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Comment ID #1510335943 at 07/29/2014 12:28 pm:

ryantoms commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

I think that is part of the reason why Google push 5-6 updates out at once. Why make it easy? :)

Comment ID #1510323199 at 07/29/2014 12:20 pm:

William Harvey commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

Are these SEO experts talking about Penguin recovery within a couple of months or some other algorithmic penalty? Like I said, they may be held back from other algorithms as mentioned before and see a positive movements from using the disavow, but I'm yet to see any Penguin recovery this side of the last refresh. This is why there is so much talk about it, it's people wanting to be released and not the opposite of wanting a refresh to see if they may be hit. Most sites that are held back have had to remove all the links they SERPs benefited from previously, so when Penguin refreshes, most site owners will not see their sites climb to their previous rankings. Most will probably sit close to where they are now but free to continue their marketing efforts.

Comment ID #1510317242 at 07/29/2014 12:16 pm:

Yo Mamma commented on Link Building Poll: Are All Link Building Efforts Google Spam?

The question was:please say if you link from other sites to your money site? Is it you placing the follow links or others? No quantity was asked and pls, answering a question with a question is a Jewish thing. Martinez? Jewish, I think not

Comment ID #1510306844 at 07/29/2014 12:10 pm:

James commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

"It's not our fault that Google has an extreme monopoly." That's not true really. "We", being part of the general population, several years ago, collectively decided Google's search results were the best. So good in fact, that Google was able to achieve its imperfect monopoly position.

Comment ID #1510303948 at 07/29/2014 12:08 pm:

Dave Fogel commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

All it would take is a simple message from Google saying "We have processed your disavow file" for you to know why something happens. Without any actual notification that they have ever even read your file, I find the disavow file more annoying than helpful. Nonetheless, I still do it.

Comment ID #1510300605 at 07/29/2014 12:06 pm:

James commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

A site being hacked is nothing to do with internet marketing. It is because their security was not good enough and a bot got in and did the nasty stuff. This is unlikely to be the actions of a competitor, it's the actions of a bot controlled by a spammer. They will infect any unsecured site.

Comment ID #1510289874 at 07/29/2014 11:58 am:

Michael Martinez commented on Google Domains Invites Begin

Can't wait to see the first SEO accuse Google of using this registration data to track down his network.

Comment ID #1510287270 at 07/29/2014 11:57 am:

Chris Sanfilippo commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

Yeah it's a war zone out there. Too many people think internet marketing is all about happy content marketing and "engaging" with your audience. The reality is that there is money on the table and because of that, bad things can and will happen to good businesses. Ignoring the enemies tactics will leave you wide open for total destruction. Your best chance of survival is to study the enemies weapons and prepare a plan of action in case of the worst case scenario. Last week I had to help a local business who's site displayed "this site may be hacked" in the SERPs. Their site got hacked and stuffed with Viagra links. Luckily they contact me right away and got it cleaned up, otherwise their #1 ranking would have plummeted.

Comment ID #1510281512 at 07/29/2014 11:53 am:

Sean Hecking commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

So true. Its a bigger risk to do nothing. Disavow is not a time machine, as some business owners may think. Also important to note: you don't "get your rankings back" by submitting a disavow. New quality links must be created to take the place of those spam links.

Comment ID #1510277341 at 07/29/2014 11:50 am:

Michael Feiman commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Damn Barry, it was just a suggestion. No reason to get all defensive.

Comment ID #1510276266 at 07/29/2014 11:49 am:

Sean Hecking commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Marie - I think the normal reaction to dips is "Google's fault". What people don't understand is how complex the algo is and the timing of updates is important. Don't push 5 or 6 updates out at once, otherwise its hard to know what change caused the issue.

Comment ID #1510275632 at 07/29/2014 11:49 am:

John Kinskey commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

Thank you for your reply. The frustration is that with no manual penalty and merely submitting a disavow there is no feedback loop from Google. No acknowledgement, no status. A lot of the discussion on this post leads one to believe there is absolutely no chance of relief from an algorithmic penalty until Penguin re-runs YET I have heard some of the leading, best known names in the SEO industry claim algorithmic recovery can happen within a few months of submitting a disavow (again, even if one has not received a manual penalty). Seems like it has to be one way or the other, not both. It would seem logical to me that Google would run disavows within the current context vs. wait for one gigantic re-run.

Comment ID #1510263009 at 07/29/2014 11:40 am:

Barry Schwartz commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Deal

Comment ID #1510262329 at 07/29/2014 11:40 am:

Andy commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Be more honest with your titles and I might just come through =)

Comment ID #1510261219 at 07/29/2014 11:39 am:

Barry Schwartz commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Sure. That would be nice.

Comment ID #1510259651 at 07/29/2014 11:38 am:

Andy commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Would you like flowers, chocolates and a hug too? =)

Comment ID #1510257636 at 07/29/2014 11:37 am:

Barry Schwartz commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

You never chime in when you like my titles. I need positive reinforcement.

Comment ID #1510255603 at 07/29/2014 11:35 am:

Andy commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

But the title was your choice, so why mislead people? You're part of the reason people are not reading newspapers any more.

Comment ID #1510251597 at 07/29/2014 11:33 am:

Barry Schwartz commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

I quoted this guys complaint. I cover discussion forums.

Comment ID #1510249114 at 07/29/2014 11:31 am:

Andy commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

You need your eyes checking then Barry. You say one thing in the title but in fact it was something else that killed his site, so you're deliberately misleading people.

Comment ID #1510237358 at 07/29/2014 11:23 am:

William Harvey commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

A manual penalty is where a Google employee has reviewed your links and penalised the site. A penguin penalty is algorithmic (decided by servers) with no human input. So linkdetox are probably claiming this based on a manual penalty as you can file a reconsideration and ask a human to review and release the penalty. If linkdetox are claiming to have released a site from penguin by using their services this side of the last penguin refresh, then treat that with caution. Penguin needs time to crawl the links in the disavow file and then you need to wait for an update. There has been cases where companies have removed all bad links whilst not in a penalty and updated the disavow and seen positive movements on the back of it. Why, i'm not 100% sure but probably down to semantics or Authority.

Comment ID #1510232329 at 07/29/2014 11:20 am:

Chris commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

Watashi, Are you coming out and admitting that Google is running a monopoly? Are you saying that people should completely ignore Google when they are trying to run an online ecommerce business? If you have any common since you would know that without the traffic from Google your business would not be 1/2 as successful if you did have traffic from Google. The fact is that there are thousands of people and small businesses that have been put under by the "Zoo Animals" There is no clear direction from Google on how to optimize your site. There is no clear path in WMT for you to fix issues they see. (NO FREE TRAFFIC) Plain and simple Google does not want to give away FREE traffic to companies that benefit from it. They want them to use Adwords and pay for it. The big problem Google does not see or maybe they are starting to is #1 The fact that smaller businesses can not pay for Adwords. (They don't care) #2 small to medium sized small businesses used Adwords to regain traffic and then had to pull out because it does not return enough ROI #3 Medium to Large sized small businesses have used every bit of money they had in the coffers to pay for Adwords to keep sales going. But that is going to come to an end. Then Google will feel the real pain losing those customers for good. Example: I currently spend around $40,000 per month in Adwords. you multiply that by 10,000 businesses and you get $400,000,000 or 100,000 businesses and you get $4,000,000,000. As these companies start to pull back their Adwords and move their budgets to advertise on Facebook, Twitter, Bing, and others Google is the one who is going to see the decline in their revenue. This will not happen overnight it will take time for this to happen to Google and they know it. Just what do you think the gross profit margin is for Adwords? There is very little cost for Google to run the Adwords program as a percentage to what they bring in from it my estimate around 60 Billion in revenue in 2014 just from Adwords. My guess Google is going to hit around $14 Billion in net profit this year 2014 as a total company. You start to take away Ad revenue from Google because these companies can not afford it anymore and Google has a problem. Me personally I do not mind spending the money on Adwords as long as I also have Organic rankings to go along with it. Without the organic rankings a lot of companies simply can not afford to pay for Adwords anymore. While Google keeps coming out with record profit #'s this will eventually change and the percentage will slowly start to fall for them. We have already started to cut back on Google because of this and have started to slowly shift to Bing and Facebook where we are actually seeing a much better return on our investment. So YES Watashi while we live in a capitalist country please remember that Google also has competitors. When Bing gets organized and Facebook launches SEARCH Google is going to have big problems.

Comment ID #1510216816 at 07/29/2014 11:11 am:

Jamo commented on 300 Days Later, Still No Google Penguin Update

I find Linkdetox to be boring. They scream to the high heavens about their deep dives and IMO they are nothing more than a dog and pony show. I think they are more interested in selling their services so they may over-dramatize things.

Comment ID #1510189073 at 07/29/2014 11:02 am:

Robert Fisher commented on Law Firm Sues SEO Company Violating Google's Guidelines

You are obviously a superior SEO expert or a poor reader.

Comment ID #1510132411 at 07/29/2014 10:48 am:

WebDevHere commented on 50% Chance Of Right To Be Forgotten Form To Result In A Google Take Down

If the page has been removed from Google because of this "right to be forgotten", how do you think should I delete this page completely from the website? What would be your opinion?

Comment ID #1510102605 at 07/29/2014 10:42 am:

WebDevHere commented on Are Google's Algorithms Global & The Same Worldwide?

I totally agree. From my experience I can say that google algorithms even differs in continents (for example, all the updates are rolled last in Africa and South America). I might be wrong, but this is what I have noticed.

Comment ID #1510102097 at 07/29/2014 10:42 am:

ryantoms commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Great spot Marie, sounds like much more of a likely candidate for the site's issues! :)

Comment ID #1510088425 at 07/29/2014 10:40 am:

Marie Haynes commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Soooo....if you read through the post on the Google Forums it turns out that not only did he file a disavow but he also did an entire site redesign...with different urls. That'll definitely affect your rankings. Plus, the new site has something funky going on where he has javascript rendering all of the text above the fold. I tried to copy and paste some text (to look for a duplicate site perhaps) and couldn't copy it. It's possible that Googlebot can't see any text either. He could be affected by the above-the-fold page layout algo or possibly Panda. This drop is very unlikely to be because of the disavow tool.

Comment ID #1510062632 at 07/29/2014 10:35 am:

BBEX Ninja commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

I agree. I like to run it through a tool to get a "second opinion" and then I go in and check link-by-link. In cases where the domain is something like freelinks4u dot com or hindustanlink dot com, then I know it's trash, and I won't waste time checking that. :D

Comment ID #1510045333 at 07/29/2014 10:32 am:

James commented on The Disavow Tool Killed My Site In Google

Titles like you suggest are only for reserved for real journalist..... I kid, I kid.