The sandbox effect

Apr 25, 2004 • 7:43 pm | comments (11) by twitter | Filed Under Google Search Engine Optimization
 

http://forums.seochat.com/t9919/s.html,

This post at that other forum, a long time ago stuck in my head, considering the source was G man himself. I heard that at PubCon, DaveN suggested that Google should only update the visible PR and link: data once a quarter or so... thatotherforum/forum3/22566.htm

Now I hadnt given it much thought until recently when a few clients of mine went out and purchased thousands of back links, and within 1-2 months were at a PR 8 for a new domain 2-3 months old. Now the situation: (And no Im not going to post the domain dont want a million link request coming in because of the PR but take my word for it, the site is well written, decently SEOd (Completely SE Friendly from inception and just needs tweaking) and has more back links then anyone in its field. Also Its field has hundreds of thousands if not millions of searches combined for its main keywords so a well ranked site would get tons of traffic, however this site is getting some 60 uniques per day from Google60!

There are thousands of pages in the domain all targeting different terms and Like I said its a PR 8 so even with the slightest hint of SE friendliness (Which is not overdone btw density is like 1-5 % in most cases) they should by all rights ROCK EVERYONE!

So whats the problem? Some good friends of mine and I have been tossing around the idea of the sandbox effect. Basically it states that PR and back link (pure link popularity) credit is placed in a reserve for a period of time say 2-4 months before it is applied to ranking and has an effect. The theory behind this is to combat PR purchasers from Google bombing, jumping into a field and dominating right off the bat. If PR appears to not be working people will stop buying it. If people stop buying page rank then its original purpose gains validity again. But instead of having to dump it because of abuse wait till people realize its no longer useful just put a delay on its effect and people will think it no longer counts and those spending thousands abusing it will quickly realize after 1-2 months of no benefit that it no longer works and move on.

Pretty sneaky and rather effective I think, however I cant prove or disprove at this point I just wanted to put it to your attention for discussion. Also please realize I do not subscribe to this theory although it supported by a few hundred observed instances of the same phenomenon.

I would love to hear members comments on this situation and its implications, evidence to support but also evidence to refute its existence. Situations, examples etc also if anyone has access to any articles, forum posts, discussion groups etc pertaining to this phenomenon I would love for your to share, I am anxious to put this theory to bed either proved or disproved. Cheers

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Comments:

Betty Bo

04/28/2005 08:49 am

Just be surfing around in net. I definitely found a very informal place with a lot of good stuff for everybody. I will certainly visit your site again sometime. Really good work.

Richard

10/03/2005 04:36 pm

www.milliondollarhomepage.com.au seems to destroy the sandbox concept .. only been online for just over a week a showing in all searches!

allbatman

03/09/2007 05:49 pm

Thank you for all your information on this issue. One of my sites dropped from google almost as soon as i set it up! and now it ranks very badly.

Advokat

06/26/2007 11:09 am

My site has dropped... From 2nd place on certain keywords to 100+ in just a week.

Milos Pesic

07/21/2007 12:57 am

My site is 2 months old and is nowhere to be seen on Google. I get spidered and indexed every day, I am building web 2.0 backlinks, using article marketing, directory submission, link exchanges...I am also writing new posts on a daily basis, sometimes even twice daily...and still nothing. I cannot rank for the least competitive of keywords.

köpa tv

12/04/2007 03:11 pm

Well, has anyone got a solution to the problem?

No Name

04/22/2008 08:31 am

seems to destroy the sandbox concept .. only been online for just over a week a showing in all searches!

No Name

04/22/2008 08:33 am

has anyone got a solution to the problem?

No Name

09/21/2008 04:21 am

My suggestion is be patient. If you are not, you may start AdWords campaign and when organic search results pick up, you may stop AdWords.

Legolas

09/22/2008 10:46 am

Yap, patient is everything! If you overload you site with posts or links from the very begging, the same site will appear on google after much longer time. I had those problems and I think that only for strong keywords, which are build longer then two years ago, site must be in sandbox.

Evadaily

03/15/2011 01:42 am

This is not the answer, you can search "The sandbox effect" and you will not find this article (from 2004) "Quality of content's" Google know who is the best

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