. Google must have updated more than the documentation. Suddenly, all my snippets have been deactivated with the following error: "Invalid object type for field "<parent_node>"". I had no problem until then. It made no sense but to fix this error I had to change the type of the review from "CriticReview" to "Game", even though it also had an itemReviewed property inside. I'm quite sure this is erroneous but it was accepted as valid. I'm pretty sure the next update is going to detect it as invalid and I'll have to change it back again. In addition, even though all my pages use the same structured data, one of them returned this error: "Unrecognized field "itemReviewed"". Bemusing.

Comment ID #6800198230 11/22/2025 05:53 pm

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