Matt Cutts On Google Panda 2.2 Update

Jun 10, 2011 • 8:56 am | comments (17) by twitter Google+ | Filed Under Google PageRank & Algorithm Updates
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Google Panda Update 2.2Before I went offline for two days, I wrote about a possible Google Panda 2.2 update - officially the update was not released yet, but Matt Cutts said it is coming soon.

This came out of SMX with "You & A" keynote with Google's Matt Cutts. Search Engine Land and Outspoken Media are the two main blogs being cited, but Matt McGee has a summary of it all as well.

The main thing I have been pushing for a couple months now is that no one has recovered from Panda and that question was indeed addressed.

DS: You guys made this post with 22 questions, but it sounds like you’re saying even if you’ve done that, it wouldn’t have helped yet?

MC: It could help as we recompute data. Matt goes on to say that Panda 2.2 has been approved but hasn’t rolled out yet.

Has the algorithm changed enough where some people have actually recovered from Panda?

If you go back to Florida (the update, not the state), it launched and had a big impact, and then they pulled that back. They push stuff out and then they find additional signals to help differentiate on that spectrum. He hears the pain from people in search, but he also hears complaints about things polluting the search results. They haven’t done any official changes (though they did a few tweaks) to pull things back but they continue to look at ways to differentiate there. They’re still looking for ways to find more of the low quality sites

DS: Has it changed enough that some people have recovered? Or is it too soon?

MC: The general rule is to push stuff out and then find additional signals to help differentiate on the spectrum. We haven’t done any pushes that would directly pull things back. We have recomputed data that might have impacted some sites. There’s one change that might affect sites and pull things back.

Yes, this is a manually run algorithm and with only 2 updates to the update, no recoveries have been marked. Will 2.2 reverse that, I am not sure but time will tell.

So in short, 2.2 is not out yet - I am not sure what that hiccup was. When it comes out, it might address more of the scraper sites out there but no idea if it will reverse some of the false positives.

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Comments:

Mike

06/10/2011 01:45 pm

Well, update or not, two of my sites got hit exactly at the beginning of this week and lost 70% of their google traffic. All big sites with decent links, one older and one built at the beginning of this year. Both attracted natural links last week during computex. So there was something going on at the beginning of this week. Hopefully once they push this new update thing will get back to normal, but who knows

Guest

06/10/2011 02:17 pm

Hey Barry, did you notice the lies from Google? Even if your site is now perfect (forget those that didn't change much) no recovery. All this time they have been beating the drums 'fix your sites, do this, do that and you will come back.' If the site is fixed, why do you need a tweak of Panda to come back? You don't but this is just more nonsense to buy time. They have not run Panda again

Liv Jones

06/10/2011 03:16 pm

I shall light a candle at church everyday and pray for the day our 2.2 returns to save us from evil.

Lior Cohen

06/10/2011 04:08 pm

An interesting question for WMW might be good here too: Are you ready for the Panda tweak? Did you perform the corrective/preventive actions? It is interesting to learn how many of those who got hit by one of the Panda’s have followed some corrective actions since, such as: Improving site structure, deleting low quality (thin) pages, improving performance (speed, BR etc), editing description meta tags, editing pages, focusing on user interaction, ringing the social networks or reducing # of ads per page. Are you ready for the upcoming Panda tweak or Panda re-tweak? It is also interesting to know if those who were affect by the Panda’s are still continuing to add content to their website or spooked since. How does Google get new content from a pandalized website? Is it indexed and ranked as before panda content? Is their ‘fresh/new content’ ranking the same as the new content ranked before Panda? Is pandalized website treated as penalized website by Google (well, in a way)?

Dan

06/10/2011 07:23 pm

One of my sites that was impacted by the International Panda update rebounded by 70% overnight and increased traffic by almost 2,000 visitors in just a couple days as of June 5th.  Would love to show you data...  catch me on twitter @dhinckley:twitter 

Dan

06/10/2011 07:39 pm

I think there was an update.. a site of mine that was hit with the International Panda update started to get  its google traffic and rankings back.  2,200 additional visitors a day since Monday June 5th. 

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06/10/2011 08:43 pm

I would definitely like to see this examined in further detail.

Barry Schwartz

06/10/2011 08:44 pm

You should write a term paper on it. :)

2456

06/12/2011 05:54 am

It is interesting to learn how many of those who got hit by one of the Panda’s have followed some corrective actions since, such as: Improving site structure, deleting low quality (thin) pages, improving performance (speed, BR etc), editing description meta tags, editing pages, focusing on user interaction, ringing the social networks or reducing # of ads per page.Are you ready for the upcoming Panda tweak or Panda re-tweak? It is also interesting to know if those who were affect by the Panda’s are still continuing to add content to their website or spooked since. http://www.raybansunglasses.uk.com/

Guest

06/12/2011 06:09 am

Dan, still improved? There was a back and forth in traffic for a few days. But yeah, Google is screwing a bunch of people really good and keeps giving false hope with their lies.

Webstats Art

06/12/2011 01:51 pm

Hello people in the land of the living.  Someone I know got hit bad by Panda and so he removed half the content from the index page so that it became skinnier. The site is now recovering.  We all owe him a beer for teaching us how to optimize for Panda.. LOL!.

Charter Bus VA

06/13/2011 06:58 am

One of the bigger pieces of news — certainly for webmasters and SEOs — from our SMC Advanced Conference this week is that Google will soon be releasing version 2.2 of the Panda algorithm update. Google’s Matt Cutts confirmed that during Tuesday’s keynote question-and-answer session with Danny Sullivan. Cutts said that the update has been approved, hasn’t been rolled out yet, but that should happen soon. Improved Scraper Detection The next update will target a common webmaster complaint related to the original Panda/Farmer update: sites that scrape and re-publish content and are out-ranking the original source of the content. “A change has been approved that should help with that issue,” Cutts said. He also reiterated some previous Panda-related information: Google will continue to tweak and update the Panda algorithm.There’s no exact date yet for when Panda will launch fully beyond English language searches  

Ricky

06/13/2011 08:28 am

Even one of newest site has lost 99% traffic...this is really sad

Koozai Mike

06/13/2011 09:20 am

Quite surprising to hear that they haven't made any manual changes to make things better for people, especially given some of the huge sites hit that didn't seem to be penalised (such as review aggregators).

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06/13/2011 11:25 am

amazing) thanks a lot! apprecite  your efforts!

Asd

06/17/2011 03:51 pm

it is rolled out. 

DJ

07/05/2011 09:43 pm

I hope your 'resume help' is more beneficial than your spammy blog comments.

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