RECENT COMMENTS ON SEARCH ENGINE ROUNDTABLE
Below are the most recent 30 comments. I try to keep it clean of comment spam, but some times things get through and it takes me several hours to get to it. So please excuse any of that comment spam.
Comment ID #907495455 at 05/24/2013 08:23 pm:
GuruOfBacklinks commented on Google's Penguin Update Coming In Weeks: Update 4 Version 2.0
Actually, I have to disagree with that statement. I don't think that Google counts every method of link building as black hat. Actions such as thoughtful commenting on relevant blogs or in related forum discussions can generate backlinks. However, these actions alone aren't considered black hat. What is considered black hat is when webmasters decide to use more automated means of generating backlinks. They then become meaningless and little more than spam. The link building becomes more about manipulating search engine rankings and not as much about building relationships with other webmasters and proving oneself as an expert in one's chosen field. There are many legitimate ways to build backlinks. The thing is that those methods often take a lot of time, effort and consistency. Most webmasters these days want instant gratification. They don't want to put in the time or effort it takes to build relationships, create high-quality content or prove themselves as experts in their fields. It's that impatience that has caused the problem, and that's what the search engines look to nip in the bud with all of their algorithm updates.
Comment ID #907447700 at 05/24/2013 07:17 pm:
Anti-SEO commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Even these guys finally understood, that they need another skills ) http://www.digitalgossips.com/2013/05/is-seo-dying-yes-it-is.html
Comment ID #907409369 at 05/24/2013 06:28 pm:
Anti-SEO commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
As usual ... veterinarians, writers, designers, sellers, housewives ... everyone knows how the web business should be run. Now two real estate agents somehow decided, that, being a licensed agents, they can also succeed in web development. Guys, try to understand - web development is ANOTHER BUSINESS. It requires ANOTHER SKILLS. You can't succeed in both. That's why you can't understand why these websites are on top. You just don't have appropriate skills. Be good realtor. Forget about the business you have no any clue about. It was possible to run both businesses earlier. But this time is gone.
Comment ID #907405355 at 05/24/2013 06:23 pm:
Tourist-Destinations.com commented on Google Improves Google Publisher Toolbar (AdSense Earnings)
Exactly, i don't know if it is some kind of bug, but it is so annoying. Liked the older one better.
Comment ID #907383210 at 05/24/2013 05:57 pm:
DaveKeys commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
From the get go, I presumed that "deeper" meant that G would look at where links were coming from and what the links to those links looked like too, ie. link pyramids or linkwheels, etc. If you've got some "kosher" links to your website, but they're supported by not so great links, these "first line of defense" links would then lose a lot of their oomph.
Comment ID #907362029 at 05/24/2013 05:28 pm:
shahinul commented on Google Says Website Submissions Service Can Hurt Your Web Site
i want to indexing http://www.MarketA2Z.com. what should i do? suggest me please
Comment ID #907339716 at 05/24/2013 04:57 pm:
Mike Wade commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Hi Graham, Well, no I am not just a mortgage guy. I sold property too and still try :) in this sellers market which is the most ridiculous I have ever seen. 35 offers or more within hours. Even industry people cannot buy let alone their clients. Yes, you are correct Trulia and Zillow's info is not accurate when it comes to active, pending, or back-up. The sales history is a good function and the Q&A part. I would also be glad to see some restrictions of how they advertise. Do we see a Bear Stearns type-collapse with these sites later. I am surprised Realtor.com let them bypass them. It seems there would be more of a fight since as far as I know, they are not licensed in all 50 states yet have homeowner listings. You know the wealthy $10M homeowners don't want their home listed on Zillow, just Sothebys.
Comment ID #907315192 at 05/24/2013 04:27 pm:
Jack SEO Consultant - Eemes commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Welcome to PENGUIN2.0! Hey barry i had initially given 2 dates if you remember when google will release its algo. I had said May 23rd and May 29 :) My judgement has come true! I knew this very well ahead, its coming. Now you see in the coming weeks say 15 days later you will find many drops in rankings, becz those sites who have heavily depend on LINK NETWORKS will face huge drop in rankings. Google has slapped the Link network community hard this time. Google has targeted the BACKLINKS Arena! However this time Penguin2.0 is very interesting.
Comment ID #907314451 at 05/24/2013 04:26 pm:
Fedor commented on Google Improves Google Publisher Toolbar (AdSense Earnings)
I hate it, I thought the older gave a more in-dept summary. Now I have to login and re-approve over and over every time. Old one I just approved once and it was good to go.
Comment ID #907311241 at 05/24/2013 04:23 pm:
Rob Lance commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Look at the simple term "loans". In the top 4 pages of results, the same network of sites, with fake 4.8 star reviews occupy about 10 positions. Absolutely ridiculous.
Comment ID #907310736 at 05/24/2013 04:23 pm:
Fedor commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
Probably just means they are using more signals.
Comment ID #907300914 at 05/24/2013 04:13 pm:
Fedor commented on Google Gives Nod Of Approval To Modify AdSense Code In Some Situations
So basically they're allowing conditional statement in their snippets. This isn't any different from doing in the backend only slowing things down and making the frontend code look messy. The minification part is a joke, that show_ads.js script takes longer to load than most pages so removing a line or two will do almost nothing in comparison to optimizing show_ads.js. Isn't adding conditionals working against the whole minification thing they are trying to sell here? Whatever.
Comment ID #907284224 at 05/24/2013 03:58 pm:
Fedor commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
I'm sure you could go deeper with it.
Comment ID #907271102 at 05/24/2013 03:46 pm:
pissed commented on How Much Effort Will Google Spend Trying To Help One Webmaster?
it is time i let you know just how moronic google has become ... i used gmail while i was in brazil and once i came home i looked at my gmail suddenly my google homepage changed to Portuguese and it's not even the same pc it is high time i leave google, i'm so pissed i can't see straight, what a pos
Comment ID #907244133 at 05/24/2013 03:22 pm:
Graham Ginsberg commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Mike, you're likely not familiar with the real estate field (looks like you're a mortgage guy). Local agents pay for DIRECT feeds to the source and update their site every few minutes while advertising sites generally do it usually much less frequently. That is the first point why RETS feed agent sites are far superior to advertising sites. The info is fresh and reliable. In an aggressive market, as we have in my area, getting a contract in before your competition is key or you lose out. Another point is most people are looking for inventory or looking what has sold in an area. They are not looking to chat with an agent. You can add Zopim chat to your site and it will scare people away more than engage them. And yet another point....Most sellers of real estate do not want comments around their properties (blog comments), and for good reason, its not professional and if not monitored can lead to legal issues. Its just a matter of time before those advertising sites will be stripped of inventory and remain blogging real estate sites, which is fine with me. If you are not an active agent in a particular state, you have no business trying to advertise property, unless the seller put it there themselves. We, as licensed agents with the state are monitored and work under laws of the profession. What profession does zillow and trulia fall under? If you objected to how your property was shown, who wold the consumer file against? You cannot compare a professional real estate website to an advertising website that is primarily for blogging.
Comment ID #907193618 at 05/24/2013 02:36 pm:
Mike Wade commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
They advertise but do give you transaction dates on properties and estimates of value. Local real estate professionals being shut out? C'mon that's whee you are mistaken. They thrive with 1000s of discussions with agents and mortgage people talking to prospects who have questions. But since those 3 sites are on the stock market you know there were behind the scenes talks of how to just show them. But again, they are huge in social media, Don't overlook that aspect.
Comment ID #907189080 at 05/24/2013 02:32 pm:
Cesar Bielich commented on SEOs: Only 6% Fully Recovered From Google's Penguin Update
lol It still ranks very high for some of the main keywords, it just lost a couple others so no way :)
Comment ID #907169278 at 05/24/2013 02:15 pm:
ethalon commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
Barry used to do it that way, but he kept breaking the keyboard. When the tab le finally gave way he realized that there had to be another way.
Comment ID #907159013 at 05/24/2013 02:05 pm:
Amit commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
I noticed a huge drop in traffic from approx 1-2 weeks ago, I was getting around 1500 hits a day and now it's dropped to around 600. I just have a small self help blog that I've had going for around 7.5 years. It's never nice when your site takes that kind of hit :-(
Comment ID #907132850 at 05/24/2013 01:42 pm:
Jeb commented on May 22 Bing Search Update?
Yes, i noticed some slight changes (to the better :) )
Comment ID #907129381 at 05/24/2013 01:38 pm:
Josh commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
I disagree. I saw movement and many notices sent out 1-2 weeks prior to the official launch date of Penguin 2 (4.0) - same as I saw in Penguin 1.0 April 2012. They were doing something before and testing it (as it appears) before they pushed the little red button. I strongly believe that elements of Penguin are pushed out before they claim.
Comment ID #907073149 at 05/24/2013 12:46 pm:
ericlewissv commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
@vedtiwari:disqus there are lots of EMD's are ranking in search results.
Comment ID #907073051 at 05/24/2013 12:46 pm:
Ben Pfeiffer commented on Can You Really Recover From Google's Penguin Update?
People are still reviewing the data and it will take a couple days to fully understand the full impact of Penguin 2.0. That being said, I think the telling "lack of" anything positive in terms of recoveries is pretty telling. We do see lots of reports of websites dropping but nothing significant in terms of recoveries. It looks like my post above was pretty accurate way early. I do hope I am wrong and we see more positive stories emerge soon.
Comment ID #907042879 at 05/24/2013 12:13 pm:
Barry Schwartz commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
A couple weeks before this update? :) Then it wasn't Penguin. It was something else.
Comment ID #907042149 at 05/24/2013 12:12 pm:
Graham Ginsberg commented on Google Penguin 2.0 Version # 4 Is Now Live
Staphane how did you manage to get your "Penguin penalty revoked"??
Comment ID #907030902 at 05/24/2013 12:00 pm:
Guest commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
Some people still think that writing long stories is a novel idea.
Comment ID #907011795 at 05/24/2013 11:39 am:
Mark Daoust commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
I've reviewed dozens of websites that were impacted by Penguin 1.0. The first penguin was *definitely* not just the homepage. It was usually the whole site or entire sections of a site. The signature was pretty easy to tell...
Comment ID #907002187 at 05/24/2013 11:29 am:
lols commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
you could, but it would have to be a short article
Comment ID #907001210 at 05/24/2013 11:28 am:
Tara Dee West commented on How Much Effort Will Google Spend Trying To Help One Webmaster?
Google often come across as a giant faceless corporation but things like this give you faith!

Comment ID #907512196 at 05/24/2013 08:44 pm:
Michael Martinez commented on Google's Penguin Update & The Confusion On Going "Deep"
Barry, I love you just for putting up with all the crap that you endure.