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SES NY '08 Conference Recap

SES NYIt is weird writing a conference recap while sitting in my office but that is where I am. Like most New York conferences, I commute back and forth - so no flying for me (thankfully). In any event, the Search Engine Strategies New York show is now over.

It was the first big show that Danny Sullivan did not run, so yes, it did kind of feel like it was missing something, at least from my perspective. There were a lot of different things taking place for the first time, like several keynotes instead of one and these Orion panels. So SES did not feel like an old SES. Not sure yet if that is a good or bad thing.

The Internet Marketers of New York held a charity even Wednesday night for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, sponsored by Best of the Web and Search Engine Land. The event pulled together over $16,000 for the charity! I know many of those reading this now were unable to make it to SES NY. But I strongly recommend you pitch in and represent the SEM community by donating to the charity. I would make a note that you are from the IM-NY event, this way we represent the SEMs!

I would like to thank our volunteer contributors who possibly burned the rubber off their keyboards covering the sessions for all those who were unable to attend. It is amazing how hard they work (I know, since I did several sessions myself) to get this live blog coverage up for you. Here is a list of the volunteers that are due our appreciation and thanks (feel free to comment thanking them). A huge thank you to Tamar Weinberg, Chris Boggs of Brulant, Debra Mastaler of Alliance Link and of Link Spiel Jeff Quipp of Search Engine People, Marshall Sponder of The Analytics Guru, Bill Hartzer and to Avi & Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp. Thank you all so much for helping with the coverage.

Here are the sessions we covered:
March 17, 2008

March 18, 2008March 19. 2008March 20, 2008

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 3:07 PM Comments (7)

Beyond Linkbait: Getting Authoritative Online Mentions

Link building is crucial, but linkbait tactics that worked this year may not be as effective next year. This session focuses on the underlying quality as well as ingenuity needed to get other websites to link to you early and often. It will also explain how you should approach journalists, bloggers and other authoritative sources to enhance your company's online reputation, whether or not you get links.
Moderator:

* Sage Lewis, Search Engine Watch Expert and President, SageRock.com

Speakers:

* Chris Boggs, Manager, Search Engine Optimization, eMergent Marketing/BRULANT, Inc.
* Sally Falkow, President, Expansion Plus Inc.
* Lee Odden, CEO, TopRank Online Marketing

First up is Sally Falkow.

What is an authoritative site? A site with strongly themed content about one topic that is updated frequently. Has hundreds of outgoing links and incoming links.

A different approach to authoritative links - public relations: there is a news story in any business.

HerRoom.com - videos of women in different sized bras - the "bounce test" videos. A number of people have been looking at them and it is building a lot of links. Interviews with doctor in podcast format.

Search results - previously not in the top 100. Sunday they were at #17. Now they're at #14 for sports bras.

If you can find a story in bouncing boobs, you can find a story in anything.

There's always a way to turn the content that you have into an interesting news story.

Chris Boggs speaks next.

Why go beyond linkbait? Apply it with oldschool stuff and offside linkbait.

The long term value of social media links is questionable. Digg links are great but it doesn't drive sales. There are exceptions to the rule but it's a fair argument that social media links may not be the way that you want to go. Links can become stale very quickly because of a fickle community that votes or links to sites. Also, linkbait can be confusing to clients.

A holistic approach is both natural and effective in growing inbound links.

Back to old school -
- Monitoring inbound links and its continued importance in structuring advanced strategies - you can remove this in Yahoo Site Explorer.
- Reciprocal linking - can it still work?
- Building directory links. Good directories = good deep links. Use Best of the Web as a directory.

Offsite linkbait - YouTube, challenge the linkerati. No more top 10s! Be creative and not salesy but remember that there are haters out there.
Case study with a client - over 25k viiews were genreated from YouTube and video search engines. To date, links to the entire site as a result of the project are over 5000.

Advanced strategies:
- Link remediation
- Link requests from relevant content sites
- Directory submissions
- Optimized press releases
- Optimized articles
- Site sponsorships
- Blogging
- and some other stuff. He purposely killed the slide before discussing each in detail or letting me see what the rest said. :)

Lee Odden is up and talks about media and blogger relations.

Push and pull PR
Push - outreach effort - wire services, networking, pitching, and RSS.
Pull - optimized content press release, newsroom, social media, media coverage

Outreach side - whether you're engaged in blogger or media relations, it comes down to persuasion. Have a compelling and relevant story.

Build relationships with folks who can extend your message.

Do your homework and be relevant.
- Biggest complaint that journalists/bloggers have: getting irrelevant pitches
- Research the target market - articles and bog posts
- Use tools like MyEdcals and Cision
- Technorati, blogrolls, social media monitoring
- Journalists need reliable resources (and tend not to link out), whereas bloggers need compelling content. If you're going to pitch to bloggers, have a blog yourself.

Make it easy:
- For journalists, make sure the pitch is meaningful for their needs and audience
- Offer high res images, videos, or presentations
- Provide extra resources to help them write the story
- For bloggers, write a summary of the news. They might even use it as a blog post.

Publicize your publicity:
- Blog about your coverage that will provoke dialogue
- Archive your past press releases and media coverage
- Offer RSS feeds
- Invite social bookmarking and news submissions
- Encourage social voting.

Don't be sloppy or spammy.
- Avoid broadcast email pitches without a qualifying list
- Avoid impersonal and irrelevant pitches
- Be sure to QA broadcast email pitches
- QA efforts should be used to personalize pitches

Don't be a one trick pony
- Once coverage is gained, keep coming back
- Develop relationships
- Be a trusted, consistent resource
- Continue to send story ideas
- Don't give up

Don't be arrogant
- Never assume a journalist has to write about your company
- Don't treat bloggers like they're second rate
- Treat influential bloggers just as you would treat mainstream media
- Skipping lesser known sites will also skip out on links
- Many journalists are also bloggers

Don't ignore multiple promotion channels
- Flickr, BusinessWire, RSS, delicious, PRWeb, Odeo, Facebook, Reddit, PR Newswire, Twitter, and more.

Don't forget to say thank you
- Journalists and bloggers are people too. Thank them!
- A little bit of appreciation goes a long way toward relationship building - paying repeat dividends

Takeaways
- Do your homework
- Build a list
- Be relevant
- Be personal
- Make it easy
- Develop a relationship

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 12:00 PM Comments (0)

Oldtimers: The Impact of Search on Brand Health Metrics

Kevin Ryan said it is very hard to run a session like this because he knows everyone for a long time. "We were doing this when no one else was." Here are some of the "founding fathers of the industry" as we know it today.

Rob Graham, Vice President of Creative & Technical Training, Laredo Group is first up.

How do we use search as a market research tool?

How do we know what we know... about our brands, customers, customers. What do they really want.

So does marketing research ask the right questions?
- Do you like this product?
- etc.

But what they don't ask is...
- How often do you do x
- What factors would make you choose this brand over others
- Would you go out of your way for the brand?

Sometimes it's about being polite:
- The observed consumer behaves very differently from the unobserver consumers
- Consumers often tell marketers what it is they think they want to hear
- Sometimes the market research doesn't reveal real consumer intention

What Marketers Need to Think About When Introducing New Brands

It's Never Cheap to launch a new product
- Product Design/Development/Importation
- Marketing, web site dev
- Distribution and infrastructure
- Staffing

Use Search to Test the Market Place
- Create a simple test page to see
- Tweak your keywords and ads and see the results


Doron Wesly, VP Strategic Services, Millward Brown Inc. is next up.

(1) Search volume rise immediately after the start of the print campaign
(2) Search volume remains higher after TV campaigns, when the print campaign is continued.

They have been doing studies to show this. But some instances don't make sense to build brand with search. It would not be appropriate to bid on competitors brand names and point them to you, but you can point them to a comparison site.

We need to always take into our objective and understand the cost of getting to those objectives are. Why? Because it can be very costly.

Stephen DiMarco, CMO, Compete is next up to tell us about him. He is a new guy in the old timers. He gives the company speech, caused he was asked to.

Kevin Lee, Executive Chairman and Co-Founder, Didit. He does PPC stuff, and gives the about Did It. He does a weekly column for ClickZ on paid search.

Kevin Lee asks if he can talk about branding, so Ryan finally lets him...

Kevin Lee said branding was invented by ad agencies. So they came up with brand metrics to sell it. Direct marketers say, if I can get you a sale, awesome but if I can get you branding, that is just gravy. One thing many marketers dont think about, that is not just the SERP that generates brand awareness, but also the web site, landing page. As you start to think about search and branding, don't just think about the SERP. Think more about that this is only stage one of the ad, it starts with the click and continues until they stop with your web site (hopefully leading to a sale). To not include that, he says, is "kind of selling search short."

Lee adds people search because they are stimulated to search. And to add to Wesly, yes, marketing campaigns offline can and do trigger searches.

Then Wesly and Lee start arguing about diapers. But it is about, does media trigger search... Yes.

Ryan asks about recession...

Graham said its category specific, people in loans and mortgages have pulled out. There are less consumers searching for mortgages, he said.

JP Morgan from the audience said that they seen an increase in mortgage searches and the rates are lower.

Search as an advertising medium is increasing and more and more people are coming in. In certain categories, we may loose some advertisers but in other categories you will gain. In any market, there are up and downs in different categories.

Lots of Q&A going on... Might add more if things spike my interest.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 11:59 AM Comments (0)

Staffing Up for Search

3 Speakers
Kendall Allen, Managing Director, Incognito Digital
Mike Moran, Distinguished Engineer, IBM
Nell Thompson, Director of Education, Media Arts Full Sail

Allen's Presentation:
Talent Considerations:
1. what's your organization
2. role
3. values and flaws - 6 profiles
4. the drivers of talent


1. What's your Org?
Staffinf up = reviewing and hiring an agency indiependant, building out an agency or client side group, or simply marketing your next killer hire.

2. What Role?
Someone for sales, technical, production, senior management, etc.

3. 6 Profiles she has identified in search:

a. Polly Pedantic
- seems to talk down to people
- doesn't collaborate well with the team
- strategic mindset ... but ends there. She gets outgrown as she does't keep up

b. Hamish
- data centric
- obsessed with stats, lulls, spikes
- fails to give campaign enough time to perform
- must frequently regroup after false starts

c. Leonard:
- able planner
- has it down to a repeat formula
- uses all the latest methods and tricks of the trade
- views search as an accountable media
-

d. Dirk the Dilettante
- hangs out with gurus
- wants to be rich
- admires those
- goes to all parties, but doesn't remember his clients
- stays junior and doesn't really jump in
- never really becomes an expert

e. Trina and Tools Addict
- obsessed with training, especailly offsite
- constantly researching and testing
- doesn't really understand the tools though
- prides herself on knowledge of new tools

f. Real Deal Ronnie (want to hire)
- broader internet perspective
- dealth with both branding and performance
- distinguishing between strategy and methos
- knows how to plans
- knows how to run tools
- talks to you as a natural collaborator
- he's thoughtful, and engaging

4 Drivers of Talent:
#1 Roots
- early on role in SEO, SEM industry
- broader understanding of media

#2 Intelligence:
- ability to synthesize strategy and methos
- current point of view
- understand client intent

#3 Ethics
- consistent dedication to full equation

#4 Style
- curiosity and tirelessnes
- obviously smart
-client focus
- telltale spark in the eye


Moran
Wants to help you find the good people Allen discussed.

Need to focus on identifying skills needed, and how to find those people. Focus of this discussion.

Things to think about:
1. will you use an agency or in-house
- some things best done in-house
- page indexing
- optimizing content
- others best by agency
- diagnosing problems

How to Chose an Agency?
Do you need an agency to help train your team?

How to Spot the Spammer Agency/Person:
- look like you are trying to hire someone full of tricks and blackhat knowledge
- they will then tell you what they know
- those ethical companies will try to talk you out of it.

How to get inhouse talent:
- hire people with requisite skills but without the background (too expensive, and too likely to leave), and have the agency help you train them
- people with a statistic background such as librarians, translators, linguists, etc.
- Need folks who can understand the numbers
- and folks that are great with words/writing
So don't overlook people you've already got inhouse. They already know the company culture, the business, the people.


Thompson:
An Educator's Perspective:

Challenges of Acquiring Talent:
- colleges and universities and just beginning to deal with topic
- no standardization in academic approaches
- MBA and marketing degrees do not cover specific internet marketing topics
- 2 areas that need to be addressed:
- IT considerations
- web design principles
- Every company has a different approach

Challenges to the educators:
- mixed messages on hard skills
- an abundant wish list of soft skills
- wants fresh perspectives
- wants everything or wants total conformity

Specific Hard Skills Needed:
- strong writing skills ... writing is very important
- fundamental understanding of web design - important for many aspects of search
- intorduction to web interface and usability
- basic IT understanding
- internet business models
- internet law and legal issues
- web metrics and marketing math

Soft Skills Needed:
- world perspectives and cultural studies (its a small world)
- internet consumer psychology
- social media intuitiveness
- viral marketing understanding
- emotional intelligence
- self awareness
- self management
- relationship management

For the Student (potential future employee):
- look for opportunities that provide a balance between marketing and the web
- double major to gt writing, technical, and analytics skills

For the Employers:
- conduct 'think tanks' at colleges and universities
- contact career outreach depeartments at colleges
- join advisory boards and give input to curriculum

Jeff Quipp is President of Search Engine People Inc. a Toronto SEO, SEM, SMM firm.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 10:59 AM Comments (0)

Morning Keynote: Andrew Tomkins

Thursday morning SES New York keynote address by Andrew Tomkins, Chief Scientist, Yahoo! Search

Mike Grehan has called him the smartest man in search today!

Where does Yahoo see search going? Will be the subject of much discussion today.


Eg of a search ... looking to book a vacation to Tuscany.

Start searching .... need hotel, car, flight, etc. Go on trip. Enjoyed it immensely. Now I want to find that amazing coffee I drank in Tuscany. Try to find it online. Ah ... need a special coffee maker. Find it online, buy it.
As you can see ... the process can go on for quite a long time.

Trends in Task Complexity:
Dawn of search:
a. navigation of queries
b. pockets of information

Long Running User Goals:
Search as a hub:
- start here
- return for resource discovery and define task boundaries
- traverse the web broadly to complete task
- web services integrated into search
Summary, search will more about hard core productivity.

Content Growth:
- published content 3-4 GB created per day
- professional web content ~ 2 GB created per day
- user generated content 8-10 GB created per day
- private text content ~ 3 TB (300x more) created per day
- upper bound on types content ~700 TB (200x more again) created per day
Only a small fraction of content is being indexed, and even that is growing exponentially.

Growth of Metadata (amount of metadata produced per day):
- anchor Text - 100 MB
- tags 40 MB
- pageviews 180 GB
- reviews ~ 10 MB

Content ownership:
- content consumption is fragementing - nobody owns more than 10% of www page views
- no single place will own all the content
- best of breed processing will operate on the web
- value transitions to ecosystem

Content Consumption is Fragmenting Across Users:
Yahoo peformed a study showing different age groups' search patterns are often defined by stage of life (eg. teenagers search for cars).

The Search Interface:
Challenging for search engines, because content is becoming more rich and complex. Content is being published by many more publishers than ever before.

What Does This Mean for Search?
- few changes through 2005
- entering preiod of massive change to handle more complex content
- rich media, aggregation, simple task analysis
- moving beyond the stateless query/response paradigm (understanding tasks)
- personalization theory

Rich Media and Search Assistance:
Understanding what people want when looking at rich media ... probabalistic search results.

The dataweb needs a killer app!

What has Yahoo announced? Search as the killer app
- publishers and search engines collaborate!

Search Results of the future:
The amalgamation of lots of content (inclusing reviews, pictures, etc.) called abstracts. Numerous deep links, possibly statistics, rich content, reviews, general information from different publishers (eg. Yelp) in addition to specific companies. Expect the look and feel of search results to change substantially.

Comprehensive Support
much more coordination with web publishers (eg. yelp) to show more than one opinion and source of data. Some such formats:
- microformats
- hcard
-more as they get adopted
- RDFa and eRDF markup
- Open Search
- Atom/RSS Feeds

Yahoo announcing support for a different vocabulary to help publishers communicate their information to search engines.

What Does This Mean for Publishers?:
- Yahoo! open search platform does not modify ranking
- richer abstracts may provide more information to users and draw higher quality/quantity of clicks
- we want rich abstracts (results) that give users a better experience
- we don't want misleading abstracts
This is likely to be based to a large extent on trust.

Different classes of abstracts:
Yahoo looking to put together a gallery of abstract formats, that you as a user can select among to see. None of these are proprietary, but are out there for all to get on board with.

The Whole Story - summary:
- user needs becoming more complex
- content growing, changing, diversifying, fragmenting
- search responding by increases in sophistication
- value migrating to ecosystem
- unlock the value by enabling interoperability - expose semantics

Jeff Quipp is President of Search Engine People Inc. a Toronto SEO, SEM, SMM firm.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 10:58 AM Comments (1)

Podcast & Audio Search Optimization

With the inclusion of audio results in the main search pages, search marketers must now include audio (podcast) optimization in their tactical toolkits. This session will cover the why and how of audio search optimization, including how to use RSS to increase reach.
Moderator:

* Lee Odden, CEO, TopRank Online Marketing

Speakers:

* Amanda Watlington, Owner, Searching for Profit
* Daron Babin, CEO, Webmaster Radio

Amanda Watlington speaks first:

Why new rules for customer engagement are needed. What should I do and why should I do it? Where does audio fit in the customer engagement process?
- The effectiveness of interrupt advertising has had a sharp decline and in attention and in effectiveness
- There's a tremendous fragmentation in the overall media
- Small more specialized audiences
- Diminished brand loyalty
Podcasting can address these areas.

This is a new customer engagement model - reach the audience, they become aware. You communicate them in a more targeted fashion and it's more personalized. You can reach new audiences who don't know of you, your brand, or what you have to offer. Search helps in the awareness phase because you can increase your communication. RSS particularly and targeted sites think about music artists and music sites through search. Last but not least, RSS lets us share content, and the growth of widgets has helped in this process as well.

She illustrates how keywords influences across the spectrum and how it plays out in the search results.
e.g. Reach keywords: "mp3 download," "mp3 music"
Awareness keywords: "new punjabi music," "free punjabi music"
Targeted communication: "punjabi songs by malkit singh," "jassi sidhu mp3"

By using this kind of information and applying RSS feeds, iTunes stores, and widgets, you can create a personalized communication and engagement.

It's not a simple strategy to put it in action. Before you launch, you need to make decisions.
- Ask yourself: Should I do one standalone show or short series of podcasts? When you do one, it's like potato chips. You won't just do one. Think longer term.
- Ask yourself: should I have a scheduled series of podcasts?
- Ask yourself: do I want to create a radio or entertainment site?

Get down and dirty:
- Think about the name of the show. Tip: make sure it's not in use. Names aren't as easy to check as domain name. Chaning the name is difficult once you have an audience
- Consider the show name versus the episodes. Each episode needs its own title and description.

Prepare:
- Develop a keyword list and determine how you're going to brand name (host, show, overall site?)
- Write the audio tag information in advance because you'll want to mount your show quickly
- Get album art done quickly, especially if you use iTunes for distribution (she recommends that)
- Review iTunes categories to look for the right fit
- Build your infrastructure in advance so you can mount it rapidly

Walk and Tackle:
Record - Post - Distribute - Find - Play - Learn

Podcast optimization can be broken down into 4 steps:
- Optimize audio file
- Optimize webpage
- Create/distribute RSS feed
- Promotion

Step 1: Optimize your sound - ID3 tags
- Get real friendly with these tags because they offer you a lot of opportunities.
- You can even put lyrics in there!
Essentials: Name of the podcast, title, comments section (URL, transcript or abstract and who to contact). You can use an application like Audacity.
When you optimize the filename, make sure you use a short and unique name which is recognizable. This is important for users and directories.

Step 2: Optimize your webpage. Have a show page and then individual episode pages.
Optimize your landing page - use a separate page for audio content. Provide information on the show's schedule to attract subscribers and how to subscribe. This is how you can engage users on the series.
Provide a player for them - let them listen online. A lot of people listen to the material online. Include with the player the length and the size of each audio file - some people are reluctant to commit. Our time online is valuable.
Include an abstract or transcription (I like transcriptions, kthx!)
Multiple feeds and multiple formats
SEO the page

5 tactics and 5 tips beyond search engines
1. Use the content and its power to draw your listeners in: Interviews, topical subjects
2. Use PR and word of mouth techniques for awareness. Embed links to the audio in online Press Releases
3. Use marketing communications to drive listeners. Make URL recognizable
4. Feature links on our website to boost awareness of your podcast.
5. Provide widgets for letting users embed your audio in their site or Facebook page.

5 quick tips for SEO success with your audio
1. Develop a long range strategy for how audio fits with marketing and search efforts
2. Optimize audio files
3. Buold SEO landing pages
4. Build accurate effective RSS files
5. Submit and promote broadly to grow your audience those multiple marketing channels

Daron Babin is next. He hosted an awesome search bash last night. If you were at SESNY, why weren't you there?!

He shows examples of what Amanda has done practically well on his website, Webmaster Radio. He does live and on-demand content - you can go into production on a myriad of topics and look at it with a little of forethought and figure out where it fits and how you can best optimize it for delivery.

There are a lot of categories on Webmaster Radio because there's a lot of content. How do you promote the content and programs? Amanda talked about how to brand your podcast; do you come out with a name or brand the show host? Honestly, Daron says that there's something to be said about branding a person's name in there. If you're potentially planning to distribute numerous podcasts, there is value in basically making sure you have "sticktuitiveness." (He made up that word.) There's a lot to be said for what's in a name. If you're a long time listener, you see that there's a lot of SEO on the website. However, Daron needed to think out of the box on deployment and branding.

If you're creating a singular podcast for your company, there are a number of things to do:
- WordPress has plugins - PodPress
- If you ever plan on selling advertising, you're going to get a lot of hurdles - "how many listeners do you have?" You need to be able to answer that questions because you need checks and balances between you and your web host. If you're not up front with your webhost about what you're doing and you become popular, there will be a lot of donwloads. Your bandwidth bill will be REALLY high and unexpected.

- How can we employ not traditional SEO tactics but some really cool SEO tactics which will help not only our brand but those doing podcasts so that there's ROI? He sat down with the engineers and said he wanted to make the site 100% dynamic (the site was designed in ColdFusion, btw.)

- Give thought to a variety of things - make sure you have album art in there. You also want to simplify your approach to distributing the content.

- Pinging is a huge thing - be able to ping if you're producing and distributing yourself. Hit all of the top podcast diretories including iTunes that you're submitting to on a regular basis, and if your feeds have already been included, you only need to ping them once. Anytime you ping them, they will grab the update of your feed and post your new content. ONLY ping when you update your new content. Don't ping too often--it can be detrimental.

- When you update content on WebmasterRadio and publish it, the system is set up to ping, publish, update robots.txt and the sitemap, and updates the infrastructure immediately.

- You can also optimize that RSS feed. It's extremely important (he says that very slowly and says that I should underline that). What can you do to optimize it? If you've never done your job, you can take care of visibility with FeedBurner so that you can get analytics and optimize it itself. If you're not adept with editing XML, let someone else do it for you. Include your RSS over iTunes and eyeball it. You can really tweak your feeds very well and give you a lot more awareness.

What are the upsides? The more you do it, the more visibility you get. Someone in the audience says he podcasts and has 30 listeners. Daron says that for 300 or 3000, you need to be religious about it.

Daron talks about the Shoemoney show. His first show with WMR was called Net Income. Webmaster Radio ranks in the top 10-15 for that search phrase.
He abandoned 250k RSS subscribers to change his podcast name! Without a strategy and forethought about how to deploy your content and how you build brand loyalty, if you begin to think differently and want to abandon that, go back and look at your feed - look at your stats. Tell yourself that it's a bad idea!!!!
You cannot port RSS subscribers from one feed to another. It doesn't work like that. It just doesn't.

Look at the keywords that you wish to rank for. Every category on WMR is a keyword. Deep content pages are all high PR pages.

TRANSCRIPTION is very important. Is an abstract enough? That is never enough. He has 3.5 years of content. NBC produces 18 original hours of content a week. WMR produces 20 and every ounce of it gets transcribed. When those transcriptions are done, he outsources. Why? Transcriptions are not cheap! They're very valuable. Every time you go in there to publish, not only is there an abstract but on the page, he'll drop in all of the transcript. You won't see the transcripts unless you subscribe to the site (monetization technique). As transcripts are dropped, on the page optimization is taken care of. How can this be beneficial from an SEO standpoint? Keep using those keyword rich terms in the podcast - you're SEOing your content as you talk into your mic. Not only do you deploy that transcript on the page, but it gets shoved into the ID3 tag. You can get a lot of content there.

He also explains that WMR's publish button also embeds player codes dynamically. You can C&P those codes directly and that helps him rank for those keywords because they are 100% relevant.

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 20, 2008 10:45 AM Comments (1)

CSS, AJAX, Web 2.0 & Search Engines

As the web moves into its second generation, sites are making more use of CSS, AJAX and other advanced and interactive design techniques. But how are the largely Web 1.0 search engines reacting to these, from an SEO perspective. This session explores issues and solutions.
Moderator:
• Jon Myers, Head of Search, MediaVest
Speakers:
• Jonathan Ashton, VP of SEO & Web Analytics, Agency.com
• Ben D'Angelo, Software Engineer, Google
• Chris Humber, Director of SEO, 360i


Jonathan Ashton

I would like to talk about the issues of standards in web development, and ultimately presenting the right experience to all web users.

You guys remember when Flash came and brought the whole idea of life into the static environments of the web. Ren and Stimpy was one of the first automated cartoons built in Flash. When Flash emerged, it was something that gave us an added layer to bill our clients extra for! But today, we have so many amazing tools that now our clients are paying us for our ability to measure proper use of these elements.

Usability standards for optimizing in web 2.0:

AOL still has 9 million + users on dial up! You have to realize that if you are going to be a good internet citizen, you cannot leave these people behind! Now, 35% of people use Firefox to explore the web without JavaScript! If your intention is to reach every human, you will also reach every search engine bot!

If a person who is blind visits a web page, they can’t tell a picture of a horse unless it has an alt tag. So by taking yourself out of the perspective of someone who is marketing, and into the shoes of someone trying to create a good community, you will benefit.

I have met SEO’s who have not taken time to read the Google guidelines and recommendations. If you are spending any time messing with your site on trying to get more traffic, please take the time to read this stuff! Google is showing you as much of their hand as they are willing to show!

Google tells you that certain technologies are not crawlable! It also suggests you download an old school browser and look at your site in it! We need to help our clients achieve that level of interactivity.

What does index actually mean? Just because it’s indexable does not mean it’s going to win for anything meaningful. I know search engines are focusing on more content in these dynamic environments, but indexability does not mean winability! So leave semantics behind. You need the layer underneath for the non-Flash enabled user, or spider.

Information architecture is core to usability. It is also required for a usable site. Optimizers should get involved early and often. If the content needs to be indexed, don’t hide it. As optimizers we need to bring this level of rationality to the IA process.

Is dynamic content really required? Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it a valid reason to do it. If there is a valid reason, go for it. But if you can accomplish everything without using the newest technology, then great, don’t use it.

So what’s the A in Ajax? It stands for asynchronous! It may look cool but it’s ultimately a challenge to index.

Validate your HTML and CSS. Careful development means good optimization, a browser is designed to interpret what it sees and is forgiving of mistakes, but what a search engine sees is a much more literal engagement.

So, how do you finish first? Develop for the highest common denominator and the lowest. Make sure your tools are still 2.0 plus, in a 1.0 environment.

Ben D’Angelo

A lot of content is already easily accessed by search engines. Blogs, wikis etc. use HTML markup. It becomes more challenging introducing other ways of interaction. The 2 main technologies I will talk about are Ajax and Flash.

What is 2.0 about? It’s about richer and more complex systems relating to the management and interdependence of content, presentation and navigation.

Ajax maybe content and navigation. Flash – all 3 of these are tightly coupled.

Most people have Flash enabled. Why should I worry about the tiny of fraction of those who don’t have Flash enabled? You can say a similar argument about images back in the day! Of course now we know, images are great but at the same time, have alt texts, etc it’s much more accessible. So it’s similar argument to Flash.

When you think about accessibility for all users, it will become much more available for search engines. If it’s viewable for the blind reader, great. Some tech savvy people have plug-ins to disable Flash. Cell phones and low-bandwidth devices also don’t support Flash and is a market you likely want to target. Bookmarking is something you might not think about, but it’s important. It’s good for your site to attract links but can they link to your site if you have Flash – can I link to this cool game I played if the entire site is in Ajax? If a user can bookmark it, it will be accessible to search engines.

A simple thing – make static links and they will automatically be recognizable by search engines.

CSS – it allows you to isolate the content from the presentation. You can try turning off CSS to see if your site still looks reasonable. Avoid abusing techniques like hiding text in CSS.

Start with traditional HTML, add a little embellishments like rich media elements. You Tube is a good example.

From an Ajax perspective: URL parameters vs. fragments. Googlebot can ignore fragments in a URL. If you want to use some Ajax, use together with HTML.

Flash – Google does try to read some of it in URLs but not all, so use regular HTML for primary content and navigation and then compliment it with Flash elements.

A little more advanced technique – SIFR – takes content in HTML elements and will replace t with a little Flash – primary use is for different fonts. If a user does have things installed and enabled they will see it, if not, they will see regular HTML.

Useful links: Google webmaster central blog, webmaster help center, webmaster discussion group.


Chris Humber

Flash is a restrictive technology. Why, because the content is invisible to the spider and spiders can’t navigate it. I personally am waiting for the day where I can see a great article when Google can incorporate Flash! Unfortunately, the engines operate in a 1.0 space.

TheBar.com – great website where the bartender will respond to your questions. They have a great margarita recipe. This site is built entirely in Flash. This is great info that would be extremely useful in the search engines, unfortunately when you search for a margarita recipe, it cannot be found. The user perspective gets a rich interface, but the spiders get nothing.

Some best practices to incorporate if you must use Flash:

Adobe Search Engine SDK – extracts texts and links from a SWF file. It’s a direct sort of output of a Flash file, never use alone, can’t be indexed.

SWF address is a code library that allows you to create URLS in a Flash environment.

An SWF object is a great way to embed Flash into your HTML code, it’s compatible. Plenty of sites use it. Allows for content integration. A DIV layer allows you to provide static text in a Flash environment.

You have to privde the navigation if you use a SWF address or SWF object. The spiders need enough navigation to find the content. Also think about inbound linking. Otherwise you wont rank very well.

sIFR – short text vlocks, page editors, carousels – ensures content is accessible. Uses combo if CSS, java, Flash. ABC News uses it for their website. Very useful if you have a dynamic lead on the website.

If you apply the above best practices, you should see an improvement in search visibility and increase traffic via natural search in a Flash-based environment.

This session is provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 7:04 PM Comments (1)

The New Face of In-House Search

As Search Engine Marketing (SEM) grows in popularity, many companies are attempting to handle the SEM function in-house despite the inherent complexity and challenges. Join us for a spirited discussion and get a chance to meet some of these intrepid do-it yourselfers behind the in-house movement as we debate the pros and cons of developing and training a dedicated in-house team. Laying the foundation for in-house SEO success, long-term cost savings, gaining project support at the executive level, leveraging innate knowledge and creating accountability are just some of the topics to be discussed.

Moderator:

• Ron Belanger, Vice President of Agency Development, Yahoo! Search Marketing

Speakers:

• Bill Hunt, CEO, Global Strategies International
• Olivier Lemaignen, Group Manager, Global Search Marketing, Intuit
• Marshall D. Simmonds, Chief Search Strategist, New York Times / About.com
• Bill Macaitis, VP of Online Marketing & SEO/SEM, Fox Interactive Media
• Brendan Hart, Vice President - Marketing & Business Intelligence, National Geographic Digital Media


We are going to be spending the next hour talking about the rising tide of folks bringing, or thinking about bringing search in-house, and the fundamental issues involved. We have a great panel joining us, everyone is bringing a unique twist to this. It’s really good stuff.

The first panelist is Bill Hunt from Global Strategies International.

So Global Strategies doesn’t sound like an agency but we are. We help companies migrate search internally, we do it for a lot of big brands.

The SEMPO/Did-It in-house search marketer study is great, interesting data. According to the data,

26.4% have a manager title, while 10% have a director title.
51.7% have a team size of 1-10 and 46.5% have a team size of 0.
33.1% have 0-3 years experience.

How should you approach outsource vs. in-source vs. hybrid?

Many use the hybrid, the agencies for some things.

The hard questions you should ask:

- What are the objectives, what are we trying to achieve?
- Can we achieve them given the resources we have?
- What is the level of management support?
- Can we measure a program to show the benefit?
- What is our bench strength?
- Can our program scale? (for those with multiple brands, multiple countries)
- What is the total cost for each approach?
- Am I willing to endure the pain and suffering necessary to succeed? Is the organization willing to put forth the activities necessary?

How supportive is my management: they want it done but are not willing to pay. How to bring this forward, what needs to change? This is hard for companies to acknowledge, what needs to change in order for the company to be successful.

You need to have written stats and a business plan in order to get management support. Search engines have things like this to help convince companies.

Can we measure performance: I flag this as “outsource” because analytics software is used for this. In many cases, 8 out of 10 applications are not configured correctly. If you can do it yourself great, but track it.

How scalable can we be? This is a “hybrid” - it makes sense for most companies to integrate SEO in house, optimizing press releases, etc. It’s amazing the economies of scale if you think about it. It cannot be matched. That’s why some companies with one or two people blow away the big companies.

What is bench strength? This is flagged as “hybrid” - say you do everything in the company in marketing and you are frazzled, if you were out sick everything will come to a halt. Use that as a way to get more people. Show you can’t always do everything and what you could do if you had more labor available.

Next up is Olivier Lemaignen from Intuit.

A year and a half ago at Intuit we did not have an in-house SEO team. Just a couple of guys who ran search part time. SEO was a mythical thing they weren’t sure if it was going to work. So I will take you through the journey we have gone through. We are definitely hybrid, in house, but for paid-search we use agencies for bid management.

First thing to do when take in house is hire a team. And you need to get budget approval with executive support. You need to then define the scope of the team, what skills you need on that team, to help you hire the right team. If you hire someone with the wrong skills you will waste a lot getting them up to speed.

Then you engage with internal clients. In order to do that you need to define and measure the success metrics to improve the profitability of the program. With a central team, you need to then develop clear service levels – what are you going to do and for who. You need tools and processes that are scalable. If they are not scalable they will not work because you won’t get good results. You realize from this that not all businesses are created equal. Define service level agreements.

What’s absolutely critical if you want your program to endure is to evangelize and educate.

The Keys to Success:

-Budget autonomy
-Executive support
-Team structure and coverage – having the right team organized the right way is key
-Tools and metrics
-Evangelization and education
-Results

Building the in-house team:

• Understand your business dimensions – business type, site, product.
• If you think about success metrics, a service vs. web apps are going to be very different.
• Combine the SEO expertise.
• PPC Specialization. Holistic thinking is key. Note that PPC is a piece of the puzzle.

Be able to do all the stuff in house that an agency can do, and have the tools and support to scale what you are trying to manage.

Scope: 6 main objectives:

1. Develop consistent and repeatable processes.
2. Implementing scalable tools and reporting.
3. Enduring coverage for the right businesses.
4. Coordinating with agencies, web engineers, teams, analytics teams, copywriters (if your efforts are not coordinated with the folks who touch the site every day – it won’t work).
5. Defining and deploying best practices and standards. If you won’t share with the organization, who will?
6. Evangelizing and educating SEM across business units, web teams, and engineers.

Get the team to wrap their minds about how they are going to accomplish, not just what they are going to accomplish.


Next up is Marshall Simmonds from the New York Times.

I think the processes are pretty straight forward. The NY Times oversees a lot of different properties, like Boston Globe, About.com, etc. So it gives us a unique experience because a lot of what we do is in-house. But the best-practices are going to stay the same. But how you do it?

• Organize
• Analyze
• Educate
• Execute
• Track your results

This is always the same, but the differences are where they are in the lifecycle. So how those 5 elements react to where the vertical is, is definitely influenced by how we address certain people. We have a lot of turnover, and millions of documents that we deal with. Communication is imperative across the verticals.

Organize the teams. Not only should the SEO person have a strong understanding, but also good communication. Find one point person in the department. Have an engaged team of marketing, technology, research, editorial, sales.

Analyze, break down into buckets. Where can we monetize something immediately? Depends were you are in the cycle. Educate based on where you are in the lifecycle. Where can the smallest change have the biggest result?

Education: no matter who it is, it has to be done. We currently train thousands on SEO. It needs to be ingrained in the root level. Educating from the bottom is imperative, but you need to approach each department differently, like IT and editorial.

The execution portion is fairly clear. You need to communicate because if you are not following up on a monthly basis on what’s working and what’s not, you are not measuring your successes carefully. Metrics allows you to communicate the success. Give feedback to the workers and to upper management.

Mistakes we’ve had for you to learn from:

-Don’t wall off content. Don’t have hundreds of versions of a registration page.
-Don’t under communicate success. You need to let people know. It can be a great motivation device.
-Not checking in. IT will screw something up. Constantly check in. Weigh it at every level.
-Meta keywords tags. Don’t forget.
-Talk to those who are implementing the changes. Make a lot of checklists.
-Managing expectations. It is a long-term process. Not for the quick blast of traffic, that’s what buying ads and clicks are for.
-Lack of editorial oversight. Make sure headlines and title tags are looked at or the content won’t go live. Things should be automated where they can be.

Next is Bill Macaitis who does SEO for My Space and Rotten Tomatoes (Fox Interactive Media - FIM).

I head up the online department. We work with about 20+ FIM sites out there. We look at social media, email, but we focus on search. We do utilize some 3rd party technology, some web analytics and bid management – but all our SEO and SEM people and researchers are in-house. We are at a staff of 22.

We are ROI driven. You gotta position your department as a revenue department. If every piece of messaging you put out there is generated by revenue, it’s very helpful. You will get more successful this way.

Some questions to think about:

How do we expand? Do we organize pal by content vertical, or specialization?

Here’s how we did it. We split it up into the paid side (SEM), SEO, and within each one we split it by vertical, we have a research and reporting team who handle all keyword research and new studies, and then we have a small tool-building team.

My section: training your in-house team. It will take time and money, it’s an investment. We use about 10-15% of our compensation towards conferences, travel, etc. I let my team go to 3 conferences a year and they can choose. You want to empower them. We give our people a few weeks of training, let them shadow others. You need time for them to develop. Our field changes a lot so the education is ongoing. Spend an hour or two a day to educate yourselves. Give them the tools to do their jobs, and if you invest time in your group they will develop loyalty.

Here are some ways to train your staff:

- Sessions
- Industry sites
- Podcasts
- Conferences
- Course, certifications. SEMPO has a great course, Bruce Clay has one, the search engines have them.
- Magazines
- 3rd party research, Marketing Sherpa, Hitwise.

Last is Brendan Hart of National Geographic.

For national geographic, it’s a changing landscape on a daily basis. I deal with marketing intelligence, from blogs, to widgets, to media. My team is responsible for building the online promotion for our new movies.

Our industry has evolved pretty significantly over the past years. Each page now is important, not just the home page, and every day is a challenge. Thinking about an evolving landscape, what is it that we need to do?

Search Strategy:

- Build content with consumer demand to create category ownership
- Follow best practice
- Optimize strategy based on changing trends
- Rich media feeds
- Include a search marketing component to all content
- Engage SE consultants to review whorl flow am best practice analysis

It is important for us to find our inner search voice. Look at the current situation. Who is going to do what? Who is going to own this? What skill sets do we have? Let’s define our goals.

Then you have a decision process. You must make it work cross-functionally because everyone has a different skill set and will bring something different to the table. When we think about the team, what are the core actions to building the team? How do we build consensus among people who will actually have to implement actions?

De-mystify the process. It puts a human face on it that makes it interesting to work on. Then we think about, well how do we train people to keep them interested? So we came up with a search program.

We defined a mission which inspires people. By creating a program we developed innovation. In terms of creating a team, I think scalability is key to any in-house program. You also need to think about success, are we aligned to where the industry is going. Assign tactical responsibility based on function. Prioritize implementations based on business objectives. Continually revise. Optimize the process to drive great results.

To get there, we bring in an expert point of view. So we can maintain these programs in house, but we are constantly seeking ways to innovate.

We are focusing on growth. We set our benchmarks of analysis, then operationalize which allows everyone to contribute, and success is a great KPI, so don’t shy away from that.

This session is provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 7:02 PM Comments (2)

Social Search - The Next Step

Moderated by Kevin Heisler the Executive Editor of Search Engine Watch.

First speaker will be Simon Heseltine from Serengeti. He is wearing a quite awful tie with zebras on it. (Just kidding Simon). What is social search? It is search with human involvement. It can be delivered using an Algo + humans or just humans. The whole concept is wisdom of the crowds/masses. Others have called this folksonomy.

Common search topic for use to examine these will be the local “Eliot Sptitzer.” He shows the varied results at Anoo, Sproose, ChaCha, Malhalo and briefly describes each of these. Also shows: irazoo, which is run by iwon.com. Everyday they give away gift certificate to a lucky searcher. He shows LinkedIn Q&A search. yoname is a name-based search engine. Then he shows social media site searches: mixx, Digg, StumbleUpon. He says that StumbleUpon is a favorite of his as well asd the other panelists. he likes it because they also show who talked about a person, so you can then follow that trail. he then shows Facebook and that “Eliot Spitzer has no friends.”

Social search aggregators: twing, zudos, friendfeed. Social web browser: Flock, which is mozilla based and similar to Firefox.

What are some of the issues in social search? many sites are slow due to lack of expensive hardware. Sourcing of data challenges. Low volume of active users – if humans are not using them then all you have is a crappy search engine. They need the humans to succeed. Being found amongst the chatter is an issue as well. A group with an agenda to hijack a results page can still do so fairly easily due to lack of a lot of users. This leads to potential reputation management issues.

Getting into reputation management: there are a lot of possible problem sources: disgruntled ex-employees; etc. The first thing to do is look at what is being said, how it is said, and where it is said. If someone is saying something bad about you on a blog that is only read by the guy’s mother and two dogs, probably not an issue. However if she writes for another blog, there may be problems. Damage mitigation should be SERP based. Legal threats: “even if it works it never works.” This may cause more issues that it resolves.

How do you respond to issues in this world of social search? You have to get involved in the community, and not be overly defensive. If what is said is true, then maybe you should go there and say “OK you are right, and this is what we are going to do to fix it.” This may lead to positive response, and in fact it often does. If you put out great content, that will hopefully drown out the other stuff. Remember that social media sites constantly appear and disappear: each requires a unique profile and individual management.

Steve Marder of Eurekster will speak next. He will speak about Distributed Social Search. He calls his company a “Social Search Pioneer.” he shows a slide titled “trends in social media/social search - then.” It shows Web 1.0 feeding to media 1.0. In the “now,” the bubbles are blended and media 2.0 and search 2.0 are connected. He describes social media as being about many-to-many, collaboration, “wisdom of the crowds.”

Why should you care? Because your brand is being mentioned. What can you leverage? Power of community and collaboration. Leverage your expertise and passion but also leverage the passion that people in your community have. He describes that this is what Eureskter does, which combines a Wikipedia platform with a social community. They built a widget called the “Social Search Widget.” He then talks about the video “buzz clouds” that they created for people to share video. He walks through an actual example of a Swicki, which he left an “subliminal” message under the example with a strong call to action to build your own and get started. He essentially spends 3 minutes walking through his specific product’s details. Make that 8 now…

Finally, some challenges and opportunities ahead: the need for a trusted relationship with you search platform, or an expert source/guide. How to effectively apply the social graph to search? How to create/surface additional high quality content (user generated)? His conclusions: social search from an SEO perspective is that it is all about content. It is hard to game the system. Next generation search is comprised of quality of content plus human interaction/rating.

Next speaker is Marty Weintraub of AimClear. He will be doing a very unique presentation. 48 slides in 15 minutes. I will try to get as much as possible. Potential customers are congregating…wherever they go we are here to sell them things. Now that social media has shown up, we can measure chatter. He says that social pay per click is the 800 pound gorilla that will take over. Google wants money, mainstream social media sites need money too…PPC helps both.

“Buzz pocket mining” is the new keyword research tool. Congregation point for millions. Tools are available in most to measure the chatter patterns. he will look at Facebook (FB) to see how it is measured there. He feels that FB is the millennial harbinger of what PPC will be in the future. He walks though the way you can find out info about advertising at FB through the small link in the bottom navigation. You can ask the system to choose the audience, then you create the ad, and lastly set your budget.

Don’t “piss off Facebook.” They are jagged…the traffic goes in waves. There are interesting patterns, and it can drive a tremendous amount of traffic in paid search. His studies show: Leads convert to sales +11%, 80% reduction in cost of leads. 14-18% on-page conversion boost from AdWords. Landing page segmentation increased conversion rates by +8%.

Conclusion: The “Tao of keyword research/buzz pocket mining.” Use free tools to measure buzz. Stay abreast of Facebook, open social, and other emerging social PPC platforms. Recognize the inevitable future is here. Look around, everything is personalized.

Last up is Eric Qualman, and he only has two slides. (laughs). he wants to go over the some of the top things heard recently about social networks. First thing: “social communities are just for kids, and it’s just a fad”. typically agencies will just ignore it, or will say they are developing a strategy for it. He would not recommend creating a community for all your clients to congregate in, for competitors to find them all together.

He then shows the results for a search for “John Deere” at Facebook and it has many non-official John Deere groups, all using the logo. One of the funnier ones is a misspelled group called “Country Girl’s Who Aint Afriad to Dip n Drive a *John Deere*” This group has 595 members! (Eric gave no details as to how many different family trees are represented).

Eric talks about how CBS is actually driving sports fans to Facebook.com/brackets for the NCAA basketball tournament. It takes guts to do this.

Why is everyone ramped up about social networks? Takes an example of needing a new car since you now have two kids. You have to go to a bunch of sites to find out about options, etc. In the future, you can type in a search at Facebook and search “SUV” and FB will then provide information about the people in your list of friends that somehow are related to an SUV, such as if they purchased within last year, etc. This will save lots of research time.

You have to pay attention to what is out there and react. The fourth thing that should be really hot in the short term are the Facebook applications. Right now the craze is games, but he feels that the functional applications will continue to grow in value. They looked at the status updates section, and they will be creating a way (called Beacon I believe) for the system to automatically update where you are…”Suzie is at the Louvre…Suzie at the Eifel Tower…etc.”

He advises if you create a Facebook page, don’t use “John Deere” as the first word in your title but instead a more commonly searched keyword like “lawnmower.” What are the applications that people really want right now? The top things are ways to be able to brag, or ways to seem smarter than other people by winnign trivia or other knowledge-based games.

This is live blogging coverage of SES New York 2208, so some typos or grammatical errors exist. Panelists or other attendees are encouraged to comment below to share any inaccuracies, and to help fill out the rest of the story.

posted chrisboggs in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 6:54 PM Comments (3)

Dealing with Affiliates

Jeff Rohrs of ExactTarget is moderating, and he introduces the first speaker Kris Jones from Pepperjam. Dealing with affiliates from an affiliate network perspective. Your Affiliate (aff) Network should stand as a resource to help you with understanding who your affiliates are (transparency) and how to identify and address channel conflict.

Four primary potential channel conflicts: direct linking, Trademark (TM) bidding; bidding on same keywords as you; promoting conflicting marketing messages. Direct linking occurs when an aff uses an aff tracking URL as the destination URL for PPC purposes instead of sending traffic through their own unique URL and landing page. Unfortunately for you, Google does not provide protection from this, so you must learn the rules to minimize. There is at least an easy way to determine if direct linking is occurring. How do you know how to see this? 3 step process. find advertisement, right click it, and observe properties.

Direct linking: learn the rules. Google only delivers one advertisement per unique destination URL per search result. This means that if your aff is direct linking, they may be the only one shown. Second conflict is TM Bidding. For many of you this is a serious concern, and you therefore include it in contracts as being not allowed. For those not preventing this, you may want to do so.

Third conflict is competing for the same keyword. Many advertisers complain that SEM affs run up the pricing for the same keywords the advertiser is trying to bid on. This is only true if the advertiser doesn’t have specific rules in place. Before you put a no PPC policy in place, realize that the search engine result pages represent available real estate for you and your competitors.

Final conflict is if your message is inconsistent with the one that affs present. Conflicting messages can occur with inaccurate products info, non-authorized banners/text links being used, etc,. He finishes off with a quick summary and repeats the 4 major factors.

Minimizing channel conflict methods: send a request to Google to disallow use of TM’d terms in ad copy. Amend your affiliate contract with a “no direct linking” or “no TM bidding” policy. Be very specific about what search affs can and cannot do.

He believes that one of the keys to decreasing overall conflicts is to increase transparency. Less is more, quality is better than quantity. Having insight into the exact sites you will be working with is much better. He finishes with some hints on how to make the aff channel work, which I unfortunately missed but maybe he will come in and post in the comments.

Next speaker is Jeff Molander from the Partner Maker. He apologizes that he will speak very quickly but he has a lot of info to cover. His argument is that “Yes, you should integrate affiliate and Internal SEM” and “No, TM usage rules are not the answer.” Everyone can win: think strategic and not tactical. There is too much focus on the TM issue he feels. Why are we even still debating it? There has been a failure to talk honestly about some of the strategic issues involved. The answer is a strategic realignment, and there is no gain without a little pain.

What marketers want: increasing incremental sales, decreasing double counting and wasteful spending. Less competition for customers in spaces they understand. The path to success is first audits, then new rules, then a strategic realignment.

What is an incremental sale? Simple answer is one that the advertiser would have had “no shot at” w/o help of third party media. Happy to pay for $$. More specific answer is that it relies on aff spending with mostly native traffic.

What is forcing the issue? The big guys that use TV, catalog, advertising, etc. Hence the Trademark issue has been pursued. The cause is not TM infringement. The cause is that marketers are measuring referrals beyond referrals.

55% marketers making 25%+ of sales from PPC and SEO. 29% make 50%+ of sales w/SEM. Forcing new questions…what do I want from affs? What have I been getting lately? Is this acquisition, retention, or both? he had spoken just before I tried to catch the stats above about how there is a difference between new customer acquisition (new to file) and a past customer coming back to the site through an aff link.

He talks about the strategic realignment need and defined it. Marketers need to firmly grasp what “good affiliate” means: using strategic goals and targets to find out what is new-to-file customer ratio; what order volumes; cost per order or lead. Assess this information and optimize your campaigns.

Tactics for marketers – need to make trench level change and perform routine transaction/action level reconciliation as needed. Get dirty, but get smart! Use a business analyst for this. State goals clearly up front in writing. state them clearly, repeatedly, and make them easily accessible. Show respect to affs and publishers.

What is needed? Strategic realignment. Affs/publishers should convert from a “traffic-shuttler” to a “traffic-seller.” You need as an aff to realize that you need to build a relationship. You have to go to conferences. Know what you are selling and sell it well. You are in business now, so marketers expect you to act like one. He also states that arbitrage is all but dead.

He had to rush through his last few slides because he ran out of time. He advocates getting flexible with payments, for example on a repeat sale from an existing customer versus a new sale.

The last speaker will be Jeff Ferguson from Napster. He gives and overview of Napster, and then introduces that he will be presenting some information of affiliate marketing from the client side. What better way to show how to make nice with your affiliates than using “politics and war.” He will be using analogies along these to help illustrate. In the beginning it was regimented management of affiliates in the “Dictatorship Era.” Very little growth came out of aff during this era.

Next was the “Highland Charge” which was when a bunch of unruly Scots would line up and look crazy to try to psyche out the competition. Napster got tired of competitors and other music entities buying up “Napster” and other branded keywords. They allowed the aff to start doing that and it was an interesting era in terms of results.

Next was the “Laisser-faire” era when aff and search “came home.” It was Napster’s brave move of shutting everything down and rebuilding it piece by piece. They stopped using search agencies and bought aff in-house as well. They hired people that would work well together and help to improve their system. They essentially allowed affiliates to do what they wanted. The results where that the aff program tripled in size. the SEM program eroded AP results, slightly, but the sum of the two programs was greater than its parts.

Last era is “fiscal conservatism,” or “last man in,” which came along with some new bosses at Napster. They were getting tired of paying for branded visits as they let the brand was strong enough to stand on its own. So they kicked out a bunch of affs and let people who would play by the new rules stay. They wanted to make sure that if people came in through those terms that they were identified. They don’t have results yet.

In the end, a balanced plan exists. They liked a lot about each of the eras, and have found the right mix to run their program.

This is live blogging coverage of SES New York 2208, so some typos or grammatical errors exist. Panelists or other attendees are encouraged to comment below to share any inaccuracies, and to help fill out the rest of the story.

posted chrisboggs in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 5:11 PM Comments (1)

SEM Small Business Blitz

This session will provide a rapid fire take on how to tackle the most popular SEM tactics with a small staff and an even smaller budget. Would feature practical, affordable ideas and real world examples on PPC, SEO, Viral, Blogging and Social Media.

This isn't a "how to do this" session so much as a "how to do it cheap and effectively" session.
Moderator:

* Carrie Hill, Search Engine Watch Expert and Certified Search Engine Marketing and Promotion Account Manager, Blizzard Internet Marketing

Speakers:

* Jennifer Laycock, Editor-in-Chief, Search Engine Guide
* Stoney deGeyter, President, Pole Position Marketing
* Matt McGee, SEO Manager, Marchex

Strategies that Don't Suck - presented by Stoney.

* keyword organization: once you have your keyword list, you want to know where to apply them to your site. Drive searchers to pages that best represents the intnet of the query. There are 3 types of searchers - researchers (info gathering), shoppers (comparisons), buyers (looking for best options). For researchers - they may or may not be a buyer. They are in the early stages of the process and are in the learning process. They don't know what they want necessarily. Shoppers are looking just for different sites to perform comparisons and are closer to a buying decision. They have a general idea of what they want. Buyers (best option) - they know what they want, they are ready to buy, and they know where to buy. You need to target your keywords to different types of the phases. Check your different keyword phrases - better conversions for longer terms but not as much traffic. Look at your budget and look at where to spend your money.

* website architecture: Title tags are really important but not many people seem to get it. Create unique titles throughout the site. Set up default titles for products. Site content: build unique content for each page. Don't rely on default product descriptions - unique content stands out. Also, have interlinking pages - link to related content whenever possible. Related products is a great way to do it (or related info) .

* getting attention: create a unique valuable resources. Know your unique value proposition. What can you do differently from others? Build information with blogs and articles. It's not what you do, it's how you go about doing it. Develop contributor products - engage known experts (e.g. Link Building Secrets Revealed - 11 experts provided a secret from their link building arsenal). Write authoritative articles, papers, and ebooks, and submit to magazines, blogs, and industry directories.

* PPC strategies: use the Google AdWords editor - export keyword lists, add comments to changes, and more. You want to look at measurements as well - cost/conversion is most important. Know your profit margin! Add your negative keyword list in there - perform keyword reseqarch to see what people type in. Avoid job seekers, researchers, education, bargain hunters, price shoppers, freebies, legal

* CodeMonitor Spy Tool: Stoney uses it for his clients. You can monitor your own pages and see when people make changes. You can see SEO efforts of competitors. You can get information on sites that don't have RSS feeds. You can also see Wiki site changes.
- Once you monitor a page, it highlights the difference - compare text, HTML, and browser view

Jennifer Laycock is up and she has no voice. :( She's talking about social media - you are your most effective online marketing tactic.
SMM isn't about how much money you have to spend. It's really about who you are as a company or individual. Look at who you are - that's the key.

Passion + knowledge = credibility
- Bento Yum - blocked search engines but saw community involvement.
- Traffic through Flickr - Take a little time and view community involvement as marketing time.
- It has to be ongoing
- Rule: despise no search traffic (even bad traffic)

Business + Blog = personality
- Try to educate your community. An example is the tinbasher, a blog for a metal company. It turned mundane into fascinating stories. Their gross revenues tripled after they put themselves out there. 30-40% of their sales are attributed to this blog. They had 3 employees, now 5. 50k uniques a month.

Video + Creative = Viral Love
Blendtec blender = Will it Blend? campaign
- First 5 videos cost roughly $100
- Crazy coverage and press - iVillage, Newsweek, Playboy, NYTimes
- Online sales quadrupled
- This shows pricewise that creativity can really covert.

Comments + Blogs = Exposure
Find other blogs and add quality comments to them.
- Comment early to grab readers' attention

Compassion + Freedom = PR Heaven
- I heart Zappos: someone bought shoes for her mother and her mother passed away. When Zappos emailed her about the shoes, she told them that her mother died. They ended up arranging pickup and even sent her a sympathy bouquet. She was touched and blogged about it. (For the record, I am wearing shoes I bought from Zappos.)

Takeaways: it's not about the budget. It's about the attitude.

The last person up is Matt McGee who talks about Guerrilla Marketing for small businesses - the problem with SEO and PPC. You create your campaign and you hope that the person types the right keywords. You hope that the searcher likes your product. You hope that he/she is finding what he/she is looking for.

HOPE is not a marketing strategy. (MATT SAYS THAT SEO AND PPC IS A BAD IDEA! OK, I'm kidding. He specifically addressed me to say that I shouldn't blog that. Too bad.)

Solution is Guerrilla Marketing. There are several places to do that -

What he means: it's not sabotage or illegal or anything spammy. It's unconventional, unexpected. It's marketing without making it look like it's marketing. The rules are - don't spam, avoid the hard sell, participate (connect, don't alienate), and contribute (put the community first).

Flickr - Matt loves this and he has great photos so I can't blame him. The heart of Flickr is the groups - enables discussion, shares photos, etc. Think about this - if you own a music store, you can join groups that are related to music (guitar world is one that he illustrates with thousands of members). Flickr also has place-oriented groups which works if you provide services to specific geographic areas.

Yahoo! Answers is another tool for information sharing and questions and answers. There are also groups that are targeted to specific geographic areas here as well. Yahoo answers says that it's okay to link drop as long as it benefits the user. He has the highest percentage of new visits and the lowest % of bounce rates among the top 5 referring sites (illustrated).

Other options: forums and mailing lists - newspaper forums are really big because their subscriptions are dropping. Yahoo Groups is a great mailing list platform as is Google Groups.

One of his personal favorites is freecycle.org. It operates on the Yahoo Groups platform. The idea is that my junk is your treasure - your junk is my treasure. I don't want something, you can have it. It also helps people get awareness of your services.

Does it work? YES. Cookie company had Flickr photostream and was found by CNN. They got profiled by CNN. freecycle.org - my wife is a real estate agent. We like getting rid of junk in our house - we have 3000 VHS videos. He told his wife, "you send out email to freecycle and add your company information to the signature." One lady came over and did business with his wife for buying a new house. COOL.

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 4:55 PM Comments (4)

Social Media Research: Informing Search Strategies

Moderator:
Pauline Ores, SES Advisory Board and Senior Marketing Manager, Social Media Engagement, General Business, IBM Corporation

Andrew C. Frank, Research VP, Gartner Media Industry Advisory Services is first up.

Marketing in the Spotlight:
- Losing:
-- Faith in the power of the mass media communication forms
-- Ability to control the terms of the marketing dialog
- Gaining:
-- Unprecedented quantities of data
-- Visibility into the public psyche
-- Scalable direct consumer dialogs, at marginal media costs
- Net:
-- As it masters the data, marketing will adopt a more strategic corporate role as customer proxy in consumer-facing organizations
-- New voice in product design, investment priorities, partnerships
-- New emphasis on transparency and responsiveness.

Are Brand Advertisers Ready to Take the Plunge?
- Shows a chart showing both answers

How Do We Use Social Media Info to Optimize our Media Mix, to influence our targeting models? A lot of this is to automate the advertising and agency model.

One of the key problems is that new media marketing organization is that they have too much information from very diverse sources.

Lots of people will supply new marketing intelligence platforms.

The landscape for social media metrics players include Nielsen BuzzMetrics (big player), other players include umbria, cymfony, buzzlogic, verisign, and many more...

Simplify and Test with a Phased Integration Approach:
- Portal integration: Leverage intranet portal deployment for rapid service testing and feedback
- Reporting integration: develop data dictionaries and tagging schemes
- Model integration: custom ETL and regression platforms
- Platform integration: process automation, cost and risk reduction

Jonathan Ashton, VP of SEO & Web Analytics, Agency.com is next up.

Social content gives you good linkage. You can see trends and react faster. Tagging already influencing your strategies. Certain types of search have moved off the SEs and into the social networks.

27 Social Network Tools:

(1) RSS
- Yahoo Pipes helps you filter

(2) News
- Yahoo News
- Google News
- PRNewswire Feed
- Reddit
- Newsvine
- Reuters
- Google Alerts

(3) Blogs
- Google Blog Search
- BlogMarks.net
- Technorati
- Blogpulse
- Conversation Tracker
- Blog Trends
- Blogger Profiles
- Co.Mments.com
- TalkDigger.com
- IceRocket

(4) Tags
- Simpy.com
- Keotag.com
- Ma.Gnolia.com
- Del.icio.us

(5) Images
- Flickr
- YouTube

(6) Bigger Tools
- Trackur.com
- Copernic.com
- Site Analytics from Compete
- Search Analytics from Compete


Rob Key, CEO, Converseon is last up.

The community is becoming the center of the web experience. 12 - 24 year old want a community experience. Within these communities, brands have not been invited.

As communities diversify, new cultures and language emerge. Key drivers of culture and language speciation
- isolation
- group membership
- time
- migration
- technological discovery

Words Die out and New Words Emerge

Principles of Effective Social Media Engagement:
- Listen First
- PArticipate and Learn
- Make friends with community elders
- Understand and respect community mores
- Lead with altruism, come bearing gifts
- Discover a community need
- Learn the linguistics
- Value and cultivate the relationships
- Leverage appropriately ... over time

If you don't do that, you may be "busted"... or taken hostage (shows second life hostage take over).

Free Tools:
- Yahoo Buzz
- Technorati
- IceRocket

Conversation Mining Tools also...
He shows some tools but doesnt name them.

Wait, it is a product he sells.. Ah...

Got to run...

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 4:47 PM Comments (1)

Keynote with Jason Calacanis - Official Launch of My Mahalo

Afternoon Keynote: Jason Calacanis

* Jason Calacanis, Founder & CEO, Mahalo.com, Inc.

(I'm sitting next to Allen Stern who already discussed this new development and it's now on Techeme. But you can read the other stuff now!)

First of all, Jason clears the air. He wants all SEOs to know he didn't mean to offend them. Some people think SEO is about gaming their way to the top rankings at search engines. Since then, however, Jason Calacanis has been educated about SEO and realized that there's more to it than that "black magic" stuff (which you know is "black hat SEO.") Does he feel that SEO is BS? No, but black hat SEO is BS, he says. "I do feel that the white hat stuff is very important... In some ways, I am an SEO. I'm a white hat SEO." If it's about building clean sites, that's what he does.

Now, the big announcement:

Mahalo was launched on May 30th of last year. Many people asked, "Isn't this DMOZ?" After all, the directory structure on the site looks like DMOZ or Yahoo Directory. That's intentional. But they said - DMOZ and Yahoo Directory failed for search queries. Why doesn't it exist? Yahoo Directory sold placement and removed human curators. It failed because they sold it out. Why did DMOZ failed? It was neglected. Both, however, were incredible at their respective times.

The next question is "How is this going to scale?" It's a tough question. Well, it works with a distributed workforce. The Mahalo Greenhouse was launched where people can work from home and build search results. http://greenhouse.mahalo.com's Most Wanted page shows the data. There are 400 people doing this at home. It's trailing behind Wikipedia and About.com.

He displays a graph of the projective cumulative pages and you clearly can see that the pages are only increasing in number.

"How are you going to keep this up to date?" Having seen delicious, SU, and Wikipedia use site owners, Jason knew that a lot of people want to keep pages correct. They can inform Mahalo when the pages are incorrect. Additionally, in December, they launched Mahalo Social where you can recommend links and update content. They look at everything coming in and build a trust score (which is working well). If you submit good links, you get trusted more often and don't have human review as frequently.

After Mahalo Social was launched, there was an incredible boost of cumulative recommended links. The monthly message board posts also increased.

"How do you reduce bias?" We'll discuss with anybody any time in public the order of the links we put on a page. If you disagree about a Google and Yahoo ranking, you can't talk to anyone. Mahalo has that feature -- and they have that conversation in public.

With recommended links, you can share it with many people on twelve social networks at this moment. New domains need to be validated by a human and old sites (over a year old) are considered (loose rule, he says). There are about 15k recommended per month. There is a high percentage of links that are accepted lately. Only a small number is banned. This is 9 months in and people are seeing good traffic with 4.1 million uniques in the past 30 days.

Where is all this going? Today, we (re)search with machines, experts, friends, and the wisdom of crowds.

If you do a search for the Macbook Air, for example, you might look at blogs, reviews, StumbleUpon, and the social graph (delicious, blog comments, Wikipedia, Digg, etc.) Now the social graph is being added on top of the search. This is called My Mahalo, the new feature at Mahalo. You can now see what your friends are recommending in terms of products, movies, services, etc.. If you don't have any friends, the most trusted Mahalo users' reviews are going to be posted first. There will be ratings on the right hand side and reviews will be on the bottom.
Push the social graph to when people want it: during the search. It's not valuable in Facebook or MySpace. You want this information when you're searcing.

The semantic web: Search for a movie that isn't out yet. Look at which friends are looking to watch that movie. Communicate with that person. Create a relationship between people and objects. We create states between people and objects. What's the state between you and a book? "read a book, reading a book, want to read a book." They'll start with movies, books, places, music, and products. As you look at his profile at Mahalo, there are other vectors in terms of the trust score: pages you've submitted, things you've reviewed, etc. If you trust people through their behaviors, they can contribute more to the site. The algorithm to determine this trust score at the time being is not yet determined; it needs careful study.

They also let people take information out of Mahalo and sync it with other services. An example is GoodReads (a bookworm site) - social networking for books. Using the Mahalo toolbar, if you go to GoodReads, it will ask you to import your book list into Mahalo. Now your books appear on Mahalo search results. This will work on other services as well: pulling your Netflix queue, your order on Amazon -- all of this is opt-in. He mentions that Chris Finke works for Mahalo. (I like Chris Finke.)

A lot of people don't want to give up Google or Yahoo. But if you do a Google and Yahoo search and you're a Mahalo user (AND you opt in), you can still get the same experience -- part machine, part human.

(He also says that Mahalo put a bid in for Yahoo. But he was kidding.)

Blended Q&A:

Q: Define what you think an SEO does.
A: My perception has changed radically. I think that affiliate SEO types are intelligent and hustlers. But I think that they are misguided in a way because they are "gaming" rather than creating a "value solution." The blackhats are polluting the web. Consumers don't trust the internet if the first 20 results are polluted. He mentions that he puts nofollow on stubs and tag pages to focus link juice on his stronger pages.
Kevin says that you shouldn't want to piss off black hatters.
If I'm technically able to take the number of results, should I do it? If you feel like you deserve the #1 site and someone who steals content is in the first position, you're upset with it. (They're schmucks, he says.)

Jeff Rohrs asks: You tend to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. But Mahalo supplants Google's paid listings in their results. Can you address this?
A: When people go to Internet, what they end up doing is their choice. (He's okay with AdBlock, etc.) It's their right to do - you can do whatever you want with your data.

Q: What is your approach toward linkbait?
He also thinks that you need to be authentic. Linkbaiting, he says, takes you so far. "15 ways to XXXXXX" is not authentic.

Q: You've repeatedly dumped marketers. The only positive message is that you want better website content. It seems that you shot the messengers and failed to understand the reasons behind the message. If you were a marketer, what is the best way to promote your content?
A: I think the best way to do it is to have a blog. Being real and making a good product is important. You should have an about us page that indicates that real humans are working behind it. People don't want to have products that don't have people around it.

He talks a lot about Allen Stern. It seems that he loves Allen.

Q: What about the long tail? Most searches have never been seen before.
A: I don't believe that one solution is going to solve the search problem. I think it's going to be a blend of techniques (not blended search, however). Sometimes machine search is the best. Sometimes human search (experts) is better. For mid-tail, social stuff is good. Sometimes you go to delicious because PHP scripting resources are very good there. Sometimes you go to Indeed to find a PHP job. The person who is going to win big is the person who figures out how to blend these different disciplines to build a single product. We had a lab and determined that people do not care about the layout of pages. They care about if the result is good. It was a real shocking lesson.

Q: How would you categorize the traffic relationship that you have with other search sites and where do you see that headed?
A: There are going to be a series of services that are dependent on search engines and some portions will be able to convert it to direct traffic. We saw a trend at Weblogs Inc. that 60% were coming from SEs, but a year or two in, 60% was direct. It converted users. In many cases, search gets it right. We're a content provider at the end of the day. We're in for the long term.

Q from Joost de Valk: You were speaking of becoming an affiliate marketer. Can you elaborate on that?
Jason: I'm learning a lot of affiliate marketing and I think there's potential there to create affiliate links (that are high quality) on some of our pages. They will be hand-picked. He's only really sold display advertising thus far but doesn't know much about it to say if it's going to work or not.

Q: Can you explain why you chose not to implement canonical redirects?
A: I wanted to have URLs that you can easily type - mahalo.com/keyword. When we started, that's how we installed it - I hated the SEO value of the other URLs.

Q: How to you categorize Mahalo contributors?
Jason: There's a large group of people who don't like FT jobs and do freelance stuff and have a passion for certain verticals, so if they can monetize that, it's a cool way to live their lives.

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 3:26 PM Comments (3)

Search Advertising 101

Paid placement is a form of search advertising that provides a top ranking in return for payment. Every major search engine offers a paid placement program. Learn what's available in this session that is especially geared toward beginners, with details on programs from major providers and advice on how to succeed.

Moderator:
• Allan Dick, General Manager, Vintage Tub & Bath

Speakers:
• Dana Todd, CMO, Newsforce
• Matt Van Wagner, President, Find Me Faster


Dana Todd

How many of you have been advertising on search engines for the past year or two? This is a beginning class, fundamental, because believe it or not there are thousands of people every day who are doing their first campaign online.

So, before you spend one dollar, I want you to spend some time in training. Every hour you spend in training is going to save you hundreds if not thousands of dollars in mistakes, missed opportunities etc. Google and Microsoft give you free wonderful training materials. A lot of stuff on the blogs doesn’t make it into the training material so check out the blogs too. The SEMPO Institute provides great online training, and there are free webinars on sempo.org. Do educate yourself. It will pay off.

Some of the best PPC managers are highly analytical people but if you are not don’t worry. This is a fairly linear progression. You need to start small, and test.

How many people know that you can buy your way into paid inclusion or paid submit? You should do it. This is where you can set and forget. Not huge volume, but it does convert. With Microsoft, you can buy your way into their shopping results.

You can also look at feeds like shopping search, white paper networks (tech target), B2B, of course the new Yahoo mobile, and of course yellow pages.com. You can do Pay Per Call too!

So how do you buy search?

- Flat cost per click
- Traditional ad auctions
- Hybrid ad auction networks like Google and Yahoo

With hybrid, your position in the ad queue is affected by quality position or quality score. That’s why it’s yield maximizing – or profit maximizing for the search engines. The hybrid auctions are blind auctions, so you are kind of guessing. It’s engineered to get as much possible money out of you as possible. This is though the most efficient ad buy on the planet. It’s a phenomenal change in advertising landscape.

Google is a bit more complex then Yahoo, they have quality score, and “other relevancy factors”. Quality score can ultimately affect your budget more than anything else so you don’t want to ignore it. If you have a low quality score you have to pay more. Be aware that you don’t want to get a low quality score.

Google will start looking at your page load times too which will start affecting your price.
You also will need to isolate low-impression keywords in Yahoo!

So how do you build a good campaign?

• Good tracking software! It’s really worth the investment because you will be able to get more out of it. You also need good Key Performance Indicators.
• Set values.
• Establish baseline metrics so you can judge your performance and test.
• Strategy – wrapped around your goals. What you would like to see happen.
• Money – of course you need a lot of money! Those who get the most out of search ultimately spend the most! If you can spend more you will find better efficiencies. However you need to be careful will this – diminishing returns!
• Rules – set rules. If a keyword does not meet certain rulles, get rid of it!
• Organize your campaign – don’t be messy.
• Keyword generation – you need several, maybe thousands.
• Controlling the ad distribution.
• Copywriting (last thing you do before you go live).
• Look at an ongoing ad schedule, keep it fresh.

After launching, continue doing your testing, bid management, and campaign optimization.

Setting base values and goals – Conversion. Can be anything that has any value! Whether it’s an engagement or a transaction. It’s ok to have conversions that don’t have dollar signs. 95% of transactions occur offline or in an extended space, so you are only getting part of the story online.

If you don’t know, it’s ok to guess! You can always modify your assumptions as you go along.

Easy math:

-What’s your gross margin?
-What is the conversion of your site coming from search?
-Multiply those and you will get your break even costs.

Keyword generation: Where do you start?

Your site, competitors, thesaurus, trade literature.

Brand names will typically be your best performers. Some people put their brand in and the portfolio looks great because they convert at much higher rates. Some advertisers keep brands and generic terms separate.

Negative keywords: Most marketers do not do this! If you don’t have filters set, your ad could be showing for some really ridiculous queries! Don’t worry about thousands, but you want some so it doesn’t bring down the overall campaign performance.

80/20 rule: 20% of your keywords will always drive 80% of your revenue.

Microsoft AdLabs: upstream/downstream. You can see what people are putting in. Google’s keyword tools are phenomenal. You should set up a seasonality map around your keywords.

Building the Ads: Because CTR is one of the most important factors, you want to focus on it. You want to pay attention because it will affect your price.

Make sure you put your keyword in the title and description. It works best! Searchers are very focused.

Choose appropriate landing page URLS, not necessarily always the homepage.

Use Dynamic Keyword Insertion! It’s an advanced concept but it’s a shortcut.

Searchers prefer uninterrupted logic (shows some good ad examples).

Schedule: Don’t just set and forget! It will tank if you leave it alone. Set aside a few hours a week. Map out a calendar of the campaign rollout, testing periods, promotions, budget changes. Schedule promotional and seasonal messaging.

Day Parting: time of day, days of week. Can help you save a lot of money. Overlay any expected seasonality. Schedule quarterly “housecleanings” to correct any coding mistakes. Test. Makes sure all the landing pages work and are correct.

Managing campaigns:
Daily budgeting technology is not perfect! Put your high dollar words in their own campaign to control that better.
Start out with a bang on Google – overspend for 2 weeks on Google to achieve a good quality score than pull back.

Google has a conversion optimizer, a budget optimizer, preferred cost bidding and manual bidding.

20% of ads need to be managed every day, especially high cost/high volume words. Others you may be able to ignore for a week.

Popular tools: Atlas, Keyword Bidmax, Omniture, SearchRev, Performics, Clickable, Adapt. But people are still required!

Are you paying too much? Improve CTR and landing page. Data equals money. Delete low performing keywords or pause/isolate them so they don’t bring down the overall campaign.

Final thoughts:

-Don’t be afraid to start small and grow your success.
-Don’t be so conservative – set aside 10% to buy crazy keywords and experiment.
-Reinvest a portion of profits back into budget
-Leverage the engines for knowledge but don’t believe everything they tell you.
-Provide enough resources to support the campaign.
-Strive for integrated strategy across all media.


Matt Van Wagner

The whole idea is that it’s not a set and forget. You need to be involved every day.

PPC is great because you can get people to the site for less money than it costs to run a newspaper ad! We show to people in the target area and it works great.

I also love PPC because it’s measurable. One client had a good product, good campaign but they were being too shy about their budget, so we increased it 3 fold – and they increased their returns 4 fold!

PPC and SEO are complementary. You can discover what words convert, and it gives you a predictable dependable flow of traffic. PPC allows you more control over messaging though. You can determine what page the user will go to, unlike in organic listings.

Your real advantage to PPC is your process! Other stuff like ad copy and bids get discovered. Just fine tune your process.

Make sure you align your PPC goals with larger company goals.

Be methodical. Google keeps a history log for 90 days of all changes you have made to your campaign which is great! You can see what you did when. Don’t be too trigger happy on the campaigns though.

Here is a structure of a PPC campaign: ad group, keywords, ads, landing pages. You need to think about the landing pages.

Keyword stuff: one of the biggest problems you can make is to not understand how the match types work.
Things like broad, phrase, exact and negative need to be your friends.

Broad match: present ads to greatest number of people with greatest keyword combinations. If you are getting too much traffic that’s unfocused, you can tighten it up with phrase match. It shows for less searches – shows the exact order of your query but you can have words before, and words after. If you really want to tighten things up – exact match: only and if only your query matches the keyword exactly.

Yahoo works in a similar way, they’ve got standard match which is sort of like broad match except you can’t differentiate between singular and plural. Advanced match will do queries in any order.

Use broad match to get going and then fine tune. I would recommend using one word keywords rarely, if it all, it will be too unfocused.

One you have the traffic you see what works, you narrow it down.

Negative match reduces ad impressions. Google gives you an infinite amount of negative keywords but be careful with this. MSN gives you 1,022 characters worth of negatives. Yahoo gives you 250 negatives at the ad level and 250 more at the account level. They just increased the number from 150 to 250.

Let’s talk about how we use this information (gives client case study of “sockmonkey.com”).

Where do your ads show?
There are 2 places. SERPs, and content sites. With the content sites users do not type in a query for your product, users encounter ads while they are doing something else. When you first start your campaigns, if your spend is equal, kill the content campaign right away and get the search part right. Unclick the content button in Google and move on, because you can rack up a lot of clicks.

Search ads give you more control on placement and more directly relevant visitors.

Content ads you have no control over, and traffic can be spikey – good or bad. Traditionally more click-spam lives on content sites.

Ads serve 2 purposes: They are designed to draw clicks, and they can also be designed to filter clicks! You want to make sure you use good descriptions that filter out irrelevant clicks. So it’s not always the case that you want the highest click through rate.

Writing ads: Which is the best ad? There are a lot of different styles. Price appeal, convenience, informational, we’re different from “them”. Get other people involved in ad writing because you have a specific style. Then test.

You need to take into account Conversion Rate. Not just CPC and CTR. Conversion rate will tell you what’s really the best-converting ad. Don’t get caught in this click through rate thing because it’s a partial result.

What is the primary goal of your campaign? Leads, sales, brand building?
How do you define success? Offline vs. online sales conversions.
How do you measure success? Google, Yahoo, and (soon) Microsoft Free Conversion Tracking. 3rd party web analytics tools. How much the phones are ringing. Hybrid reporting approaching using Key Performance Indicators.

So, how does PPC really work? What’s the best position for your ad? Does the highest bid always get the top spot? How much do I really pay? What is all that stuff about Quality Score?

In general, the higher ads appear, the more clicks you get and the more you pay. You don’t always need to be in the top spot though. Men and women search differently. Women will take a look at the page, scroll over a couple of links, take their time, and then they will chose. Men come to the page and click right away, they are fast clickers. So there is an anthropological basis. Women’s behavior translates into the online space! While men try to spread their seed as fast and far as they can! So if you are selling to women, maybe you don’t need to be in the top spot!

How the auction works: So you have a bunch of ads competing. The order should be the most relevant results on the top first, right? But advertisers always want to be in the top spot, so whoever pays the most is on top, right? So there is this hybrid auction to control this. It takes the maximum bid multiplied by the quality score and other factors.

So who wins this auction? It’s a combination. Maybe the most relevant is in the 4th spot because he is not paying the highest bid. Also, someone in a top spot can be paying less per click than someone in a lower spot.

When you organize campaigns, don’t name things “Campaign 1’” and “top keywords”. Give yourself a break. Put in the effort.

Geo-targeting is a really good tactic as well. Cool stuff.

Day parting is also cool. If you can’t do anything on the weekend, take your campaign off line! Google makes day parting very easy. Microsoft gives you the ability to do demographic targeting. Be aware though that Microsoft uses fractions while Google uses percent.

Use cool text manipulation tools which will help you.

Choose your battles and win.

Some wrap-up stats by the moderator, Allan Dick:

1. About 30% of searches have a local search modifier.
2. Start a campaign with exact match, then expand as you get more comfortable. Don’t start looking for all the taffic in the world.
3. Landing page optimization. Huge.
4. Capitalize the first word of your URL in your landing page! Makes it easier to read.
5. Misspelled words. Be careful.
6. Go through the SEMPO training. Just a tip.
7. When you have a question, ask people.

This session is provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 2:40 PM Comments (0)

Successful Tactics for Social Media Optimization (SMO)

Moderator:
Erik Qualman, Search Engine Watch Expert and Global Vice President, EF Education

Liana Evans, Director of Internet Marketing, KeyRelevance is up to talk to us about video sharing and rating/review sites.

(1) Social media is not new, it starts with message boards

Why Care About Social Media?
- More Opportunities in SERPs
- Creates an Engagement Opportunities
- Traffic to Site
- Links to Site
- Creates Buzz

Video Sharing Ties in How?
- How To Videos work well (she shows stats on search volume for some how to queries).
- "How to tie a tie video" query brings up videos in Google web search
- She shows examples of why videos with more views can be outranked by videos with better quality links

She now shows the Bare Escentuals video...

Li, don't hate me, but I am linking to your recent presentation at SMX, cause some of the content is very similar.

She explains that if Bare does videos on "how to apply makeup" they might be able to convert on that.

She then shows the hsn videos search results at Google. She notes the myspace profile ranks number one for "hsn videos." She then shows the Yahoo results for the same query. She then drills down on how YouTube, MySpace all show the HSM Videos. An HSN rep is responding to comments on videos, engaging with users.

It's not just YouTube, there are a ton of them out there...

What Matters with Video Sharing:
- Ratings
- Comments
- Title of Video, Social Media Profiles, Images,
- Keywords used
- Links to Videos

Social Ratings & Reviews
- People without blogs will blast you hear and people will listen
- People respect honest reviews
- Good reviews are great and have an impact
- Bad reviews have a worse impact
- Misinformation can be corrected
- Great place for a qualified and relevant link

She then shows the Yelp front page. Yelp pages can drive nice traffic. She shows how the reviews work, and so on. She then moves on to TripAdvisors reviews. Then she shows you how Yelp and TripAdvisor come up in the SERPs.

- Participate
- Monitor Reputation
- Track with Analytics

Jennifer Laycock, Editor-in-Chief, Search Engine Guide to talk about Flickr and Twitter.

Why Flickr?
- She shows how a picture can change your emotional reaction to content
- Flickr is doing well within image search (technorati uses Flickr)
- Yahoo loves Flickr images (they own them)
- Flickr has an engaged community, their are groups, comments, rating, etc.
- She showed one group about "edible gardening"
- Flickr allows you to embed links, which leads people to click on them (now nofollowed)
- You can email pictures from your camera phone to Flickr
- Join or create groups
- Publish from Flickr to Most Blogs
- Good privacy options
- RSS feeds
- Pro account is $25 per year
- Subscribe to comments on your pics so you can respond

Twitter:
- Micro-blogging (140 character limit)

- Networking Made Simple
-- It's an open form of eavesdropping
-- You can get both sides of conversation and expand your nrtwork

- Twitter is a great news source
-- Sites Twitter breaking news
-- It can go to your cell phone also

- Power of "ReTweet"
-- People might broadcast your twitters to their networks...

Twitter:
- Expand your network
- It's not stalking, it's observing
- Powerful traffic source
- Instant feedback source
- Free
- Limited by your creativity

Tamera Kremer, Founder, Wildfire Strategic Marketing to talk on social bookmarking.

It's kind boring compared to Twitter, Flickr and YouTube. But its part of the social media mix.

Social Bookmarking 101:
- Tag any page on the web
- Browser, blog, facebook, rss
- View how popular an article is
- Tag article with terms relevant to you
- Browse user tags by keyword
- Share links with others in your network

Delicious:
- 4 million users
- Over 100 million web pages bookmarked
- Yahoo bought them in 2005
- Tag clouds are prominently displayed on blogs
- Many A List bloggers use it automatically

Use Social Bookmarking to:
- Keep tabs on your brand reactions
- Augment your keyword research with delicious
- It optimizes your title tags (bookmarklets grab those title tags)

Case Study:
- They made a quick start guide for users to teach them how to use delicious for a client
- Participation increased ten fold after the quick guide

3 Ways to get Started:
- Set Up RSS Alert for your URLs
- Set up a personal account and start tagging
- Search through they keywords you associate with your brand and see what types of articles are tagged with that folksonomy

William Flaiz, Vice President, Search Engine Optimization & Web Analytics, Avenue A | Razorfish is last up.

The client web site is central to what they do.

- Social Bookmarking
- Wiki's, be careful with wikipedia, be active in the community
-- Take advantage of reference links
-- Other links, but they may be edited quickly

Photo Communities
- Loves Flickr (mostly same reasons as above)
- PhotoBucket been around for a long time, but not SEO friendly

Video:
- YouTube offers biggest benefit
- - Use the about this video section

Social NEtworking Sites:
- Facebook have fan pages or company pages
-- Facebook ranks well in SERPs so backlinks in those pages help
-- They used Facebook pages for a reputation management issues

Blogs
- ...

Content Creation SItes
- Like Squidoo

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 2:03 PM Comments (0)

Social Media Marketing - What is it and What is it Good For?

Marketing to and through social networks means humans are hot again. Not as directory editors; it's Web 2.0 and your customers are in control. The old-fashioned media buy has gone bye-bye. Social Media marketing is fast emerging as a must-have in search strategies. Learn about the social search revolution, and hear case studies of how marketers have successfully promoted brands and products with it.
Moderator:

* Pauline Ores, SES Advisory Board and Senior Marketing Manager, Social Media Engagement, General Business, IBM Corporation

Speakers:

* Conn Fishburn, Director of Social Media Strategy, Yahoo! Inc.
* Don Steele, Director of Digital Marketing, Comedy Central
* Chris Winfield, President, 10e20, LLC
* Jory Des Jardins, Co-Founder & President of Strategic Alliances, BlogHer
* Chris Beland, Partner, Director, Interactive Marketing & Social Media Practice , Ogilvy Worldwide

Conn Fishburn talks about the New Now (or How Social Changes Everything). Social media is the aggregate of human activity. You can't talk about social media without the people involved in it. He calls this the rise of the people. There are 6.5 billion people; there's a lot of crowding. Technology is improving.

There are over 800 million people online--there's an inflection point. In the last few months, the web is not modeled on existing behavior. It's a new medium in itself that has tremendous power and processing and lets people connect throughout the world. When you overlay that ability with people and their habits and behaviors and desires and passions, you get a fabric that creates a new experience for users -- and marketers.

10-15 years ago: We had dialup. We now have broadband. The youngest generation today doesn't know about the world without the Internet. We've evolved. They just are.

This is about a cultural change over technology. Social search changes things - layer people onto a technological system

The Killer App of the Web has always been other people. People create content and share them with other people. This is the backbone of what's happening. Humans are social animals and this has happened all throughout history.

What does this mean in the future?
We've gone from an evolution of "mass media" to "we media." It changed the way brands go to market because of the democratization and dialogue. Brands and companies are part of the cultural fabric now.

What is social media?
- Media is made by and for users in communities: posts, dialogues, etc. - over a shared cultural passion or interest
- A business model in which "our customers are suppliers"
- An advertising system in which people articulate their interests and passions and share marketing messages with each other. If you see your friend is a fan of a product on Facebook, for example, they are endorsing the product and it piques curiosity
- A new netowrk approach to soliving hard problems in networked information systems.
- Platforms, systems, and applications that connect media, technology, and people together into a processing and value-creation network

Influencers play a huge role in social media. However, a big influencer and a regular person has no better predictive evidnece in making something tip. Neither is a better indicator of what will catch on or what won't (according to Duncan Watts). What matters is the condition of the network.

People need to work together holistically. In terms of the conversation, you need to consider all other channels in search and put social into the match.

What to do:
First, listen
Second, become part of a story
Third, always bring some wine
Fourth, be good to your mother - have conversations with real people.
Fifth, think holistically
Social media is here to stay.

[Sorry, Search Engine Roundtable readers, if you've read Conn's earlier presentation that I liveblogged, this is all redundant information. He only added one new slide. :( ]

Chris Beland from Ogilvy is up next. His presentation is - web 2.0 and social media - why? What is this emerging proliferation of UGC and conversational marketing? We need to connect the dots so we looked at this.

Look at the numbers - the top 3 sources of credible information
- Recommendations from other people
- Newspapers - experts and pundits
- Consumer opinions posted online
Takeaway: Peer to peer or user generated is the number one source for "trusted" information and traditional sources continue to decline.

Does it make sense to tap into it as marketers? How many people are doing this?
- Emerging Vehicles - blogs, online games, social networks, virtual worlds, widgets and wikis are on the map as marketing tactics.
- They're also considered mainstream by the user audience. People expect brands to be very participatory on the web.
- Digital ad spending continues to increase and scale. These tactics will only roll out more.
People like it? Does it make sense? Is there a future? All yes.

Is it relevant to everybody? We took a look at B2B. 70+% of people when trying to make a business decision look at search engines for information. They are still looking for facts, features, functionality, where to buy, etc. They also look at contextual relevance and their peer groups.

What allows us to scale that is the fact that like-minded people allows us to target different groups and to establish that relationship and to start that conversation.

Does it work? Sites that utilize this technology (positive reviews, comment on experience) are converting more and are heavily trafficked.

There big plays as a strategic umbrella.
1. Listening as a disciplined marketing practice
2. Advocacy as a deliberate marketing channel. Use advocates.
3. Unlock and unleash content for wide distribution. There's a lot of great content so unleash it in a way that's relevant and credible.

Specifically, we mean:
1 - Listening as a marketing practice: passive listening (who is saying what, where, when , why)
- Active listening = engagement (transparent, commitment, context/value proposition)
2 - Advocacy as a marketing channel: measure, impact, and activate audience's propensity to recommend the brand. You need word of mouth marketers and give them a platform to evangelize for you. There are a lot of ways to do this; give them early access to a new piece of content.
3 - Unlock and unleash content: earned media to accompany paid plans: enable and encourage audience to share content. Aggregate it, make it available, etc.

What a new plan might look like:
Current: DM/media, email, landing page, content syndication, and search
Tomorrow: Listening posts (listen to what people are saying), search/content syndication, influencer engagement, advocacy activation, DM/media, email, dynamic landing pages (multivariate) rich media, earned media, other emerging channels, and closed with a listening post.

Quick example: Cisco - engaged 14 bloggers in the technology space about the human network. It became often talked about and dominated search rankings. It even had a Wikipedia for awhile.

Quick story: I stopped my phone in a puddle. It died. I realized I'd buy a new toy. I went to the Verizon site and saw features and functionality but it doesn't tell me if I can hear it on a rainy NY street. I went to Google and got as much inforamtion I could. Google gave me a lot of information -- too much. I went to Technorati (blog aggregator) and checked the phone models - lots of great information but it wasn't really relevant to me. Then I saw videos at the bottom of the page. The information I found was exactly what I was looking for. Some guy was passionate about it and put it on the web. You might ask "who has time for that?" If a small amount of people does this, though, it's still incredibly valuable. There are a ton of videos like these that are contextually relevant! Pull that into your product's web page and put a spotlight on the individual. That's pretty powerful. If you combine that, you have an influential program that crosses across different channel.

Payoffs
- Domination!
- (and some other stuff he said really quickly)

Chris Winfield is up next and he's talking about tagging.

Social news and social bookmarking websites are great for discovery. A lot of people don't know you exist and they're not even considering searching for you. The most important thing is influence: millions of people are on these sites everyday and they want to hear from you. You should leverage that.

Three sites: Delicious, StumbleUpon, and Digg

Delicious is a social bookmarking site that's part of Yahoo. There are other sites like Clipmarks, Blinklist, and Furl all work the same way.
How does it work? Save a page you like. You can add notes and tags.
It also works for discovery: people can discover pages by tags/network/popularity.
What works? Lists (which have worked throughout time), resources (how tos), tools
Advantages for marketers - why you should care: influencing people, look what people have saved (e.g. Steve Rubel's RSS feed)
There are 2 things that are important in del.icio.us: homepage and popular page, which has frequently tagged pages. Those are very popular methods to drive traffic to your website.
In the future, delicious might be integrated into search results.
Example: AJAX translation tools - 667 people bookmarked it. 9500+ visitors in the first 24 hours plus a few hundred per month since. It helped to build over 800 links to the page.

StumbleUpon is a web browser plugin that allows you to find cool new things. It's owned by eBay and has close to 4.5 million users. How does it work? The toolbar can be downloaded and works for FireFox or IE. You stumble pages, you say I like it or Not for me and you can network with people based on similar interests.
What works? A great thing to look at is buzz.stumbleupon.com. The bigger the word, the more interested people are in that content. There's a really wide variety of sites featured there. SU is important to apply: catch people's eyes very quickly. People click the button over and over at work so you want to keep them on your page. It's so easy to click that button!
Videos and images work really well as do eclectic pages (humor).
Advantages for marketers: rapid and consistent traffic quickly. Increase your audience base. It also increases RSS subscriptions. Also, tags show up in the search results.
Example: a company that sells customized magazine covers - most bltant use of photoshop in magazines and ads. It did very well: 68,522 visitors out over 90 days. 38,000 of those visited more than 3 pages. It helped build over 600 links to the page.

Digg is the last one: user driven social news site--democratic news. Over 1,000,000 registered users and 25million uniques per month. Reddit, Propeller, and Shoutwire are similar sites. Yahoo Buzz is a relatively newcomer to the space.
Articles, images, videos are submitted by users, and based on the algorithm, if enough people like it, it's going to go to the homepage.
What works? Lists (top 5 mythbusters segments), technology/politics/health/business, self help/how to get around things
Advantages for marketers: traffic (typically between 10k and 60k visitors in a 24 hour period). Exposure: getting in front of thousands of new people who probably wouldn't have come into contact your brand normally. It is also able to influence. People blog about content on Digg. It then goes to another social site (Reddit, SU, shoutwire, etc.). Then it goes to government websites, mainstream press, forums, non profits - everone keeps looking.
Example: Top 11 Underground Transit Systems in the World. 151 comments with the majority being positive. Over 20k unique visitors in 24 hours. Spread to other social networks. It spreads to influential blogs. Over 1000 natural links. Over 100,000 visitors over 24 hours. Over 200 new email list signups, 12 new bookings directly from blog referrals. 75k visitors from Google in the past 9 months.

Tips:
Promote great content.
Build your networks. Be social!
Contribute to the communities. Don't churn and burn. Long term relationships will suffer.
Make sites work together (save site on digg, delicious, etc.)
Have good hosting

Jory from BlogHer (she's an evangelist there) is up next. She talks about Managing the Unavoidable - building a brand in the blogosphere. The biggest fear of any brand is that someone will say something about your product. If you avoid the blogosphere, you miss out on opportunities and people will talk about you anyway, so you might as well approach the blogosphere with defense, not offense.

Bloggers like to ego search. Jory searched for her name on Google. She was showing up in results 2, 6, 7. Blogs show up first. Commenting on blogs can help - do a search for your name.

She used to write about products that upset her (Chase identity theft). She called Chase and told them and they ended up sending collections on her. This was 2.5 years ago, and even though it's old news, she's #25.

Example Elise Bauer - she ranks very well for terms that trump brands. Blogs can trump brands.

How do you deal with bloggers in a way that doesn't hurt your brand, or if you don't want to engage bloggers, how do you deal with them in a way that makes you look good?
Big gripe: I do not want to put out my product in case a blogger may say something negative. Fear of "brandicide."
What's the worst thing that can happen when you put your brand out there? Harper Collins had BlogHer promte their books. They provided 50 copies of books to bloggers. Not every blogger wrote about it and not every blog was positive, but sales still shot up! People were talking about the books and that was good enough.
Example: Dove - give away schwag - People review it! (Hello!!!!!!!!!!!)

You do get credit for trying.

Takeaways:
- Avoidance is not a strategy.
- When in doubt, engage.
- If touchy feely just isn't in your DNA, play defense

Don Steele is next. He usually talks about Wikipedia. Not this time!

Comedy Central likes to let fans and people rise to the top. That's part of their SM strategy.
Audience: 18-34 who live in digital space. CC as a brand must understand how, why, and where they're doing it. The audience is not necessarily finding CC by searching for "comedy central." Realization: don't just build a walled garden. Talk about it, engage, and benefit.
CC people in programming perspective - funny, engaging, suprising, and smart. From digital marketing perspective: discoverable branded, portable, smart
We are producing professionally produced content so it has to be branded. Understand what it looks like, that it's tagged correctly, etc. Be smart - transparent in what we're doing - identify yourself as a CC person.

One of the things they used is to talk about their social media plan: it includes Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Funny Or Die, Break, MySpace, CollegeHumor, DailyKos, Fark, Perez Hilton, and the Huffington Post. Look at all these sites and see how our audience is being represented there. FB has groups about all of our shows; make sure we're building applications in these spaces. Make sure we're addressing concers. CC content is on Digg, Reddit, SU - we don't advertise there.

Examples:
- Facebook application (Root of all Evil show - Which one is more evil?) - brand participation
- Outreach: talking to bloggers all the time. Embed content from CC.

Equation: CC programming + (online advertising + search) * social media efforts = smart digital strategy

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 11:21 AM Comments (1)

Widgets and Gadgets are taking over, but what are they?

Kevin Ryan is the moderator of this panel. I just made it in from crazy NYC traffic with 15 minutes to spare. Love that Hilton parking, incredibly convenient, trust me a I pay for it. Ryan introduces the wrong person first but we are back on track.

Speaking of widgets, make sure to add our Search News Facebook Widget.

Jeff Williams, Associate Director, Creative, DIGITAS is now up.

Advertising Perspective:
- Is it advertising? Yes, Widgets hold interesting creative possibilities with consumers, a branded lifestyle experience, and create brand awareness and direct response objective and widgets are tactics that advance a broader online strategy or concept.
- Realities Are, every pitch concept now includes a widget, they can leverage Facebook, Google and Yahoo, the hottest trend right now is the "grabable banner," big brands seeing value in these widgets, and viral metrics are the most compelling aspect of widgets.

He then shows an example of a 'grabable widget.' You can place these on many pages easily.

He shows an example of a Google Gadget for Kraft. The Gadget takes content from the web site and ports it to the iGoogle page's Kraft widget. It gives you a recipe every day.

Next is an American Express "members widget." They made a widget for "Members Project." People would suggest projects to AMEX and the widget would show the new projects. One person wanted to plant a million trees, etc.

Promoting - Key Factor
- 'Grabable banners' media
- Existing marketing CRM
- Corporate web site
- Offline
- Social networking platforms (facebook apps)
- SEM
- Mobile

Jeff's Widget Quick List:
- Is the widget to brand or for direct response?
- If branding, hwo does it enhance the overall campaign concept or brand strategy?
- If direct response, does it create a response?
- Is it useful to end user?
- Does all the functionality exist in the widget?

Marc Johnson, Chief Marketing Officer, Hitwise is now up.

He first shows his Apple Dashboard widgets...

The Hitwise widget has a "3-in-1"combonent:
- Targeting broad data enthusiast market
- Extension of dashboard, blogs, rss
- Example of technology leadership

He then shows examples of the three different versions of the Hitwise widget.

Results:
- Since launch in August 2007
- 2,021 downloads of widget from hitwise.com
- 1804 Google gadget downloads
- 3,919 Yahoo gallery
- Total 7,744 total downloads

Christian Oestlien, Product Manager, Google AdSense is next up.

History:
- Konfabulator in 2003
- Yahoo Widgets in 2005
- Google Gadgets in 2006
- Microsoft Gadgets in 2007
- Facebook Apps
- Google Gadget Ads recently

Gadgets let you move into a delivery mechanism, like your mail comes to you, so should marketers (they should come to you).

He then showed the nissan live traffic gadget, which has live traffic. It is useful and free.

22% of marketers in 2007 said they used gadgets. 47% in 2008 said they will start using these gadgets. So the eye balls are there.

James Welch, Head of Research and Development, GetUpdated is next up. They advertise here, so they must be good at what they do. ;-)

He is talking more about the Google Gadget Ads...

What are the early adopters and ad creator saying?

We are in the infancy right now. The ideas are being lead by the technology people, but the ads are very easy to create. The driver really needs to be from the marketing department, not the tech people.

Current Examples:
- He showed the Nissan Example that Google showed. He pointed out the zip code feature...
- Most famous gadget ad is the "kickin it old skool" ad, see here.
- He then shows an interactive example of CareerOne (over here)
- Peugeot ad is cool (see here)

Results:
- High interaction rates
- High CTR
- Everyone is Happy

Use Gadgets For:
- Brand Awareness
- Generate Leads
- Introduce Your Site
- Improve Reputation
- Collect Data/Content

Creating a Good Ad:
- Do not mislead users
- Conform to IAB standards
- No Audio on load
- Keep ads under 40k
- Keep animation under 15 seconds
- No downloads within ads
- Create an easy to click outgoing link
- Keep outgoing links underlined

Future:
- Open Social will increase delivery
- Mobile
- Geographical and context awareness
- Improved use of rich media
- Intelligent APIs etc.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 11:08 AM Comments (2)

Morning Keynote: Search Has Changed Everything... And So Can You

Search engines have forced an entirely new dynamic in how connected humans access information. Successful traditional brands along with new entries into the space learn to roll with the changes... even if that means a transformation in how they do business. The death of traditional information sources is often grossly exaggerated. In other words, winning in the Interactive world means combining the best of the old and the new. Mr. McLeod will discuss how a world renowned and highly respected publication changed how they do business in a search driven world. You'll walk away with a better understanding of making the right moves can help you make the most of our dynamic universe.

* Gordon McLeod, President, The Wall Street Journal Digital Network

The theme, Gordon says, is about "old content guys catching up to search," specifically about how traditional media has approached search.

He talks about the Wall Street Journal Network which includes MarketWatch, FiLife, All Things Digital, and Barron's Online. 25million unique visitors. "Financial news with some tech put in there." They are aiming to build the individual brands within the network.

A brief history: in 1996, Google was a glimmer in Sergey and Larry's eyes, we had no idea what we were doing. There were 50k subscribers and paid pages were prevalent. There were 4 firewalls around the site so you HAD to pay to access the content.

In the early years, they got a sense that while search was not part of the conversation, they needed to grow. They spun out classified sites and other real estate sites. Some of the content was outside the wal to drive sales. Relatively small efforts were made. They got serious in 2003-2004 when people started talking about search. They spoke with Google/Yahoo and SEO became part of the language. The initial reaction, however, was not so much about search; it was more about acquisitions and they acquired MarketWatch at that time. The Journal was a paid site; MarketWatch was free. They also filled out the network. Barron's is a paid/free site which was rolled out during the time. eFinancialNews in London was also rolled out. Most of what was launched was free content as well during this time. There were 800k subscribers.

Last year was "our big year, but then again, we're a content company first." Dynamic sitemaps were implemented. URL structure changed. There were proper redirects especially since they kept changing headlines on some articles. They realized that they didn't know exactly what they were doing so they got a consulting expertise. Search was not part of the sweet spot.

Last year: AllThingsD.com was also launched on a WordPress platform. It's a free site on an SEO-friendly platform. Again, we're thinking more about search and free content especially where it can be found and indexed. For Barrons, it wasn't growing that much - it was a relatively specialized journal. It's a weekend publication for investors. Their model is that everything on Monday at 3 gets free, but subscribers will get a 2-day head start. MarketWatch community looks for high quality links. They still get nervous about user generated content but are getting over it.

Also, last year, free content on the Wall Street Journal became more prevalent. "Business of Life" was offered as free content. "Snippet" page has 2 free paragaphs. There's one click free access from Google and Digg: you'd get the article for free before getting the subscription wall. Slowly, and relatively quickly, we rolled out new approaches to drive subscriptions. It's not a bad businesses because there are 900K paid subscribers at a market price of $99/year with a 77% renewal rate.

Essentially, it's working. Content companies often say that WSJ is the best but it doesn't rank as high. Things are getting better, however. He shows a search engine traffic graph of organic growth but says "we don't do any SEM." REferral traffic from search engines has more than doubled since October 2006.

2008 and beyond: There are no excuses; you need to be really aggressive with search. In the last year, there has been a lot of talk about making the WSJ free. It isn't quite playing out that way; they like ad sales growth, but the traffic grows more than the sales. They are building a hybrid model. There's a greatly expanded sports section and other expanded free content. They attribute growth to being smarter of servicing content and enabling it through growth.

The other big change is that they have been rethinking site search. They are selling subscriptions, but that's really it. "People are not on our sites to buy. In terms of our environment ... how can we think about the site ... to drive a better user experience?" The site search feature is being rethought. In MarketWatch, they call it "universal search" with blog content, videos, articles, articles from other sites in the network, and the goal is to drive a strong user experience.

He talks about his competitor, CNN, which combines web search with site search. It's very user friendly with sponsored links. He shows us the NYC crane collapse search which combines results from other sites, like NYTimes. As we all get a little more flexible, not only are we letting our content show up on other places but we also let other people's content show up on our site. We know that we don't have the best stories on every subject so we are open to that exposure for other mediums.

If Google or Yahoo or Ask are in the search box, people may use it more often. He's thinking about that. He wants people to stay on the site to perform search. He thinks that the Google branding of the search box may improve search loyalty within the site.

The reality of search, especially for site search, is that you only use it when you fail -- like when you hit a brick wall. It's a notion of using search as a key platform. It's a smart way to go - rethinking the way we deal with our content.

What lessons have been learned? A lot of it had to do with catching up. We don't use SEM on the content side of the business (at least). Our most recent lessons:
It's taken us a little bit longer to realize that our content can be in other places. They have RSS feeds. "We do very well with Yahoo." We use this content to reach new audiences. There's a Lumia application with Facebook that helps expose the network to different users. Cell phone usage is expanding as well. Most of this new distributed content isn't search friendly but it helps reach other audiences. Video is great because you can put it on your blog (he calls this UDC = user distributed content).

"SEO is not a project" - all developers are going through SEO training and it's starting to become a way of life. It's an evolution of what the content companies are going into.

There's a debate still about "free is good." There are 1.1 million subscribers (paid) and 14.7 million monthly visitors (as per Omniture, not subscriber). He likes those numbers and wants them to grow. The Journal publishes over 1000 pieces of content a day. Serving that content is such an upside for us, he says. "Yes, I want some paid content, and yes, we want free content."

Do you hire SEO staff or do you do it internally? Do you build your community or does someone else do it for you? There are about 100 people on the engineering and technology team, but "a lot of things we don't do very well - and some things we do very well." They had to talk to a lot of vendors and realized that it's better to build internally. When Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg wanted to do this (for AllThingsD and MarketWatch), they wanted it to be light and flexible. They went right to WordPress with a loosely aligned team and it took less than 6 months to get it up and running.

He is showing a graph from Hitwise that indicates that content is back. Great content is important. I think we're catching up. I think the journal has by far the best business content. I think we want to be ranked high on search engines and I think that they want us to be ranked up there. It's really up to us to catch up. We've changed the way we process content and we need to serve the CMS in a way we've never thought of before. We're far more aggressive and are far more open about seeing our content in other places. We're not growing fast enough to pay for that expensive content but we're confident that it's growing in the right direction.

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 19, 2008 9:38 AM Comments (1)

Search Engine Friendly Design

How can you build a web site from the ground up that pleases both crawler-based search engines and your visitors? Discover how "search engine friendly" design can tap into free traffic from search engines. This session is especially suited for beginners who need an overview of important design issues to keep in mind.

Moderator:

Mark Jackson, Search Engine Watch Expert and President and CEO, VIZION Interactive

Speakers:

Eric Papczun, Director of Natural Search, Performics
Matthew Bailey, President, SiteLogic
Craig Hordlow, Chief Search Strategist, Red Bricks Media


Contributed by Sheara Wilensky of Promediacorp.

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Mark Jackson:

Wanted to start of with a couple questions – how many people here would describe primary role as web designer? Marketing? Just SEO’s? I think we’ll have a good amount of information here to digest, as well as some entertainment value.

Here is Eric Papczun:

Eric:

How many people are new to SEO? OK, good, we have a little bit for everybody here. Let’s first understand the basics of search friendly design, which covers indexation, making the crawlers able to find the great relevant content you all have. Some of us forget sometimes that the job of crawlers is extremely difficult and we don’t make it easy sometimes. They have a one size fits all tool that needs to understand each website, but the reality is all websites are unique, life snowflakes.

So we will also talk about content and making it clear and organized so the engines understand it, as well as some of the friendlier design techniques.

The first things we want to do is get crawled and indexed. Think of each website as its own town. You want to make sure it’s all compliant and within code. So take a look at the Google webmaster guidelines which is a great place to start. Also if you are building a new site the best thing you can do is find a link to a site that has already been crawled and link it back to you. For the designers, I urge you to go out there and read about sitemaps and robot inclusion files and things related to that.

First I want to go back to the metaphor of a town. We want to make sure it’s easy for us to navigate and understand where things are, a good address system to follow, so we can find any geographical location within each town. So the big test is when you create a URL, is it unique, meaning there is no other page that has the same URL, and there is no page that shares two URLs. A lot of sites have this problem and make it difficult for the crawlers.

Parameters are variable, not constant. When you get domains that start passing dynamic variables through the URLs, there’s a chance the URLs would change depending on how you navigate to that page. If you are tracking visitors on your site, you don’t want to necessarily track it through the URLs because that could create problems. Also, no session IDs!

Flatten the folder structure. Most important directories and pages should be as close to the center as possible. Whatever the first or second layers, are easier for the search engine’s to find and rank for content. When you get 5, 6, 7, 8 directory levels down it gets harder for the search engine’s to find that content.

We also recommend – don’t let URLs die. If you do a redesign, instead do a 301 redirect which is a “change of address” form for the engines.

We also want crawlable navigation. The infrastructure – make it easy for folks to get from A to B, not just in one way, but let them have multiple paths. The better the navigation, the more success you will have with the crawlers. I love breadcrumb navigation. It makes it clear to humans and to engines where you’ve been.

We love global footers. We recommend you put your main sections of your site that are most important to you and to users.

Avoid basic mistakes like duplicate content, dead-end and orphan pages. Duplicate content is difficult for the search engines and your page can get dropped.

Build the most robust and comprehensive site map which is a wonderful way for content to be found. Read more about it online, I highly recommend it, if your infrastructure fails, at least they have a file they can go to that lists all the URLs.

Robot.txt – gives instructions to the search engines when they come to your site. They are rules saying what can and can’t be crawled.

One of the greatest things is that Google has provided us with a reporting dashboard to show how crawlers are seeing your site. If you haven’t done this I would strongly recommend doing so.

Content:

Let’s assume now we’ve done everything right. Now we want to make sure we are optimizing the good relevant context. Put your pages to the test – do I have clarity about what this page represents? Look at the title and meta data. If it doesn’t have a focus to you then it doesn’t have a focus to your reader.

Alignment: once you distill what that landing page represents, make sure you put that description in your title tag to show how your page is unique, then make sure the design is neat and consistent.

Make sure when you do your title and meta tags, that you not only think about ranking, but also when someone goes to a search engine results page, you want yours to stand out. Ask yourself how are you different from all these other listings that might show up for a keyword.

Tips:

I love flash, javascript and ajax, but we have to use these things judiciously. We love lakes and rivers, they are beautiful, but we don’t want to flood out city! Surround them with HTML.

Next up is Matt Bailey of Site Logic:

Search friendly design is one of the most critical parts of building a site and SEO. You can have the best staff of SEO, bit if ain’t crawlable it won’t matter! The first we look at is the architecture and the programming. You gotta fix the foundation before you fix the house.

It’s important to allow access to your site to EVERYBODY.

I wan tom talk about target,com who is being sued because they don’t have a good site for the blind!!!
1) lack of alt tags. That’s all! That’s the number one thing people are asking for!! And they won’t do it!!!
2) Image maps without alt texts
3) You need a mouse to navigate their site.

So this site is not only blocked to users, but to search engines too because search engines see the same as the blind!

Google wants your website in their database. The more info they have the better info they can present to users, who are their customers. So their guidelines tell you how to use it! So if you have an artist who is being difficult, tell their boss to make them read Google guidelines! Who is right?

Search for the web accessibility checklist by W3C and see how your website measures up. It’s almost point for point the same as the Google guidelines. Why? Because search engines can’t see, hear, click – they are the most disabled thing that will come to your website!!!


My definition of accessibility is that your site should be available to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Target – the alt attribute is necessary because if you have info inside an image, the search engine won’t know what it is! Look at what’s contained in the image – the sales info! If you can’t see it you won’t know where to click to get the sale price! So Target has gone to extreme lengths to not let people use their website!

There are other sites that make a user select a country or a language on the home page in order to proceed on the site – from a drop down box – and that stops the search engines in their tracks!

Cluttered URLs – before you start an SEO campaign, look at the URL! My rule of thumb is if the URL is longer than the bar…you need to do something! Not only shorter, but use a favicon! It’s a great way to brand your website! It’s just a little graphic icon that appears next to the URL which makes it easy for branding and bookmarking! Do it.

Education on CSS –

I love it. Because it puts the emphasis on the content rather than the markup - all that geek stuff goes in an extra file. So now the search engines don’t have to parse through the code, they can just get the content.

Linearization – search engines read from left to right and tables go top to bottom so it’s a mess for the search engines. If you use a table-based layout you will get a chunky website in a mobile device. CSS is great b/c it’s cross platform.

Check out CNET – they have gone completely CSS – no smushed together table structure and the search engines are reading the content exactly as it appears on a page, and looks beautiful on a mobile device.

Validation – helps find mistakes, tags that are left opened etc. fix them and the rankings will go up by the search engines will read the site properly.

Architecture (breaks down navigation of gobreck.com)

How do I get where I want to go? Make sure the path of information is consistent for the search engine and the searcher. This site is a mess.

RapidCity South Dakota – they have a good navigation structure, breadcrumb navigation which lets us know where we are. We know where we are because the page is highlighted and there is an arrow. We can rely on the navigation structure which is crawlable and keyword rich so it’s great for users and search engines. Don’t ever ever change your navigation midway through the site, keep consistent throughout.

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Next up is Craig Hordlow.

An intervention happened to me because I had been sending a lot of negative emails to the creative services team at my company telling them flash has no value at all. So I stand here now before you as a recovering flash hater. I was cured by learning about the workarounds! It’s all about exceptions.

Why did I end up in an intervention? There are two audiences on your website. Search engines and humans. But we also have 2 producers - the designer and the SEOs. You typically hear an SEO say don’t use flash and avoid it, and designers say use it, it’s cool.

Rich Intenet Applications (RIAs) are here to stay. You need to be prepared to deal with them. Last year Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were interviewed at a conference, and Bill Gates said about RIAs – “We’ll look back at this as one of the great periods of invention”. So SEOs can’t keep saying don’t use flash and emerging RIAs!

I spoke at an adobe conference about RIAs and SEOs. I reviewed techniques to accommodate rich internet applications. Here is one I came up with that I call my CSS Silver Bullet. Ironically the first time I implemented this was on Adobe’s website. If you look at the Creative Suite 3 homepage you will see tabs, navigation elements that if you were to click it would lead to a whole new page, but the URL doesn’t change. A first reaction by an SEO is – that’s bad, we need a unique URL on every page! Well, yes, but no. You can have a page that is largely in flash, but the flash needs to be embedded. The workaround is that there is a tab you can click that can have a degree of visibility that does not compete with flash, or the SEO content just unravels when that is clicked. All you need is one little tab to maintain the SEO integrity of a flash page. We are using JavaScript to toggle through that search engine friendly content. The content is typically kept in CSS. Unless the user hovers or clicks, the user does not see the content. So how is this CSS table thing useful? All you ask of the designer is to create one SEO tab!

So what is the objective? To let the RIA developer or designer have their freedom.

However, there are some considerations:

- Do not abuse this technique.
- Never make the trigger invisible
- Have integrity about the content you place in your tabbed area.

Developers are way ahead of the search engines’ ability to index this content. So it beckons the question – when the hell are the search engines going to catch up?

I think we need the text-based sites for another 5 years or more. Google will rely increasingly on its Google websmaster tools to handle issues in general. The engines will eventually (way in the future) rely on a hybrid model of personalization, click-metrics, RIA indexing, and text-base indexing.

Coverage was provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 6:05 PM Comments (5)

Earning Money from Contextual Ads

Contextual Ads Track
Earning Money From Contextual Ads
This session looks at the way publishers can generate revenue by carrying contextual ads offered by major networks. Learn about some programs out there and tips on getting more from the ads you carry.
Moderator:

* Chris Boggs, Search Engine Watch Expert and Manager, Search Engine Optimization, eMergent

Speakers:

* Bryan Vu, Manager, AdSense Online Sales and Operations, Google
* Cynthia Tillo, Product Evangelist for Advertising Services, Adobe Systems
* Jennifer Slegg, Owner, JenSense.com
* David Singh, Head of Search Practice Area, Underscore Marketing

JenSense is up first.

What are the most common sites for monetization? COntent rich sites, blogs, business sites, UGC, social media sites, forums, password protected pages, and searches

How do you want to monetize? You need to balance user experience with monetization. If your goals are that you want repeat visitors, you need to make user experience the priority. If you just want to make money, your priority is monetization. It's difficult to achieve both but it can be done.

When shouldn't you monetize with contextual advertising?
If you're a business selling products, why would you entice customers to click ads rather than buy from you? Similar, business sites that sell services have the same problem.
Any sites with content that is against AdSense polices: hacking, gambling, adult, designer imitations, weapons, etc.

Beyond AdSense text ads - there are more than just text ads: image ads, video ads, link ad units, CPA and referral ads, AdSense for search, and AdSense for Mobile.

Common AdSense problems and solutions:
- Section targeting - emphasize a section on your site and deemphasize navigation, for example
- Add meta tags - this can be helpful
- Proximity keywords
- Contact Google: use this as a last resort (only if you're seeing golf ads on a site about knitting, for example)

Low CTR Rate - how can I ge a higher CTR rate?
- Get better positioning but consider user experience priority
- Change title colors - hyperlink blue and same as other outgoing links
- Borders vs. no borders: it actually works better sometimes.
- Image ads: especially on pages that are very text heavy.

AdSense Secrets
- Enable image ads on AdSense for an image-only secondary placement. Add a second ad unit that is image only - not many text ads on the page - different visual for people on the site.
- Also helps you take advantage of CPM ads.

Ensure that the ad unit with the highest CTR appears first in HTML code.
- This ad unit will generally have the highest earing ads.
- Use multiple channels to confirm highest
- Don't confuse appearing first on the page with appearing first in HTML - look at your code
- In a case study, there was a 25% earnings increase

One ad unit a page can make more money than two or three combined
- More is not always better
- People end up clicking on the 2ndand 3rd ad units, it may mak less EPC than if they clicked on the first ad unit
- Longer pages are the exception
- Do A/B testing

Be aware that your filter list will cost you revenue
- Blocking ads will result in lower paying ads appearing, it will not free up ad space for more higher paying ads to appear
- Use the filter to block ads that are competitors, are grossly mistargeted, advertising something inappropriate for audience
- Case study: publishers with 150+ sites on filter list increased earnngs by 35% when he reduced the list to 14

Use your allowed sites with caution
- Will no longer show ads on cached pages
- Adding google.com and yahoo.com will not work
- IP addresses only for all cache IPs
- Only use in specific cases

Show AdSense on pages hidden behind a login: if you have a members only or premium content section, you can allow the media partner bot to view the content to display targeted ads.
- "Site Authentication"
- Fairly new feature

Using Ad links on your sites
- Navigation
- Footer

Carefully selected referral ads
- Must be extremely targeted
- Don't simply select high $ CPA

Takeaways:
ALWAYS do A/B testing
Experiment with different placements, colors, sizes, styles
Consider impact of being too ad heavy
Look beyond traditional AdSense text ads and experiment with other formats

Next up is David Singh.

Brief history of agency side, how to make it better, and the future.

Brief history of agency side:
- Reach was ing and the age of arbitrage
- Search marketers drove contextual buys
- Search marketers applying same principles in a media buying environment

How to make it better
- No more silos!
- Communication/education
- Approach as media buying
- Agencies filter out poor sites and publishers filter out poor ads

The future?
- Behavioral and contextual merge
- More control on the agency side
- More control on the publisher side
- Users have a voice

David Ogilvy "I do not regard advertising as entertaiment or an art form but as a medium of information." It's all about relevant information. Better information is shared when agencies and networks come together and we have that information to give to consumers.

How did we get here? Back awhile ago, reach was king over quality and user experience. We didn't have affective audience measurement and it was all about maximizing impressions.
Users rebelled: banner blindness. We couldn't ignore the users but the users could ignore us. Contextual promised more.

What are the consequences? Rise of arbitrage. People would buy cheap clicks and send the users to a website that had nothing and force them to cick on an ad. It was traffic but bad traffic. It didn't help that agencies used search tactics in contextual.
Fallout: less targeted ads and less targeted placements.
The bottom line is that advertisers view contextual ads as less effective.

How can we make it better?
- No more silos. We're getting to a point where the user is going through many different applications from email to search to social media. They have different needs and wants. We need to understand that and what is really relevant for them.
- Communication: break down barriers, networks should take the lead, publishers and agencies should educate each other which improves the quality of placement
- Agencies need to take responsibility. We need to look at contextual as its own channel. A unique channel equals unique metrics. Some tactics don't work the same way as for other sites.
- Utilize control mechanisms - utilize site filters and ad filters.

The future: convergence with behavioral and contextual. Google acquired DubleClick, Yahoo has RightMedia, Microsoft has aQuantive. With this, we can give them more quality ads. The upside? Quality = paying a premium for that click.

Agencies - quality control: no blind buys, better targeting and filtering features
Publishers - quality control: choose ads, give users a voice
Algorithmic maturity: know good from the bad, better ad matching to sites

Next up is Cynthia from Adobe. She talks about how to monetize your PDF documents.

Adobe realized that there are valuable PDF documents out there. When we publish the content online, they're often doing it in PDF format.

A few months ago, Ads for Adobe PDF was launched. You can generate revenue for your PDF documents just as you can for your website. This was partnered with Yahoo. You can earh money and it's contextual ads. The ads are also dynamic. It also supports a viral mode for distributing content.

Top 5 inspiring ideas to take advantage of the service:
5. Digital versions of articles
4. Newsletters
3. Ebooks
2. Digests and compilations
1. Archives

She ends with a quote: "As for editorial content,that's just the stuff you separate the ads with" - Lord Thomson of Fleet

Brian Vu from Google is next: Earning money with AdSense

There's an ecosystem and Google is still learning about it. He doesn't support these books that want to advertise AdSense cash machines or AdSense domination tools.

The thing that's tricky is maintaining the balance. Some things include the switch from the background of ads to be nonclickable to be clickable. That reduced the percentage of accidental clicks. Also MFA sites are problematic.

There's a decision making hierarchy: There is no president of AdSense.

Transparency - publisher performance reports and ad review center for publishers, more blog updates

Expand the ecosystem: using DoubleClick, Feedburner, Video, Mobile, etc. - expand opportunities for publishers

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 5:46 PM Comments (3)

Do You Know the Breakdown of Your Competitors' Paid and Organic Traffic? Hitwise does.

This is a sponsored session from Hitwise, who will provide information about their competitive intelligence tools. On a personal note, I REALLY wish that Hitwise would open up to agencies. We have clients that have licenses and have seen the great information their product provides. Bill actually answered this question during the QA, and said that this is the way they like to work with the agencies (through clients that buy seats and the agencies using them) because they have found it is “easier to work with agencies that way.” Thanks Bill! It used to be that the answer to this question was simply that they didn’t work with agencies, so this has changed somewhat over the past years and I think is a much better stance.

Bill Tancer leads off and welcomes people, and introduces Heather, also from Hitwise (sorry did not catch last name or the other speaker’s last name). She will talk about Paid and Organic website search term reports. You can compare volume of traffic by website, and by search terms. You can also compare paid and organic performance by search engine (SE).

To start off: looking at the upstream of traffic from search engines. If you do nothing else, make sure you are looking at share of traffic that is coming from search engines for you and competitors. She shows an example of a chart showing Target, Nordstrom, Wal-Mart, Macys, JC Penney. A good way to get a snapshot over time of how traffic from SE’s flows. Bill adds that this is an excellent tool for benchmarking purposes. Also you can see seasonality trends.

Understanding the volume of paid and org traffic for a specific website and search terms. uses an example from JC Penney, and that 10% of the volume from search is coming in from the branded term “JC Penney.” They can break this further down into 53% paid versus 47% organic. Pretty interesting list for JCP shows the top 21 terms are all somehow brand-inclusive including “jcp,” “penneys,” and other misspelling including a lot around “pennys.”

Monitor the change in the share of paid and organic referrals over time. They see again with JCP that the paid search drops after the holidays. This is a great way to see how seasonality affects the traffic of a competitor. You can then export the website’s share of upstream traffic from SE’s & paid and organic ratios.

You can also further analyze the paid and organic traffic by breaking it down to Google, Yahoo!, and MSN. The paid and org ratio changes by SE, obviously. This allows you to look and see what opportunities are there. How do generic terms pan out? This can also be evaluated by digging deeper into the results.

View a snapshot to compare the share of paid traffic among competitors, and then present it on a chart that shows the market share of visits by the size of the bubble. This is titled “share of upstream traffic from search.” Next slide shows another chart which shows branded versus non-branded search volume. For JC Penney, brand was almost 85% and non-branded was less than 15% combined paid and organic (I am pretty sure this is accurate I had difficulty understanding the particular chart and how it broke the information down). To monitor these kinds of things over time, you can build a portfolio to better understand the effect of brand searches in an ongoing manner. She shows a couple quick snapshots from JCP vs Macys.

You can measure the effectiveness of your branded terms in driving overall traffic over time. For Macy’s and JCP, there is a huge holiday jump. Interesting that for Macy’s there is also a post-holiday jump, indicating different promotions and sales going on during that time frame. In my opinion, this alludes to the synergy between offline advertising driving branded search traffic.

You can also examine the share of new and retuning visitors. This also shows that Google in this example was 25% more likely to bring new referrals than returning traffic. You can monitor traffic from email. She shows how a specific ad campaign can drive traffic. During Oscars, JCP did lots of TV advertising around a new brand called “American Living.” Over the day after the Oscars, the new brand website drove the most traffic to JCP.

You can also identify the categories which are the strongest customer acquisition channels. Low on the list was news and media, as well as entertainment and portal front-pages. Social networking was also high on share of new visitors. Search engines were high for both new and returning visitors. She then shows a retention analysis chart which shows that Yahoo Mail campaign was a good way to bring people back to the site. They have also done this by looking specifically at an industry. They plotted for example the sites that were the beneficiaries from social media sites.

In summary: you can use paid and organic search reports to compare effectiveness campaigns across SE’s. If you do nothing else this is most important. You can also look at the impact of branded search terms, and analyze the share of upstream behavior with paid search ratios to see “of my competitors, who is most reliant on paid search? Lastly, which websites and categories are the most effective at driving new and repeat visitors.

Bill quickly walks on what he calls a “hidden gem” that she mentioned, called Search Term Portfolios. Once you let this build, you can really do amazing things with this, and he feels not many clients are taking advantage of it. The other cool app from this is to take all the products and services offered and put them in a separate portfolio, which allows you to measure this relationship. Measure the effectiveness against each other for best results. There is a cheat sheet available at front door that I will pick up on the way out and try to find an electronic version to post as a follow up or in the comments.

Next will be Paul from Scripps Networks, a client of Hitwise. Over the last few days, we have heard many people that advocated how important search is to business. One key caveat is that if search is the entire base of your strategy, competitors can take advantage of this and poach your users. He will cover a couple basic reports: market search trends and one dealing with website growth. He shows a chart which illustrates that paid search spending will annually grow 15% through 2012.

Three areas are ripe for search innovation: index, input from user, and output from user. How do users use language, keywords, and concepts in order to get from search engines to the websites? Using this information, you can help the user complete their mission once they actually get to the site. In my opinion this is an excellent methodology and very sound advice as to how to use this type of information.

Market Share Trend Report. Shows an example for competitive food sites. One of the key metrics they use to establish baseline is total traffic form search. For Food Network, it is about 27%. From there, they look at key categories including what the share of total visits within competitive set, which is 46% for Foodnetwork.com. The competitors are most often the other way, with the higher number coming from search and very low numbers in the total visits percentages. This indicates that the competitors are using search to try to make up for the difference in overall traffic.

With further analysis, they were using keyword phrases not directly specific to the food category, but instead more on the peripheral, in order to drive traffic not being targeted by Foodnetwork.com. He then shows another chart which discusses traffic from search to all the top sites, and explains the variety of metrics they can measure to get deeper understanding of the competitors.

He then shows a food and cooking category audience summary report, which compares Nielsen data to Hitwise data. Only of their sites, recipezaar, increased their share of visits from search in an astounding manner. Major takeaway: Yes, search is key for business!

Bill asks Paul, from his perspective what is the top reason to use Hitwise? Paul says for the competitive analysis as well as the ability to drill down into competitor tactics. Bill agrees that one of the reports he looks at most often is the click stream report, which shows both where traffic came from and where did they go, and this can offer tremendous insight into the searchers’ mindset.

This is live blogging coverage of SES New York 2208, so some typos or grammatical errors exist. Panelists or other attendees are encouraged to comment below to share any inaccuracies, and to help fill out the rest of the story.

posted chrisboggs in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 4:22 PM Comments (0)

Domaining & Address Bar-Driven Traffic

First up is Matt Bentley, Chief Strategy Officer, Sedo.com.
Matt talks about the economics of domain traffic. He talks about the old way versus buying traffic versus PPC and Adwords.

An example is wifi.com. If wifi.com has 15,000 visitors you could buy that traffic; talks about 10 percent conversion ratio, and PPC. Advertisers could cut out the middleman (wifi.com and Google) and go directly to SEDO or the domain owner for the traffic. Cutting out the middleman, advertisers could pay less for the traffic, and in the case it could be as cheap as $1500 for 15,000 visitors.

Another option, option 2, is to buy the domain name outright, perhaps for 350,000. You would see the ROI in 2 years and the domain is an asset. You would have the domain 'forever'.

If you sell the domain later, domain names are going up in value about 30 to 40 percent each year.

Watch for keyword generic domain names.
Watch out for domains that would have a spectrum of uses.

Dealtaker ultimately purchased shopping.com and was able take a big advantage of that generic domain.

Why would marketing want to buy domain names? Consider the traffic, the vertical, and the brand. Books.com is owned by Barnes & Noble and redirects to the Barnes & Noble site.


Next Up is Jon Lisbin, CEO and Founder, Point It!, Inc.
Jon talks about the dark side of domain names:
- click fraud
- cyber and typo squatters (currently there is a Dell lawsuit, Dell going after companies for typo squatting).
- domain tasting and domain kiting
- lack of transparency

In Yahoo! Search Marketing, you can now block up to 250 domains for having your ads show on them. Check to make sure that changes you make to your account actually are taking effect; sometimes you will make changes but they will not have taken effect when you log back in.

Jon mentions domain arbitrage and the companies buying clicks and sending them to parked domains.

There is a bright side, if you contact your Rep you could get a goodwill credit; Jon notes an example of getting a goodwill credit of $2500.

Yahoo! recently told its ad partners that they no longer accept arbritrage traffic as of February 2008.

In Google AdWords, a client noticed $25k in questionable clicks from domain parking pages. To get an AdWords to stop showing the advertiser's ads on domain parked pages, a Google engineer must block the domains. Jon notes an example of it taking several months in order for this to happen.

The bright sideis that you can now block all domain traffic on Google AdWords, apparently.

Jon offers the following tips:
Monitor referral traffic.
Use Google Analytics.
Request refunds.


Next Up is Janel Landis, Senior Director of Search Strategy and Development, SendTec
Janel talks about the growth of this business; the relevancy of traffic, typo domains, and opting out.

Janel recently took 3 generic keyword phrases and put those keywords in the address bar along with .com:
- homesecurity.com
- investment.com
- bookkeeping.com

There can be a high volume, show ads. Is it quality traffic? Sites offer no content, only option is to click ads.

Typo domains. Janel talked about turbtax.com and taxcutt.com typo domains. Typos hover on the cusp of trademark infringement. Capturing all typos is virtually impossible for trademark holders.

Opting out. Understand the traffic and track your referrers, the URl to the conversion. Don't guess at what is and what is not working. Opting out of Google; keep brand terms opted into domains. Opt out of non-branded domains.

Opting OUt of Yahoo! Search Marketing: analyze your data, find out what works and what doesn't work for you. If certain domains consistently deliver quality traffic, then don't opt out.




Wrapping up this session is Monte Cahn, Founder and CEO of Moniker.
Monte introduces himself; Moniker.com is an ICANN accredited registrar.
- ICANN regulates domain industry
- Empowered by the US Dept. of Commerce
- Following regulations, innovative entrepreneurs invested in domain names
- Many investors risked over $100,000 per year in an unknown future, domains
- Domain revenue sources were not known.

PPC is ultimately CPA. Domain sales will be $500 million
Domains contribute about 15 percent of Google and Yahoo!'s search revenue.

Revenue drives domain profiles.

The worldwide domain industry is healthy:
- 146 million domains are now registered
- 12 million new domains were registered Q3 2007
- By 2010, there will be 240 million domains registered
- 87 percent are live, 74 percent are renewed
- There are more than 240 ccTLDs
- ccTLD registrations total more than 54 million

The top ccTLDs are as follows:
.de
.cn
.uk
.nl
.eu
.ar
.it
.us
.br
.ch

Internet usage worldwide is growing, especially in Africa, Asia, Latin America. The secondary domain market is healthy. Porn.com sold for $9.5 million. Vodka.com sold for $3.0 million.

What makes a good domain name? Naturally generic, easy to remember (passes radio test), clear and concise, commercially oriented.

SEO parameters of domains:
Links, linkability, keyword research, check archive.org wayback machine or previous history of content on domain.
Site age helps.
There can be double meanings to domains, so watch out for them.

According to a recent study, Direct navigation Conversion converts twice as much as search engines.

Pharmaceutical companies have been buying the "diseases". An example would be asthma.com. Redirect traffic to your own brand.

Healthinsurance.com is a lead generation site.

Getting a domain name, do a trademark search. Have a valuation done. Use a domain escrow service, you can finance domains. Stealth buying services are available for domain acquisition.

Questions and Answers:
Strategy for tracking? use analytics to track referrers..parking companies have stats, as well.

What is the definition of Direct Navigation?
The act of typing a domain name into the web browser.

Bill Hartzer is the Search Engine Marketing Diretor at VizionInteractive.com and blogs at www.BillHartzer.com.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 4:22 PM Comments (0)

What's new with Google Analytics and Website Optimizer?

This session is packed, people are sitting on the floor.

Avinash Kaushik Google Analytics, Analytics Evangelist is holding this panel. The issue is that there is too much data. The tool gives you actionable insights into data. I'm crammed here, this guy just sat on top of me...

Data democracy: Give anyone you want access to your data. He shows how you can easily email reports. You can email specific types of reports to specific types of people. They don't want to kill people with data, just send them what they need.

GA helps you discover patterns from the data. He shows how easy it is to drill down into these reports. I am sure most of you are very well versed in how GA works.

Context is King/Queen:
People often miss context and GA helps you provide context. You can easily compare your data to past data or even look at goals. GA gives you your data in context. He is going through tons of data but getting it so easily.

He then says how you need to send green is good and red is bad to your manager, cause they don't know much.

People are constantly asking for definitions. There are little question-marks next to all data points in GA. But the green vs red helps avoid the questions.

He now shows off industry benchmarking data reports - some really cool reports. This is not 100% live yet, but should be live shortly.

He shows how you can drill down into a page and then combine those metrics with other metrics, to bring out life to the data. On the content by title, he shifted to a sub report of pageviews, and then time by page.

Now, what about non e-commerce? You can look at metrics such as visitor loyalty. Look at visitor recency, when was the last time I've seen you? Also metrics like length and depth of visits. The visitor loyalty reports help you understand some of those success metrics.

Bounce Rates:
- Bounce rates are a great metric
- Great filtering metric
- Tells you where to focus on
- If you filter those reports by source, then why is that source traffic sending you bad referrers?
- Also, are you sending the keywords your buying to the wrong landing page?

He is a big fan of internal site search
- Those searches on your site will tell you about user intent
- You can see bounce rate for internal search (how much does your internal search stink?)
- Compare conversions between site search and not site search

Web 2.0
- How do you track these ajax apps, flash, video, etc?
-- Generate fake pageviews
-- You dont have to do that anymore because
--- You can catch different "labels" as actions in GA
--- He shows a funnel graph of how many people started, then paused and then finished the video
--- He shows all these stats on video data
--- The then shows AJAX tracking and Flash/Flex

Moving Beyond Analytics
- Coming Up Next, by Tom

Avinash is an awesome speaker, awesome. Brett!

Tom Leung, Business Product Manager (Google Website Optimizer)

Yea, he discusses Website Optimizer...

Website optimizer closes the loop between adwords and analytics. This tool will scientifically compare changes you make to the page.

Ad Creatives: - 0-3 seconds with 3% of pixels and no commitment to it
Landing Pages: 0-20 seconds, 100% of pixels and demonstrated commitment
Closing Pages: 2-3 minutes, 100% of pixels and significant commitment

How Does Content Experimentation Work?
--> Visitor Comes ---> Visitors get different landing pages ---> You compare which page does best?

Benefits
- Free
- Easy
- Does not impact SEO
- Backed by Google
- Increases in conversions >25% not uncommon
- Discussion groups, tutorials, networks

Features:
- A/B Split Testing
- Multivariate Testing
- Follow Up Testing
- Works with ALL Traffic
- Statistical Analysis
- Platform Independent
- Quarterly Feature Updates

He shows some sample reports (green is good, red is bad)

Innovations Since Last SES:
- 5 Minute Set Up AB Tests
- Agency Access Permissions
- Cross Session Extended Cookies
- Advanced Algorithm Enhancements
- Google.com/WebsiteOptimizer, Testing Webniar Series, New Testing How to Articles
- 12 Website Optimizer Authorized Consulting Agencies

Learned:
- Content Experimentation is a technology enabled marketer-managed process
- Testing takes great alternate content, proportionate traffic, and discipline
- Many people mistakenly assume the more complex the test, the better
- It is totally possible to double your sales with testing
- There are lots of myths out there about GWO

He then gives some case studies, but I cant breath anymore. No air here.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 4:11 PM Comments (2)

Orion Panel: Universal Search

Search result multiplicity is not a new phenomenon, but recent advancements will guarantee the world of search and marketing will be changing forever. Hear from industry gurus about how search, marketing and information seeking is changing the industry that follows the search. Our ongoing series on universal search includes research data available only at SES.

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Moderators:
• Kevin Ryan, Vice President, Global Content Director, Search Engine Strategies and Search Engine Watch
• Mike Grehan, Global KDM Officer, Acronym Media
Speakers:
• John Battelle, Founder/Chairman/CEO, Federated Media
• James Lamberti, Senior Vice President, Search and Media, comScore, Inc
• Lyndsay Menzies, Managing Director, Big Mouth Media
• Jack Menzel, PM for Universal Search, Google

Kevin Ryan:

Welcome to the 3rd in a series of discussions about universal search. The Orion sessions are engineered to give you a very high level overview. I want everyone here to have a better understanding about what’s happening with search, what the real impact is. Can we get beyond the hype and the BS of what’s appearing in the press? James has data he will show you that hasn’t appeared anywhere else and it’s the first time anyone n the world is seeing this info.

(All panelists introduce themselves)

James:

We are a company that maintains a research panel of 2 million around the world. What we’ve done is essentially taken our search data stream and learned to recognize all the data. Then we took all the queries on Google and divided them into video, news, maps, weather, stocks, and flagged each as universal search, then looked at a bunch of data. This data is in its very early stages.

Starting at the top: 3 bars of data. Total search queries at Google, total clicks, and total paid clicks. In terms of value, this week we tracked 1.2 billion queries in the US, 220 million of which contained a universal qualifier.

What I was most shocked about was the volume of queries.

Going a step further, let’s look at the penetration.

In a given week, 87 million people searched Google, 58% saw some sort of universal result on the page, and 22% saw any universal link, and 15% saw multiple links – this is interesting because it represents results that had more than one of the universal results present. This suggests that Google is very targeted in what they are showing to users. It seems Google is being very siloed in what they are doing. This is not necessary a negative thing, we’[ve trained the consumer to integrate and react to blue box text links. Search is one of the building blocks of the internet showing phenomenal growth (vs. email, IM etc).

The next slide shows the percentage of people at Google that were presented with a video, news, image results, vs. the share of overall queries in those various buckets. What’s happening is that the intensity of searches per searchers is much higher in news and video than in other areas. So Google can create a great experience for the user. Finally the last 2 slides shows the average Google search session, which we baselined at 100. The bars represent how different result sets compare to that baseline. So when you have no universal search, you have 101, and as you go down the chart, getting more and more towards a pure universal experience (stock search etc), the interaction with the page for the consumer changes. They are not clicking as often. This is an indication of what’s to come and what will present a challenge in the industry since the start of the search phenomenon. The light blue bars show specifically paid click performance. With no universal qualifier, the # is 104.
This data has two major implications:
1. Organic search is becoming increasingly critical – search results pages are becoming a destination. technology and content will now supersede marketing. The inherent “view thru” situation will challenge measurements.
2. Paid search will become more competitive. Fewer paid click options on fewer pages, consumers will be in control - not the marketer, and conversion rates should increase.

A couple of final data points: for marketers this is a huge challenge. The growth rate of search shows more added growth in the US market in 2007, over 2006 - 52 queries per month per user, up to 74 per month per user.

As marketers, we need to take advantage of the content, make sure the inventory of images etc. are set up properly to be captured by the engines. If you come up with a better result than is on You Tube, people will click on it

[Some back and for the commenting on the presentation]

Kevin :

How many people in the audience are concerned with universal search or blended search results and are taking that into consideration when optimizing? Of those, how many feel like they’ve been attaining success?

Lindsay:

I think there are many opportunities. There is a branding component you need to add to search.

James:

Just because we measure search doesn’t mean that’s the only consumer value it possesses. In the past 2 years I spent 50-70% of my day consulting on the view-thru value of search. Consumer behavior is way too valuable.

Lindsay:

I think there is a massive shift to get from the mindset of ROI to branding.

John:

If you are a branding person who wants to make sure the ad is seen, when you get to the complexities of the universal search interface..when you show this data – if you are Google, and you see that you are indexing lower in paid clicks by 17% and just got hammered by wall street for 2 or 3 quarters, there has got to be some hesitation.

Jack (from Google):

Have you just seen Jame’s data! Because we are comparing a very large broad segment of the long tail we are going to see differences…I am surprised to see that you can make the claim that universal has a lower index.

James:

Isn’t the goal to create an experience, where you know the consumer so well because you have a history of what they’ve done? It’s more about personalization.

Jack:

Yes, to a certain extent. But at its core, the Google search engine results pages are still about getting users the info they want. To be realistic - we will be diverting traffic.

Mike:

How many people in the audience are doing SEO on the organic side? It’s all about writing the great compelling title tag!


John:

We have lived and had great benefit – and Google is the greatest benefactor of all – in a text driven world! Text is easily processed by machines. When you have images, and video, you are changing the game in a really big way! How the industry monetizes and how the consumer behaves. That’s why Google bought You Tube, and is focusing on You Tube.

Jack:

The reason You Tube shows up so often is because they contain a lot of the videos on the net. Changing the click model for putting images and video on the page – we don’t believe we are changing the model so much.
These images are satisfying and they get a lot of clicks.

Kevin:

Let’s talk about the You Tube content – most of it is crap! What’s the shelf life of this content!

John:

I was moderating a panel recently and on the panel was Damon Wayans. His new venture is Way Out TV, in partnership with You Tube and he said his entire deal terms right there on the panel! And one of the things he was guaranteed was 16 million impressions on the home page! Does that guarantee Google results? I’m curious because they give him guaranteed attention and anyone who has been in the industry for a long time knows about such deals. I worry about how that might get into the search stream.

Kevin:

Is it possible we will start to see his site get really popular?

John:

When did we have our big paid inclusion debate – 5, 6 years ago – and all of us that had been using it were really double-minded about it – on one hand, good channel, but a lot of people were getting outted for doing it. I think there is something similar with media and distribution and will be a lot of fights.

It’s interesting now when you put in stocks Google Finance comes in first – is there an algorithm for this?

Jack:

We do include links to the other finance firms.

John:

It used to be Yahoo was first but not anymore!

Jack:

We do use 3rd party objective---

John:

So publish in open source and let us see them!!

James:

As long as I am on a panel with Google I know I am safe!!

Kevin:

Obviously that will never get published. Algorithm is just a really cool word for “math problem”, and it’s not.


Jack:

We try to promote ourselves in a way that is fair and we will present the top results for a query and we try to be as relevant as possible and not biased to ourselves.

John:

You guys are becoming a media company and let’s just call it that. You are building it slowly but it’s not in your DNA to be in brand and display like Microsoft – but you have all these media properties now! That look an awful lot like the anti-portal – and yet, you have this visage of the brand that is indifferent to where you go next. I think there is going to become a conflict at some point. When you click on any of the search links directly on the clean Google homepage, like News, bam – it looks just like a destination site like Yahoo!

Kevin:

They are in the media business! They try to engage advertisers in a friendly way. It’s all coming full circle – but coming back to the universal component you are creating now instead of search driving to a destination, you now ARE the destination!

Jack:

Let me reiterate - we are trying to rank only the most relevant stuff – and if it happens to be on You Tube it will be on the list! There is nothing in the algorithms that are inherently biasing the results to Google.

Mike:

I think by virtue of the fact that you are introducing new things and technology, people cannot stay on the page, that’s a destination site to me!

Jack: But we are trying to get people to the destination as fast as possible.

John:

“Capturing a second click” is how I put it on my blog. It’s interesting that Google is trying to monetize on this. If you are sitting there watching the search stream – which I’d really love to do if you want to invite me in to Google some time – you can maybe see if there is a way to make a better experience. Then again if it all ends up working, you are going to capture that click.

Jack:

(Explains Knoll – like Wikipedia, trying to publish expert-driven, not community-driven info).

Kevin:

What defines an “expert”? I mean Wikipedia is being exploited commercially, it’s pathetic in my opinion – but what are qualifications for an expert and how will you manage that?

Jack:

I don’t really deal with Knoll – but I believe you know who’s writing the article, you have an indication, and I don’t believe we are establishing set criteria

Kevin:

So there are no qualifications to being an expert!!!

This outstanding coverage was provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 3:15 PM Comments (0)

Introduction to Search Engine Marketing

This session provided a clear and concise overview of the key concepts involved in Search Engine Marketing. Who are the major search engines and how can you best optimize them to gain "natural" or "organic" traffic without cost? Learn how to achieve top ranking or placement by utilizing search engine advertising opportunities.

Introduction by:
• Ron Jones, Search Engine Watch Expert and President/CEO, Symetri Internet Marketing
Speakers:
• Greg Jarboe, President and Co-Founder, SEO-PR
• Kevin Ryan, Vice President, Global Content Director, Search Engine Strategies and Search Engine Watch
Contributed by Avi Wilensky and Sheara Wilensky of Promediacorp.


Ron Jones:

As the name suggests intro to SEM, that’s what this is. By way of hands, how many of you are new to search? How many have been doing this for a year or two?

We have a lot of material to cover in a short period of time. I will introduce the 2 panelists who will stay sitting down and will go back and forth.

Kevin Ryan, VP of SES and SEW and Greg Jarboe, President and co-founder of SEO-PR.


Kevin:

Right around when search started to pop, I went from small agency to big agency to enormous giant agency. Search marketing was something the agencies did not want to understand and it was my job to explain it to them.

Search gained notoriety when Jerry Yang and David Filo were in an off campus trailer with no air conditioning trying to figure out a way to organize information. As the web started to grow they realized that Yahoo, with a human-powered directory wasn’t going to cut it. That’s when a couple of other guys from Stanford, Sergy Brin and Larry Page started Google. There was a publicized lawsuit from a company called Idea Lab who had discovered the way to insert advertisements – they were the first to figure out how to monetize search - and of course when Google implemented it the guys from Idea Lab sued Google. There was an out of court settlement and someone (Bill Gross) received a lot of Google stock. Those were the early days.

I can remember 6 or 7 years ago sitting in a room with the guys from GoTo and they had no idea who I was – and they were talking about how they were going out to pitch to my clients competitors how to up bid costs – and they were literally standing before me saying how they were going to drive up the bid costs!

There were a lot of costs involved in starting search advertising. GoTo was the Yellow Pages of the web. Most of the media folks didn’t want anything to do with it…and a few years later, lo and behold we are sitting here with 7,000 people talking about search marketing!

Greg:

Things were different a decade ago and they will be in 3 months from now. This is a rapidly changing field. Who are the major search engines? Today the answer to that question will depend on your definition of search. If someone conducts a search at You Tube, is that a search? How about eBay? So comScore put together 2 different lists. What the real answer depends on whether you use a CORE SEARCH or an EXPANDED SEARCH. Google is still #1 either way and Yahoo is still #2 either way.

The #3 in core search is Microsoft, and #3 in expanded search is You Tube!
That is a dramatic thing! If you look at some of the conference sessions, you will begin to understand how 70% weren’t held last year!

The first thing I want to say is – get ready for rapid change.


Kevin:

(shows a chart and explains the areas). Where is the most important place to be on the search engine results page? No surprise – right at the top – dead center.

Greg:

And that was true 10 months ago. And look at this other slide – depending on what pops up on the page – say a search for the term “iphone” - in the #4 position is a You Tube video of an iphone demo. Even if it is a #4 listing, that’s where the eye goes first! And then the second place the eye goes is the text link next to it, and then after that does the eye go up to spots 1 and 2. So it used to be you wanted to be in the #1 spot, but now you can be in the #4 spot and get more traffic!

The reason SEO will give you a better return on your investment is that about 3 times more people will click on the organic over paid. If you think about the volume and the cost, that’s an interesting disconnect in the industry. Part of it is that with PPC advertising – a lot of people did it well, and got into bidding wars – and then they ignored organic SEO!

Greg:

How do you give someone an overview of the basic concepts if they are changing so rapidly and radically? Half of what we knew last year is still relevant. Here are some key concepts we are going to share.

Kevin:

I’ve been talking about search all over the world and I can tell you that these key elements are essential no matter where in the world you are…China, Singapore, Amsterdam etc.

Greg:

Keyword research remains the right first place to start. If you don’t have the right first terms, if you haven’t identified them correctly, everything else goes wrong fast.

Where do I look for them? There is a process in brainstorming: let me tell you where you won’t find them but you should do this anyway – ask people down the hall from you for their input. You will get really bogus, dumb suggestions. That’s ok – the payoff is later where you can say you have the analysis and can filter out the bad ones, and go back to your colleagues and show them what is good and what is not. It’s an important part of the political process – it’s actually a social change process inside the organization and if you skip the process you will get penalties later.

Once you have collected all the suggestions you start analyzing them. You want to put them through a process and evaluate them. The first mistake most makes in keyword research is focusing on the most popular term. These terms are only one word long! And those who are optimized for over a decade are the ones ranking for those single keywords. The 2 word terms are also hard to get, and so you need to be looking at the 3 and 4 word terms. And even though they are less popular, they will convert at higher rates, because the searches are more sophisticated in their process and so they know what specifically they are looking for.

Kevin:

I once had a client in the electronics category and we tried to explain to the CEO what a search funnel looks like and at the end of the meeting it was so confusing the guy ended up leaving the meeting…bottom line, think in terms of starting in one place, narrow terms down, and figure out where you want to be.


Greg:

There are a number of tools out there – how many people use word tracker? Keyword discovery (Trellian)? How many use the Google Adwords tool?

Strengths and weaknesses of tools:

Put in the word “google” in the Google tool and it says no one searched! Same with the word “ipod”. They suppress certain data – it just happens.

Kevin:

Try them all, find the one you like

Greg:

I like the Microsoft adCenter tool because it tells you what people were searching for last month! New terms get coined all the time (i.e. Elliot Spitzer and Client 9 – who was looking for that a month ago!) and understand that sometimes the tool won’t tell you what’s happening today and tomorrow because terms change. Tools are rearview mirrors because they tell you what DID happen.

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Greg:

Design is a second key concept – if you design a site the spiders can’t crawl – god help you and prepare to pay a lot of money to fix it.

Kevin:

Keep things as simple as possible when optimizing a site. Otherwise you will have to hire a firm to un-screw-up the site and it will cost you.

Greg:

The search engines, as sophisticated as they are, are still pretty stupid when it comes to pictures, flash, images and so you might want to get a really old text browser because that’s about the level of intelligence a spider has. And what it will look like is very simple, just text. So be careful when you get too artsy because it will not translate well.

Kevin:

A lot of the designers and developers don’t get along and unfortunately you need to get them together to build a website. Its critical because we still go to sites today that say “welcome to my website” which is absolutely the worst thing to put in.

Greg:

Google is the world’s most powerful search engines and they have rules. If you break them, be prepared to be penalized. So read and re-read the guidelines. Google is getting better in telling you what the rules are. So if they say dynamic pages are hard to crawl – then guess what - they are probably a problem! This is not my opinion, this is what Google says, and if they say it, who am I to say otherwise.

Kevin:

Best practices used to be spamming the search engines and feeding them info that is not entirely accurate. It’s not such a problem in the US anymore, but in other countries there are spammers that find ways around Google guidelines.

Greg:

A rocket scientist once told me it’s getting much harder to fool Google. A rocket scientist! The clever labs have given up to work on the white hat sites…because Google will find you.

Kevin:

Google, in its outreach to the SEO community (and they don’t make money if you optimize a page, only if you buy an ad), a few years ago decided that helping people understand the rules is good and so they offer webmaster tools, give data. Otherwise why would you give info to Google? So at the end of the day they give great tools and feedback worth using! It’s probably good to know also what Google isn’t seeing on your website.

Greg:

If the human sees one thing and the bot sees something else – it could hurt you.

Kevin:

If you want to know more about design we recommend a session this afternoon in the fundamentals track that will cover more of the design issues. If you are charting out your course in what you need to learn in this conference to bring your game to the next level, this is a good session.

Greg:

Copywriting. You are writing for human beings.

Kevin:

Building content is actually hard. You need copywriters who are search savvy or bring in an editor who is search savvy and it is expensive and takes time and effort so making the case for that budget is as important a skill set.

Greg:

I have done it on a large and small scale and teaching the folks the basics is important.

Kevin:

Heather Lloyd Martin is also speaking at the show this week who explains how you need to pay attention to your content, and basically the most important content on your site is the title! One of the few things that was important in 1999 and still important in 2008! So the words in the title are the most important. Putting the same title tag on every page of you site shows the spiders duplicate content! So make sure each title tag is unique to each page.

Greg:

Pay attention to the details. I saw a client who once left “insert name here” in the title tag!

Kevin:

Next are links. Links themselves are gold. One of the things this has led to is link mania – which led to a lot of people doing the quick and easy stuff. Debra Mastaler says “the easy part of link building is knowing you need them, the hard part is influencing the right people to give them to you.”

You want to make sure that the words in and around your hyperlinks are optimized. It used to just be optimize the anchor text links but the search engines are clever and they understand there are games being played so they started looking at words around the anchor texts to make sure they weren’t seeing bait and switch.

Greg:

Back in the day there were link farms. Bear in mind that the text around the link is analyzed and if there is no text around it is not as valuable.


Kevin:

Make sure its diverse, not just 2 sites linking to each other in a weird link love fest.

Greg:

This is what Google said about links - don’t put more than 100 links on a page because at that point you begin to look like a link farm. Even Google says getting some links is ok, and if you apply for a link from DMOZ or Yahoo, that’s good, and there a couple other industry specific sites that are good but be careful.

So the first thing you can do if you think about getting a link from a directory: Google the directory to see if Google is indexing that directory, otherwise their link is worthless.

Kevin:

Stay away from link schemes. Create unique relevant content.

Greg:

Where do you get good links? One of the best way these days is from BLOGS!

Kevin: Heaven help us!

Greg: How many people have blogs! (many raise hands) wow! How many people will give me a link? (jokes)

Your blog is probably your best asset when it comes to link building and you are probably going to end up building more links to you because you have a blog and not a website.

Kevin: Don’t blog about what you had for breakfast and what color socks you are wearing! No one cares! Add useful stuff to the web!

Greg: Yahoo is the most pop, yahoo, Microsoft b/c all of them are using auction – based systems. So if efficiency – the lowest cost – is an issue – there is a reason to go to Microsoft. You wont get the same volume, but it’s cheaper.

This session is provided by Sheara Wilensky of Promedia Corp.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 12:46 PM Comments (0)

SES NY Conference Welcome and Opening Keynote: Nick Carr

Conference Welcome and Opening Keynote: Nick Carr

* Nick Carr, Author of The Big Switch, Rewiring the World, From Edison to Google

Nick is giving a speech. Here it is:

We're at a major turning point in the history of computing that has a whole set of ramifications. Computer systems and software algorithms are increasingly at the center of the way we do business, the way we find media, and the way we communicate. The changes are not fundamentally technological; rather, they're economic changes that are set off by the new technology. This is the "Big Switch" that he talks about.

If you look at your own behavior over the last 5 years or looking at behavior of college students, you can see that we've approached computers differently. If you wanted to do something new awhile ago, you'd buy software at the store. Increasingly, that's becoming foreign to us. Most of us, today, fire up our web browser, go to the Internet and download the software application. We bypass the process of buying at a store. This is web 2.0: delivering content online. Businesses think about computing and have kept themselves at a distance away from the web 2.0 phenomenon. They look at this as a thing people do in their homes, for geeks, etc. -- but not for businesses. They tried to keep it outside of the corporate world, but the PC proved useful and valuable for all of us. When people started using it often, businesses had to adapt to the technology and they had to think differently about their approach to computing. Corporate IT is now built around the PC.

But the change we're starting into today is more fundamental than the PC revolution. You have to go back further in time to understand the underpinnings of the change. Back years ago, someone in Troy (Henry Burden) built the water wheel, and this is power generation. Every company back then had to do this on its own. Power wasn't central to the business but it gave a competitive advantage.

If you went back to that site early in the 1900s, the wheel had been abandoned and left to collapse. What happened? Burden Ironworks didn't get out of business, but suddenly, companies didn't have to generate their own power anymore. Technological innovations changed and there were alternate current electric grids. People can now plug into their own network and get power cheaply and efficiently. They could abandon all of those personal power sources. When you think about that and put yourself into the shoes of the factory owners, it might have seemed as an incredibly leap of faith. This was just the assumption. Power was central to all of these businesses. Over time, as industrial companies grew and expanded, they also expanded the sophistication and complexity of the power distribution operations.

He shows a picture of power generation machinery that is very complex from the 1900. This is the equalivalent to enterprise systems today: incredibly complex, prone to failure, etc. But you had to have them. In 1910, only 40% of the power in the US was generated by small utilities. But 20 years later, 80% of the power was generated by utilities - and the magnitude of those utilities had lessened. As soon as there was an economical efficient means of sharing power, it became a revolution. This is the electrification of industry and society. The big news is that as soon as you moved to central supply, you can drive down the cost of energy dramatically. There was an explosion of innovation at the socket. Business people started to realize that cheap power would allow them to change the way they manufactured their own produts. Henry Ford cut down the cost of the assembly line, for example. The car became a democratic product that almost anybody bought rather than a luxury product for a relative few. It brought the industrial revolution into the home.

Ultimately, it also affected media, entertainment, news, and everything about the way we communicate and entertain ourselves. It led to the rise of mass media, mass broadcasting, etc. People were able to buy hi-fi sets and radios from living in suburban areas. The computer is the next great critical technology that is going through a similar change - going from a private supply (we have our own PCs, etc.) to a central utility supply model (the cloud computing model). We essentially plug into a shared grid to get the processing quality we need. Obviously, if you look at IT at a technological level, they are different things. But if you look at them at an economic level which is where people make decisions, they're similar. They're general purpose technologies - for many different purposes. With an electric grid or with a computing system, your options for innovation are unlimited because it's your imagination because it's all about how you want to apply that technology.

Information technology and electricity are even more rare than general purpose technolgies. They are the only 2 technologies that can be supplied over a network or over a grid. It can drive down the cost. We're beginning to see that today with hardware and software. In the history of computing, we see that it follows a similar pattern to the history of power generation. The pattern of computing was established in the very years of the last century. Just like with power generation, as new machines and technologies advanced, the applications of computers rose enormously and in the 50s and 60s, the mainframe came out. The mainframe had an advantage: it was incredibly efficient. It would operate at 80-90% of its capacity. It was centralized. But it was also impersonal use of computers. It could be used for big institutional jobs. The average worker could not access the power of the mainframe to use it for his individual job. It became the hub of corporate life.

Eventually, the mainframe wasn't the core. There was a server room and a data center which was a testimony to incredibly complexity and expense and also testifies to the labor requirements involved in managing a client-server PC based system. The current generation of computing (client-server generation) is the opposite of the mainframe era. It has made computing personal in one way. At the same time, it has made computing incredibly inefficient because every company has to build one of these rooms with similar machinery and software. This is the only way that we've known how to deploy computing across companies. It's incredibly inefficient and fragmented. Hewlett Packard saw that 80% of server's capacity goes to waste and 20% is applied. Storage capacity has a similar picture (35% is used, the rest is wasted). As for labor, it's also similiar - 70-80% keeps machines running. It isn't a business advantage. It's just the cost of doing business. If you look broadly at the economy, we're playing a big tax for the inefficient mode of computing. Back in the 60s, 5-10% of the budget went into IT. In 1980, the budget exploded to about 45%. The average company is investing almost in its computing equipment as in all its other equipment. This tells us that if there were a more efficient way of deploying systems (shared systems rather than private one), we can reduce the capital and use it for more beneficial purposes. Companies can invest in the main business instead of peripheral to the business.

Many companies are building data centers, such as Google (he shows us a picture of a Google data center in Oregon). There's a massive buildout of the computing grid for the distibution of computing just the way power companies built grids for the distribution of power. Utility computing is possible and inevitable. There are two laws behind this:

One law is Moore's Law (the power of computers for a given price is going to double every 18 months). This unerpins the explosion of the PC and computing power has gotten cheap enough that we can move from having physical machines to replicating those physical machines in software: virtualization - translation of hardware into software. You can now get cheap generic server and use virtualization to deploy that grid.

You also need to have an efficient means of distributing that power to the users. You need the computing grid. Andy Grove came up with his own law called Grove's law. The capacity of network communications doubles only every century. It explains a fundamental fact about computing: to tap into the huge efficient computing power dictated by Moore's law, you needed to run your applicatons locally. With broadband internet in the last few years, suddenly, the capacity of the network has begun to catch up with the power of the computer. Grove's law has been repealed and the network capacity catches up to computer power and you can suddenly deploy sophisticated services over this rich new grid.

Eric Schmidt predicted this back in 1993 when he was the CTO of Sun Microsystems. "When the netowrk becomes as fast as the processor, the computer hollows out and spreads across the network." The network is now becoming the computer and the datacenter in the way Schmidt predicted eloquently 15 years ago. We've seen this in the buildout of Web 2.0: the deployment of the centralized grid for student computing. We're seeing massive investments among IT providers to businesses - new startup firms supply individual business programs with enterprise solutions. People are moving into the cloud and the IT industry is acknowledging that a massive fundamental change is afoot. People move from a component business to a service based business where you operate utilities.

What does this mean? Just like the electrical socket brought a wave of innovation, we'll see similar effects come out of the utility model of computing. It dramatically reduces the cost and increases the availability of computing. We'll be able to tap into the resources anywhere with any product or type of service. It's a new wave of innovation that affects all areas of commerce, society, and culture.

Firstly, we'll be rethinking corporate IT. Corporations are going to move their datacenters into the cloud thanks to software like AppLogic. It's a fascinating applicaton and provides you with the Operating System (a WYSIWYG OS) to use grids of computers to your own purposes. It uses virtualization to create applications. Suddenly, phyisical machinery becomes software and moves out onto the utility grid. At the same time, companies and anyone who thinks about the way software applications are deployed need to think about the interfaces of computing. It's under the assumption now that applications and data want to be shared. Before, the assumption was to keep the applications separate and not shared. But that's a big problem: building on isolation is understandable from a development perspective but the business of computing is about sharing information.

He shows a Facebook stream about how you can control the data flow of information. For many people, this is the natural way we think about how computing should be delivered. It should be customizable, allow sharing, and put the user in control. This, however, is a radical departure from corporate systems of today. This is a radical new departure for IT that I think is going to flow in from the consumer space into corporations.

Finally and most importantly, every company in business is going to be challenged to figure out innovative new ways to harness the amount of cheap computing power and data storage capacity that are running over the internet. The WWW that we're used to is turning into the World Wide Computer: a shared informaion processing machine that all of us can tap into to use for our own purposes. Harnessing the power of this shared machine is going to be the big challenge of this century. One of the most obvious effects is that we're seeing a blurring of the line between the consumer software business and the media business. They're becoming one business with software taking over the characteristics of media and media taking over the characteristics of software. One example is Mint, a financial management software that looks at your financial habits and gives you more financial information. It's provided for free but you have to have an indirect means of supporting it with either ads or by taking a cut whenever a user shifts money into a new bank account (in Mint's case). The success of consumer software is no longer being measured by the number of units sold - it's being measured by the audience you're able to attract.

In turn, the media business is taking software characteristics. Media online comes from your prowess of software coding like algorithms. They're looking more and more like sets of software services. Behind the scenes, it's about using algorithms used to deploy advertisements for monetization strategies. It provides opportunities and challenges for media: tech companies can move into media and traditional media has challenges because they need to increase their software skills and adapt to the new model of doing business.

There's a continued consolidation of control particularly from a business perspective. This has been happened for a number of years. We have the perception that the web democratizes media and there's some truth to that, but because of the economic nature of the business, there's also incentive to consolidate everything, such as control. I think this trend is going to continue pushed by the economics to aggregating traffic to generating economies of scale. If you apply this to search engine advertising and PPC, you'd see a similar consolidation: using the internet as a medium or marketing channel. On the scary side, as soon as you begin to transfer businesses into software, we have the pheonemonon of the workerless company. You serve millions of customers with very few employees because they're running on cheap infrastructure with highly scalable software.

He illustrates that Skype had 200 employees with millions of users. YouTube was purchased with 60 employees. Craigslist had 20 employees. PlentyOfFish had 1 employee. This testifies to the ability to scale software with almost no labor component. This works because of increasing returns to scale, the radical automation to the application of cheap software, the global reach, and finally, user generated content. It's a central characteristic of all of these companies; the content is free from the users. An entrepreneur who can tap into this can get a whole lot of money very quickly and easily. If you think broadly about the economic effects, you can see the hollowing out of employment as processes are automated.

We'll see a greater personalization and polarization of data. It's a great thing but what happens when we receive highly customized information that is based on our preexisting patterns of behavior and prejudices? That's a bit disturbing - look at the political blogosphere of the USA. There's a lot of prejudice between different political parties and they don't link to each other. There's an assumption that this will cause greater social harmony. In some ways, it is, but this also happens and the fragmentation will occur.

The final point Carr speaks of is the implications for privacy and even for free will of people. A few years ago, AOL distributed its search logs for a 3 month period in 2006 and "carefully" anonymized all the data to help academics. But people's entire lives are laid out in the search terms they used (Thelma Arnold was tracked down by the NY Times). "My goodness, it's my whole personal life. I had no idea someone was looking over my shoulder." Everywhere we go on the 'net, there are companies looking over your shoulder and this phenomenon will only increase in the future. This presents an important ethical element that people need to think about when they go about their businesses. Computers are giving power to the individual but they're also controlling the individual. We're going to see a tug of war between the liberating side and the controlling side and it will be encapsulated in the way companies go about marketing.

As we think about this divide, here's a question: which side are you on?

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 18, 2008 9:58 AM Comments (0)

Orion Panel: Getting Vertical Search Right

Bill Tancer, General Manager, Global Research, Hitwise
Jason R. Finger, Co-Founder & Chief Executive, Seamless Web
Paul Forster, CEO, Indeed
Steven Krein, CEO, Organized Wisdom.com
Joshua Stylman, Managing Partner, Reprise Media


Kevin Ryan says information retrieval needs to get better. Also moderating is Rebecca Lieb.

They each give brief intros:
Jason Finger talks about his online food service. They link people with local restaurants and caterers.
Steven Krein is from a human powered health search service.
Bill Tancer gives the Hitwise line, love this guy.
Josh Stylman from Reprise Media.
Paul Forster from Indeed.com a Job Search site.

Bill Tancer starts up by giving us some data.
Where do we search:
- 66% Google,
- Yahoo 21%,
- MSN 7%
- Ask 4%
- Other 2%

Where is Search Leading Us?
- Lots are going from search engine to search engine
- Then Shopping, etc.

Where specifically?
- Google Image Search
- Then MySpace
- Wikipedia
- eBay
- YouTube
- Gmail
- Yahoo Mail
- Google
- Yahoo
- Windows Live Mail
- Google Maps
- Amazon
- Yahoo Answers
- Yahoo Image Search

He showed a nice visual map of how people use the web for travel.

Are Social Networks The New Vertical Search?

Anyway, now they are talking about if search engines should do vertical search. But honestly, they are talking in a way that is just to argue with each other. Waiting to just do some high end bullet points...

Kevin now asks to respond to "this is the problem we solved and this is the niche we filled."

- Indeed: He knew the problems job seekers had. There are thousands of web sites that have job listings. People are frustrated by this experience. So that is why they launched indeed.

- Organized Wisdom.com said when he and his wife were trying to conceive their first child. They had a hard time finding good info. So they wanted to hire someone to organize the most high quality links for him. So they have professionals who do the search for you and find the wisdom for you. He then talks more about the different programs they have. That is their niche, they hand craft results until they get better and better and better.

- Seamless Web worked at a law firm and about 2am he got very hungry. So they thought up ways to aggregate the information. They tried to solve the issue on both the user and retailer perspective. They built a way for an employer to enable their employees to bill their company for food through a web app. then they expanded it from there.

- These guys, the vertical "search engines," they keep knocking that Google and Yahoo show what SEOs provide and not something that users can fully trust. We so need a Google or Yahoo rep up on this panel.

- Indeed has job salaries, and they will predict salaries based on query. Indeed also shows you job trends.

- How do social networks come into play? Kevin asks... Health vertical says an editor can go in there and pull out information that is helpful.

- How do you make money?
-- Indeed does paid search ads (he said it another way)
-- Health... they offer "sponsored wisdom cards" is their model
- Seamless Web monetizes by giving some data to their customers and also content and consulting services to those customers

Alright, I am done with this coverage. I do have to add, that this is a unique session.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 4:37 PM Comments (0)

Auditing Paid Listings and Click Fraud Issues

Moderated by Jeff Rohrs from ExactTarget. He welcomes people back from lunch and introduces the panel. Having covered this panel in the past, we can hope that there will be a few fireworks between Shuman from Google and Tom Cuthbert from Click Forensics, as happened last year. We shall see…

First panelist will be Jon Myers, the Head of Search from MediaVest. He explains that everyone will be tight on time and the panel will be fast-paced. Not exactly great news for us live bloggers. Jon reminds us that it has actually been 3 years since the Lanes Gift and Collectables AdSense Click Fraud (CF) case. He claims that the refund was never really a great deal of cash for the plaintiffs.

He describes how people starting making “MFAs” (Made-for-AdSense) sites which are fake blogs which scrape bits and pieces form real blogs and the n host AdSense ads on them for income. In 2006, Eric Schmidt said “let it happen.” Shuman quickly corrected Eric on the Google blog and attempted to change the perceived message from his statement.

In 2007…botnet activity on the rise, click fraud is the new spam. A significant part of the click fraud traffic comes from botnets and MFAs. He shows a couple illustrative slides and talks about how it can be considered Google vs Yahoo in their efforts to combat fraud, or “them” collectively versus us (the internet marketers). At this point, we all agree that the problem exists and that advertisers should not have to pay for CF.

However, the search engines have for years told us that it is a negligible problem (paraphrased), when more recently they have begun to admit it still exists. This is where the media comes in…is it “scaremongering?” Shows a slide of an image of a Search Engine Journal, article on the topic with a somewhat sensational title.

The global picture: was CF up 15% in 2007? This is information from Tom from Click Forensics. He shows a “heart map” which shows China and the rest of eastern EU continent being the hot areas for this kind of fraudulent activity. he shows a couple more percentages numbers form Click Forensics. US Online spend in 2007 is about $21.1 Billion. spo at 40% of US Search spend being 8.44B, we will see 240K dollars in CF occurring just during this session.

He talks about the Google detectors tools available within the system, and then lists a bunch of companies that are involved in CF detection and prevention. To sum up…it is very important that you are recording the right data. Get the clickers actual IP address, the time and date, the keyword, and the referring website, and then report all this to the SE. You also need to record performance. What to watch for: second tier URLs. Repeat visits form IPs or domains. Where visitors are coming from? Click spikes. spend anomalies. Conversion drop off…etc maybe Jon will give us the rest of the list in the comments.

Is mobile search going to be the next CF area? maybe. Free mobile phones for clicks? Google supplying Yahoo Search…will this lead to less CF? (sorry I did not quite understand this point)

Next up is Reggie Davis who runs the Marketplace Quality team at Yahoo! He states that Jon raised some good points. In terms of the CF litigation, G paid 90M., and Yahoo only paid 5M… he will talk about value, Mitigation, Quality Improvement, and Business enhancement. They are clearly committed to driving value to advertisers. They spend a lot of time not just focused on CXF, but also how to drive better quality clicks which will in turn deliver better ROI for advertisers.

Network quality = ad quality + traffic Quality. Ad quality is more in the users’ realm, and traffic quality is on the side of the publishers. he will focus on the publisher side. He states that there was great improvement in 2007, listing key events that happened in each month from June to December. He focuses on the problem in Korea, and how Yahoo spoke with the government to help modify legislation that actually made it easier for Fraudsters. The government complied.

In 2008, the commitment to quality continues. They have automated systems in the front, as well as proactive review, and also reactive review. they feel that the amount of CF has been “grossly overstated” in the press. They focus on an inverted pyramid with low quality traffic on top and CF on the bottom (unwanted traffic in the middle).

They admit that content match is where the majority of the CF occurs. They have seen a significant spike as a percentage of the total discounted clicks since Q3 2007. He reminds that this is on a percentage basis and the overall traffic is much lower that the Search traffic.

One of the things seen as being problematic is when looking at web logs that appear to be clicks, but are not actually considered clicks by Yahoo. They are very concerned about delivering good filtering systems around the traffic coming in. They will launch a new Click Filter Report next month and he shows a mockup of the interface which looks pretty impressive.

Yahoo! has teams that are dedicated to helping advertisers with this problem. They urge advertisers to sign up for analytics tools which can help them manage this. They stand first in line to be certified against the forthcoming IAB guidelines. They also want to work with Click Forensics and partner with them. They signed a contract with them 6-8 weeks ago in order to leverage the data they are getting from advertisers in order to combat the problem. They welcome the opportunity to work with anybody that will help reach the common goal of driving value to advertisers. He stated at the onset that they took a different stance and will not be swinging a bat at Click Forensics. He lastly shows a couple cartoons that are available at the “Traffic Quality Center” which light heartedly poke fun at CF.

Next up is Tom Cuthbert from Click Forensics. His deck is titled “Under the Iceberg.” He thanks Reggie for not hitting them with a bat. At this time, he will not be throwing out any numbers, since we all now agree that this is a problem. He wants to make us aware of some of the hidden issues behind this. CF is only the tip of the iceberg. Other major issues: Botnet scams are exploding (a headline from today’s USA Today). Out of country clicks, Click farms, DNS pharming; low quality traffic from social networking sites; low quality traffic from parked domains and made for AdSense sites.

What does this mean? Like spam, CF continues to get worse. Traffic quality on the content networks is getting worse. Advertisers are hesitant to spend there since there is lack of controls. Diminishing trust is negatively affecting growth. Demand for higher quality traffic is leading to the increase in traffic acquisition cost. What is ahead? Traffic management tools are improving. Advertisers are demanding higher q traffic. “Black box approach” will not work. Smart publishers are blocking low quality traffic. They are taking steps to manage this on their own which is good. All people have the same goal in mind to improve ROI.

This means that everyone is going to be working together to team up to fight CF. CF will provide additional feedback to yahoo in a protected way (for those advertisers that are worried about Yahoo seeing conversion data etc). What we have learned: the problem is getting worse not better. Standards will help, but not stop fraudulent clicks. No one company can solve the problem alone. We need to empower advertisers with better tools and controls, and we need to create accountability for publishers, ad networks and search engines.

Next up is Shuman Ghosemajumder from Google. He will give an overview of G’s approach to fighting CF from an engineering perspective, and some other information. there are two main incentives to creating attempted CF. Attacking advertisers, or inflating affiliates. There are numerous methods used to do this, which range in complexity from something as simple as manually clicking on ads, to more sophisticated schemes using botnets and clickbots. He describes botnets as being like pyramid schemes.

The way they attack the problem of CF is by preventing the advertisers from having to pay for the clicks. The basic idea, he states, is “cast the net of invalid clicks wide enough that we have a high degree of confidence that we are catching the actual malicious clicks.” Of course, this produces a large number of false positives. This is good from the advertisers’ perspective in that they are getting some real clicks for free. It is also good for Google because it acts like a “sale on clicks.” This will drive higher ROI, and thus spur advertisers to actually spend more than before.

The proactive system used consists of real time filters and offline analysis to look at a longer time period of “let’s say” sixty days. The reactive is driven by actual investigations spurred by advertiser inquiries. The number of reactive invalid clicks is actually relatively rare and has remained at a lower level than those caught in the proactive phase.

“Reality at Google” from 2002 to present. Less than 10% but still a significant number of clicks are being filtered. Nearly all invalid clicks are detected proactively. reactively detected invalid clicks are a negligible proportion (<0.02%). The two main methods used for detection are simple rules and statistical anomaly detection. An example of the simple rule would be “N number of clicks from the same IP within a short period of time.” These are easy for fraudsters to avoid. The statistical anomaly detection is much harder to game. He lists a number of features that help mitigate the problems of CF, including “smart pricing” from 2002; auto tagging, site targeting; site exclusion; invalid click reports; placement reports; IP exclusion; AdSense click area change; all the way up to additional category exclusions in 2008.

Overall the best advice he can give an advertiser is to use tools that are needed to manage campaigns effectively. CF consulting firms have now evolved to offer advertisers better reasons to use them than to simply identify CF. he suggest that if you see anything suspicious, to report it to the Ad traffic Quality center and notify them. google.com/adtrafficquality (there are a couple video seminars from one of their engineers here which he recommends.)

Last up is Richard Zwicky from Equisite. He says an easy way to solve the overseas problem is to use geo-targeting to only get clicks from the US. He aggress that G and Yahoo are working hard to minimize exposure to CF. They are not the problem, however. You have to audit paid listings. You have to ask questions: did your campaigns execute properly? Radio has Arbitron, TV has Nielsen, businesses have accountants…what does Paid Search have?

You need to know what is your exposure and what you can do about it. What is PPC Assurance? A third party campaign verification system. he shows some cool charts form the system which identify strange spikes in traffic. (Unfortunately my laptop battery is about to die so I’ll egt as much more as possible). When you look at all your campaigns and a few spike somewhat, you cant be sure, but if one really spikes then you know you have been it.

What to audit? Set lots of campaign parameters. Every one you set reduces the chance of being hit by CF. They do create a higher likelihood of mistakes by Google, Yahoo and others, but that is OK. He congratulates the engines for actually taking responsibility and standing up and owning the problem.

This is live blogging coverage of SES New York 2208, so some typos or grammatical errors exist. Panelists or other attendees are encouraged to comment below to share any inaccuracies, and to help fill out the rest of the story.

posted chrisboggs in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 3:48 PM Comments (2)

Web Analytics: Measuring Success

How do you know if you've been successful with search engines and your website in general? You can check your "rank" at search engines for particular keywords, analyze log files to see the actual terms people used to reach your web site or make the ultimate jump and "close the loop" by measuring sales conversions and return-on-investment (ROI). This panel explores both classical and newer "cutting edge" techniques to measure success, what statistics you should really care about, ways to be more strategically focused, and how to drive increased revenue for your business.
Moderator:

* Yosi Heber, Founder & President, Oxford Hill Partners, LLC

Speakers:

* Avinash Kaushik, Author, Blogger, Analytics Evangelist, Google
* Jason Bishop, Sr. Consultant, SEM, Omniture, Inc.
* Akin Arikan, Senior Manager, Internet Marketing, Unica Corporation
* Lauren Vaccarello, Director of Publishing, FXCM

Yosi introduces the session and explains that clients have difficulty understanding what analytics mean and how to make it meaningful. For clients, it's important to look at actionable information that can maximize customer engagement and increase revenue.

He shows a framework of measuring success:
1. Potential traffic and new customer acquisition
2. Home page and branding
3. Products and merchandising: good pictures, etc.
4. Navigation and customer experience
5. Entertainment value and stickiness: what gets people to stay on the site
6. Customer care and trust: can they get help easily? Good privacy policy?
7. Call to action/revenue maximization (traffic conversion): free shipping, call now
8. Relationship building and customer retention: long term engagement
These are the things you can think about in terms of analytics. You need to do #1 before anything.
This framework adds to the overall user experience and its ability to drive revenue.

He then illustrates the framework in an example - some points are strong, some weak, and some are neutral. With the information gleaned, you can get ideas about how to improve your search experience and to get your ROI.

Avinash now talks about how he drank focus Vitamin Water and now he has to go to the bathroom.

Four actionable tips for awesome SEM/PPC success:
Search engine optimization entails 5 things: 1. keyword discovery, 2. keyword management, 3. keyword bidding and optimization, 4. website and landing pages, and 5. business outcomes

Everythng starts with the little box: keyword research. Integrate or die. Many people measure success with Google Analytics which is basic analytics. People are getting a lot better at measuring complex goals. At the end of the day, search engine marketing is not about driving clicks to your website. It is about making money. You need to take the data (impressions, visits, and clicks) because it helps you understand what happens beyond your website. Then look at the cost and what makes you money.

What else can you do?
1- Measure bounce rate. "I came, I puked, I left." If you see 50% bounce rate, it's not success. "This is suckiness," he says.
2- Go beyond ego bidding. We all have seen the F curve but with web analytics really help you measure success. One of his favorite reports is Keyword Positions. It gives you multidimensional analysis. Adwords > Keyword Positions - you get visualizations of how many visits you get from each position. "Isn't this sexy? It's very cool!" Figure out what your own success measurement is. You might want people to stay on your website for a very long time - what AdWords position? You are making a tradeoff between the number of visits versus success measurement. The interesting thing is that this report helps you figure out how to maximize the balance between ROI/profit/making money with the number of visits.
3- Experiment or go home! When people come to the website, it may not be designed very well. Design it for the users. The landing pages may be designed by hippos. The second thing is that when you click on the first result for "bathroom sinks," you'll get a Home Depot page about faucets. That doesn't answer the question. The bathroom sink is underneath the faucet! The second paid result is better and more targeted from faucet.com.
Do A/B testing. Check what pages work well. Take 6 minutes to test these things out. He shows a Skype page - one with a clean page, one with a man and a woman, and one with an "androgenous" man (with long hair whose back is faced toward us) and a woman. The "androgenous" woman and woman win - but you wouldn't know that unless you tested, right? Beat the hippos and improve scent with experimentation.

Lauren is up next. She talks about Zen and the Art of Analytics. Okay, she's seriously not talking about that because she's from New York and we don't do that stuff here. Her advice is practical.
1. Figure out who you are: Who are you? Are you a publishing site? Are you an e-commerce sites? Are you B2B? There's no one-size-fits-all conversion metric, but conversion should make you money.

2. Follow Gordon Gekko's 3 rules for Glengarry leads
- Rule #1: Always be converting. (ABC)
- This should be the goal of your everyday life.
- Rule #2: The most valuable commodity I know of is Information. Integrate with your CRM for a lead-gen site. For offline campaigns, it's hard to figure out the tracking.
- Rule #3 - AIDA - analytics is data into action. Make your analytics data actionable. Do something with it.

3. Generate sales lead lists
4. Do lead segmentation through time to purchase

She uses some examples with case studies - a fake e-commerce site. Get people's information because it gives you permission to market to them. Integrate your email solution with your analytics solution. 5-7 days offer them a coupon. 10 days or more do it more aggressively but don't spam them!

What about transactional leads? Send in your best closers and take away obstacles away from them that prevent them from closing.

Glengarry Leads are golden. They are for converters!

Next up is Akin Arikan who flew across the entire country for this 10 minute presentation. Unica is one of the top 4 web analytics providers left in this market (according to him and Forrester). He wrote a book called Multichannel Marketing which will be out in April.

Questions:
1. How do visitors find your site?
2. Once they're there, how do we convert them?
He talks about the metric on the trend chart and he shows that the conversion rate is going down. Only after segmentation can you see what's going on. In his situation, he realized that it helps to reduce the mass email campaign (since it coincided with the lower conversions), but paid conversion rate was actually up. Segmentation turns a mundane report into something that provides advice.
Conclusion: keep the webmaster, give a raise to the search guy, and fire the email marketer!!!!!
Even though conversion rates are down, conversions might be up becasue it's a matter of volume. The morale: a single metric doesn't suffice for taking action.
Ask about the cost per acquisition. One example is that someone paid $20k and only got one conversion. Is it worth it? Obviously not!
Beware of ROAS vs. ROI. ROAS = revenue / marketing investment. ROI = return / investment = (gross margin - marketing inestment) / marketing investment

How to improve the experience to reduce dropoffs? Use a cycle of testing and measurement. We suggest funnel reports which essentially draws people in. Don't just do the funnel report. Segment the report also so that you can take action. Paid vs. organic search is a way to segment; draw different conclusions. Segment by different landing pages. Do some A/B testing.
He shows a test vs. control and how the different shade of green for the "Go" button showed a 2.2% higher CTR!

Unica's recommendations:
1. If it's not segmented, it's not web analytics. It's probably information.
2. No single metric does it all.
3. Don't be fooled by ROAS. Use it to fool other people.
4. Test, test, test.

Last up is Jason Bishop who will talk about Search Marketing with web analytics.

Content:
- driving additional SEM traffic and how it relates to geotargeting
- improving navigation - search marketing and web analytics
- taking action - campaign hierarchy and how that relates to your text ads

Using geo-segmentd data to apply to your SEM budget. Look at geotargeted data - where are my visitors coming from? Set up structures within your account and group them together. STructure/restructure keyword campaigns based on top geographic locations. Apply larger budgets to the higher traffic areas - this gives more concise reporting and helps you target better. Group your lower traffic areas together as they may not be getting as much traffic.

Analyze your SEM conversion path:
We want impressions, clicks, and then a conversion. All other metrics - impressions, CTR, clicks, conversion rate, orders, revenue, ROAS, CPA - may also be included.
Revise: we want impressions, clicks, [????], and then conversion. In the [????] use a tool like Omniture and incorporate that with web analytics. Check product videws, cart, cart adds, cart removals, checkouts, average order value, cost per step metrics (cost per product view)

Then we have the funnel - how many product views, carts, checkouts, average order value, etc. in terms of SEM and then looking at the analytics afterwards.

Effective keyword strategy - do you understand your keyword campaign hierarchy? The basic structure you start with begin with ad groups and then keywords - you really want to drive home relevancy with your keywords or with anything. Group similar items together because it will help you drive home the endpoint (which generally means bringing people to your site).
Take action with relevant text ads: headline (eye grabbing), value proposition (what is the offer), and call to action (what do you want them to do?).

Takeaways -
1. Create geo-segmented campaigns can allow for improved targeting/budgeting (keyword grouping based on region)
2. Combining search marketing and web analytics data (what happened in the process?)
3. Having an effective campaign hierarchy to allow for specific text ads

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 3:29 PM Comments (1)

Network Neutrality is for On-Line Marketers too!

If Internet access providers, such as telephone and cable companies, begin preferring certain web sites or content types over others, it will be harder for the marketing community to determine whether observed on-line behavior is due to customer choice or provider choice. In addition, the threat of extra charges for "preferred" delivery is likely to saddle on-line marketers with extra charges or degraded service. Two Network Neutrality experts analyze the ins and outs of the debate, project the next moves by FCC and Congress, and discuss potential ways that the on-line marketing community can respond.

Introduction by:

* Rebecca Lieb, Vice President & Editor-In-Chief, The ClickZ Network
Speakers:
* Timothy Karr, Campaign Director, Free Press
* David S. Isenberg, Principal Prosultant, isen.com

There were few people who attended this session and I decided to so I'd learn something new.

Rebecca Lieb does not have a iPhone as she's protesting ATT who is against Net Neutrality.

David Isenberg – Network Neutrality is a good idea, gave a speech in 2006 that lead to blocking a bill allowing Network Neutrality.

Tim Karr – Free Press is a mobilizing group for many companies and organizations that see a financial interest in this issue.

What's in it for us? If the Telephone companies that can have influence over what we do on the internet than those of us who run ads can't do our jobs. The reason this is important to us is – if the guys who run the wires pollute our ability to use the internet the way we'd like then we'll not be able to do our jobs.

The lessons learned from pervious efforts and this one is that people care and businesses should care as well. We learned that ceding policy making to the lobbyists we're not helping anyone. A lot of the internet marketing groups (that are here today) require freedom to innovate.

The people who created Google, IM, etc, were not immediately noteworthy people yet they had the freedom to create. In order to continue to innovate we need to continue to have freedom to use the internet the way we need to.

However, at this time, we're paying more for high speed internet (and at lower speed) than other parts of the world (South Korea, France, etc). We're in the process of setting up a public and private collection of groups.

Four Principles of Net Neutrality
* Access – Every home and business in America must have easy access to a high speed world class communications infrastructure.
Note: in Sweden you can get a internet connection up to 100 faster than ours for about 16 bucks.
* Choice – Every consumer must enjoy real competition in online content to achieve higher speeds and quality.
* Openness
* Innovation.

We haven't accomplished most of this in the United States.

Rebecca Lieb – what happens to Google if phone companies get to decide how we use the internet?

www.savetheinternet.com – join the Save the Internet Coalition to save Net Neutrality.

Suppose Verizon Internet Services has a special deal when you were looking for books favored Barnes and Noble and made Amazon come up slightly slower. Such things could happen were phone companies would control the internet bandwidth.

As analysts of the data, the response will be polluted by the Verizon would be doing. Google is behind Net Neutrality along with Yahoo but Microsoft is on the fence.

A Natural Internet carries everything

1. Costs go where they belong
2. Web is kept clean and natural
3. Innovation

Corporations have a civil duty to give us what we pay for. When I type www.food.com take me to food.com and not somewhere else – this is called Direct Navigation.

702 Spectrum issue – Conflict of interest with Broadband access and Verizon owning both DSL and 702. The current FCC juggled the auction so the same players are in place.

MicroHoo on Net Neutrality – both are kind of Neutral on Neutrality

HR 5353 – put non discrimination

No one is going to hand us Net Neutrality – we'll have to fight for it.

Session provided by Marshall Sponder of The Analytics Guru, note this is provided in real time and may have typos.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 3:19 PM Comments (2)

How to Build Investment Interest in Your SEO/SEM

Presentation by Pat Hall of Hallmark Capital

Hallmark is an independant investment firm, meaning the discussion today is unbiased.

Going to cover in today's presentation:
1. how the SEOs/SEMs are evaluated?
2. 3 Factors investors look at specifically
3. how to make your company more attractive
4. challenges within the industry

Why do we care, even if you're not intending to sell?
Its an investment. When you know what your company is worth, you can then make intelligent decisions. Decisions may involve financing/company growth type decisions.

How are SEOs/SEMs evaluated?

1. Who is your client list? This is the single most important factor. It shows how you as a company are perceived in the market place. The type of client also plays a role in telling a great deal about a company, both in terms of size of clients and industries targeted. THis obviously means keeping existing clients happy and profitable. Stable client bases are also positively viewed.

2. Nature of revenues. Are they one time projects, or recurring revenues? The lower the risk of cash flows, the better.

3. Technology Strategy. Have you developed software to help your company excel or keep costs low. This can make a company more attractive than one that has none. Software development isn't crucial ... you may take a best of breed approach, and employ the best software available in the marketplace.

4. Scalability. How able is your firm to grow by 10x for example. THe more scalable a company is, the more its worth. This very difficult to achieve.

5. Management/Owner Leadership. Who's running the company? How broad and talented in the leadership base. Different vendors will view different structures differently. Eg. Ad agencies may like more distributed power and teamwork.

At the end of the day, its the interplay of these factors that ultimately determines value, and to some extent the value is still in the eye of the beholder.

Specifics - 3 Key Factors That Investors Look for:
If these 3 elements are all in place, then your company will likely be an attractive target.

1. Is Revenue Generation Sustainable? Can you continue to generate acceptable revenue levels over time. How great is the risk your firm cannot sustain its revenues over time, and from year to year.

2. Is There Visionary Leadership in your Firm? Do you know what you're doing, where the firm is going, and exactly how to get there? Odds are the purchasing company doesn't have this knowledge, and needs this type of insight and guidance. You must however be able to articulate it to the investors.

3. What is your Firms Competitive Positioning? There are alot of companies in the space. How do you differentiate your firm? How capable are you at explaining this to potential investors?


How Can You Make Your Company ore Attractive?
4 things you can do:

1. Reputation - how are you viewed in the industry, by competitors? by clients? This goes along way to show how well positioned you are in the market. Do whatever you can to build reputation with clients, competitors, and others.

2. Innovate - Stay ahead of the curve! Companies need to be viewed as long term players, and this requires constant adaptation. Search is ultra competitive.
So, what is your company doing to innovate and stay ahead of the masses of competitors. Ensure that its something tangible and that you can articulate, and that makes sense to potential outsiders.

3. Diversify Revenues and Business Risks - this doesn't necessarily mean you have to provide a whole slew of different services, but perhaps rather serve clients in different industries, in different geographic regions, and do not have too much revenue with a small group of clients. It is difficult though. Firms do need to ensure they do not overdiversify at the same time, and try to take on too much.

4. Identify Possible Acquirers or Investors, and Appeal To Their Needs - eg. align target markets.


Challenges to The Industry:
4 particular challenges:

1. Commoditization - company's viewed as such have low margins, and are not particularly attractive in such a competitive space. Fight commoditization by measurement, accountability, and relevancy tactics.
The jewelry industry is a great industry case in point. Many companies have found ways to differentiate themselves online.

2. Saturation - lots of SEOs and SEMs out there now. Clients get confused as a result, as they typically don't understand points of differentiation. SEOs/SEMs must find ways to differentiate themselves in their pitches.

3. Sustainable Technology Edge - to stay ahead of the masses of competitors, companies need an edge. Technology often permits this, and helps to ensure you remain at the forefront of your niche.

4. Communication with Ultimate Buyers - figure out ways to connect with utlimate buyers for forging closer ties with them ie. who's buying your client's products, and can you influence them?

Summary:
Its not just ad agencies and other marketing companies that are looking to buy. It may be client companies. The universe of potential purchasers is very large. Most companies want to be part of a growing industry. Consequently, with the influx of larger more organized firms, many existing companies will go bankrupt!!!

So, find ways to differentiate yourself.

General Multiple Principles:
a. multiple of 6-12x pretax earnings
b. multiple of 2x revenue
Though all the factors above will affect those multiples. THey are just a general guideline

4 Paths to Liquidity:
Companies need to be liquid (ie. ready for sale), and there are 4 paths:

1. selling to outside entities. Can sell outright, majority, or minority ownership. Lots of possibilities. Sometimes outright sale isn't ideal.

2. public offerings. There are more opportunities than just IPos such as
a. direct offering (where you create the buzz yourself ... done on a state by state basis). Can raise large capital in exchange for shares of the firm
b. reverse merger ... buy a public company shell. The company might not be doing business, but exists and is registered. Can buy it for $50k to $700k, and then you become a public firm. WHat is the opportunity here? If your private company is worth x ... then as a public company it will typically be worth 5x. What a great way to increase the value of your company. Its not for everyone, but given the right circumstances, it offers incredible returns.

3. Sell Company to Insiders. Meaning ESOPS (employee owned entity) or management buyout. 2 typical situations for this:
a. can't find enough buyers
b. real concern and care for employees

4. Recapitalization - have your cake and eat it too. Keep your company but gain liquidity. Firms will lend you money, and you do have to pay it back, but have the use of the money in the interim. Good from the sense you still maintain ownership, and can afford better people/partners in the short term. Valuations are typically very good with recapitalization. Not as good as with going public, but still good.

Jeff Quipp is President of Search Engine People Inc., a Toronto Canada based SEO, SEM, SMM.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 1:38 PM Comments (0)

Igniting Viral Campaigns

Igniting Viral Campaigns
In a world dominated by behemoths like bud.tv, MySpace, and YouTube, how do mid-sized and smaller companies break through to generate online destinations that create buzz, encourage word of mouth and establish relationships with potential buyers. This session unveils the secrets of Web 2.0 techniques and technologies that enable companies to standout and be talked about.

Moderator:

* Jeffrey Rohrs, VP, Agency & Search Marketing, ExactTarget

Speakers:

* Bill Hanekamp, CEO, The Well
* Ed Kim, Chief Executive Officer, Red Bricks Media
* Fionn Downhill, CEO & President, Elixir Systems
* Conn Fishburn, Director of Social Media Strategy, Yahoo! Inc.

This is a whole slew of new speakers at SES! Woohoo! Now let's see what they have for us!

First up is Bill Hanekamp from Microsite.com. He tells us Happy Thanksgiving! You too, sir! And he's also disappointed that he didn't wear green. Well, neither did I, so no worries. A lot of people at SES are totally covered in green and many people look pretty ridiculous. Someone told me that Matt Bailey is wearing a very funny green tie. I am totally going to take that tie away from you as schwag, Matt. Thank you.

Bill talks about behemoths and his past work experience working with a lot of big companies that spend a lot of money, particularly on social media. They spend a lot of money on creative on the idea side and the production side. When the internet came along, things changed: traditional media killed, the audience disappeared, and the effectiveness of what they were saying disappeared as well. People realized that money is not necessarily the end-all of awareness (e.g. Lonleygirl15 didn't have any money). The creative production wasn't important either (e.g. extreme Coke and mentos video.)

What's really important, then? Content. It produces a level playing field for small and mid-sized companies, is virtually free, and is available 24/7. One of the successful companies is Blendtec which spends its money on blending - people need to talk about you. There is content you provide and content is for your visitor. There are thousands of books written on this, but if you must read one, read "Made to Stick" by Chip and Dan Heath.
Four primary ingredient to make things go viral:
1. Entertaining: it doesn't have to be a fantastic story. Burger King chicken sandwich video, for example. The Elf Yourself experience was also funny. Phillips - man in a terry cloth robe talking about his carrot
2. Relevancy - put yourself in the audience's shoes.
3. Timely - they give up currency. It has to be new
4. Exclusive. Put it on your own site and don't copy other peoples. As an example, Chevy did something like Elf Yourself and didn't get many views.

You need to engage users with user generated content. It's very difficult to do. But you can post questions. When you do things exactly right, you have viral nirvana. The Dove campaign for real beauty is a wonderful example of this (personally, I love it). On the site with the video, everything else is trying to help getting the visitors engaged. People even blog about it.

Content boids down to the right ingredients which gets the audience engaged.

Wherte does the content go? YOuTube, Facebook, Flickr, Ning, Twitter, MySpace, and more. This stuff is free.
Don't put it on your corporate website though - you might have to go through legal and your IT department. The corporate side doesn't work well, so we prefer a microsite.

Summary:
- Build a microsite
- Develop content that's entertaining, relevant, timely, and exclusive.
- Get people to become engaged
- Tell the owrld via third party sites. People talk about you. Everyone links to you. Then you rank #1.

Next up is Edward Kim of Red Bricks Media. His presentation is about engaging the empowered user.
In 2005, we had a theory. YouTube had just been born. With all these news web 2.0 channels, we thought that viral marketing would come back. Our agency created a YouTube video in our office which took 10 minutes (dog attacks polar bear). Within a few months, there were hundreds of thousands of visits. That's the power of viral marketing.

Sometimes you can put things up and it won't go viral. But there's a guy named Eric Jackson who did this very well. He leveraged web 2.0 channels using Yahoo Groups. He garnered $57 million in shareholder value even though he only owned 47 shares. He called for the alignment of overlapping content (Flickr, delicious, Yahoo properties, etc.)

We're living in a generation that is growing weary and leery of advertising.

Top things that require more regulation: water pollution, air pollution, advertising....!

Why are people following Eric Jackson? Recommendations from consumers are highly trusted mechanisms for purchasing and conversions. Ads don't work as well.

The strategy is buzz marketing, participating in the community. Embracing people to be evangelists on your behalf. What are the key strategies? Identify the influencers in your community. There's where we usually start. Faciliate the conversation rather than sit idly by while communications occur without us as a brand.

How do you launch a buzz marketing campaign? Example: The Remarkable: FunTwo - almost 40 million views. This guy created a franchise out of his name and bedroom with no budget.
Another example is the outrageous - mentos commercial and The hilarious - Matt

How do we reach our audience? a boy named David Elsworth won a talent show in California. He produced his own network of videos. How do companies become empowered? They embraced the conversation. Search for VW (Volkswagen) - they incorporated his video and launched a commercial where people started to say that this is the best commercial ever.

What are the nuts and bolts of a viral campaign? THQ gaming company -
Identify the influencers: blogs (corporate blogs, blog ecosystem), Message boards (Google/Yahoo groups, forums, usenet), Wikipedia (corporate and subject matter wikis), Video advertsiging (YouTube; VW, Diet Coke, Smirnoff), Podcasting (Lonleygirl15), etc.
- Speak with gamers and see how they identify with their community - look at the popular sites among popular gamers.

In another example (B2B), we ask: where do the conversations happens among professionals?

Also, leverage the long tail community - hand out T-shirts and baseball caps to the community. It engages them in conversation. The result: thousands of leads to date.

Leveraging online video, bloggers and conversation tracking, social networking sites (Faceboook) - create characters and reach out to group leaders,

Three steps in a nutshell:
Identify your audience profile
Figure out the content that's buzzworthy
Identify how to distribute all of that content.

Jeff asks about the staffing around these campaigns (because there's a lot of sweat equity). Ed: we try to put a methodology around successful campaigns. We put a recipe around how to make a campaign viral. There are a number of different staffers who are in charge of these different components. Some people are in charge of blogger outreach and interact with the community daily. It becomes an informal conversation especially because people can sniff out the irrelevant people in the community.

Jeff also asks Bill a question about originality. As someone who has experienced traditional routes of marketing, can Bill speak to this skillset and the magic mix that he looks for to generate these ideas, or is it a matter of understanding the needs of your clients and their audience (and testing and retesting)? Bill says "yes." He explains that content is very important. In the old days, you had to spend a lot of money on the media portion, but now you can pour a lot more money into creative - content that people would like to pass along. The other takeaway is that to make things go viral, there's no way to know for sure. It's not predictable. A lot of people try to go viral and fail miserably. Elf Yourself was great but OfficeMax built 20 microsites and 19 of them weren't known.

Fionn Downhill talks about how she ignites viral campaigns. Her first slide is in Gaelic and I totally don't understand it.

Social media is the hot new buzword amongst online marketers: social media channels, online communities/conversations, and relationships. How do you use this and why would you do this?
Nielsen did a study and it showed that 78% of respondents trusted recommendations from other consumers. The second most credible source is newspapers.

Basic elements for success:
- Give away products or services - something valuable
- Provide for effortless transfer to others - make it easy to transfer
- Scales easily from small to very large
- Exploits common motivations and behaviors - e.g. targeting youth. If you expect them to spread something, it has to be cool. Think of your target market and create something that's appealing.
- Utilizes existing communication networks - social media sites
- Takes advantage of other resources - YouTube, for example
"You cannot control viral marketing but you can enable it" - and you need to enable it.

Budget:
Myth - web 2.0 and viral marketing costs a fortune
Fact - using web 2.0 for viral marketing takes time and a strategic planned approach for success
Budget - create specific marketing strategies that benefits the campaign, but keeps budget low. Don't have the resources for the next chicken or elf, don't worry!

What strategies can you use? Blogs, forums, RSS feeds (single most important thing to enable your campaign since syndication is so important), social bookmarking and tagging, press releases, photo directories/images, Facebook/MySpace, Videos (YouTube, Google Video), Article marketing (don't repurpose articles because they won't go viral!), E-Zine newsletters (but watch who you give your email address to - make your privacy policy very clear), Whitepapers, Wikipedia
"The key is free"

A word about blogging - if you're going to have a corporate blog, have a strategy for your blog - what's the theme? Are we going to update it? A lot of blogs fail.

Basic website techniques - forward to a friend, bookmark, news alerts, email, RSS feeds, syndicated content.

YouTube: how many of you get emails sent to you from YouTube? That is viral, people!
- Set up your own branded channel
- Create simple videos that are fun and quirky
- Tell your clients and your friends
- Optimize your channel
- Link from your website to your YouTube channel.
- Get a flip video camera. (I don't have one. WANT!)

How difficult is this? She shows us her 10-year-old daughter's YouTube channel. She also shows us a channel of her client.

How do you measure success?
- RSS and newsletter subscribers
- Social bookmarks
- Comments on your blog
- Links to your website by social media
- What blogs/forums are talking about you?
- Monitor referring links
- Monitoring, brand/search saturation, reach
- Mood of conversational marketing
- Track email usage
- More robust tools are available but Google and Yahoo alerts work for free

Some resources
- www.wilsonweb.com/wmt5/viral-principles.htm
- www.tamingthebeast.net/articles/viralmarketing.htm
- www.digitaltrainingacademy.com/viralmarketing
- www.youtube.com/signup

Jeff asks Fionn about experimentation. Is it worth it to launch a YouTube channel? Fionn says absolutely. It's hard enough to get budget for SEO from clients, but you have to do this now. You need this strategy in place. We build viral into organic campaigns and that's an easier sell. Testing will make it really effective.

Last up is Conn Fishburn whose presentation is titled "The New Now or How Social Changes Everything."
He says that the lessons are spot on, but you can't start with the notion that something is going to go viral. Think about what you are saying when you do that. Don't make your end goal to go viral. It's not a product selling strategy.

How does social media change everything? One of the things we talk about is the overall marketing strategy - why are they doing what they want to do?

The Rise of the People: 1.65 billion people were on the earth in 1900, but now there are over 6 billion. There's a lot of communication changes. 800,000,000+ people are on the web each day and are connecting in different ways like never before. In the next 6-12 months, we'll see a point of inflection - the new rules are going out the door and new behaviors take precedence. New media is finally giving results that were never seen before. This industry is being turned on its head in a significant way. It won't go back.

When you think about these 1 billion users online, think about the next generation. They won't think about the web in the same way that the first billion do because they won't use the internet in the same way. It's about mobile, pervasive, open, in browser applications, gaming. For these people, "new media" is not "new." It just is.

The Network Economy is a culture. Nicholas Negroponte says "if I werre to do the MIT MediaLab over again, I wouldn't make it so much about the technologies per se. I would make it more about culture, about the cultures behind any technology that adopts it, adapts it and makes it useful and interesting." We're doing old behaviors with new technology.

The Killer App of the Web has always been other people. It allows us to better communicate with others: email, IM, Twitter, texting, Napster, eBay, Craigslist, Friendster, etc etc!

If this is true and people are playing a predominant role, what's the future of marketing? What will it look like in 5 years? What does it mean today?
Let's look at media evolution -
Mass Media was one to many - too many links - browse
My media was many to one - search
We media is many to many - share
It's driven by broadband adoption, increase in the power of computers and chips, the decrease in cost, proliferation of new devices and technologies, emergence of a technology ecosystem

The idea is that the old model would push the brand through the network to people (one way dialogue). Now it's a two way dialogue - brand to network to people and vice versa.

Today marketing is a social dialogue: brands and companies are part of the cultural fabric.

Social media: demystifying -
1. Humans are social animals
2. All media wants to be social
3. Companies and brands have always been part of the fabric of society
4. New tools and technologies allow people to socialize with greater facilitiy and amplification of participation
5. Implicit and explicit data are providing new insight into human and market behavior
6. Openness, virality, transparencey and authenticity are the new hallmarks of great companies.

The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell - he did research around this very notion. While influentials are important, they actually have no greater influence in making something tip than a regular person. The anology that we've used (Duncan Watts) - if you throw a match into a forest, it might ignite or not. If you take a big ball of gas and do the same, it may or may not ignite. It actually depends on the condition of the forest. It's not necessarily because of great content or bloggers; it's about doing all these things in a very measured way to prime the conditions so that it can spark and create an ignition that does go viral. The best thing is that you can prime the network itself - seed these things - tap the influentials, be able to distribute your content freely, etc.

The Network is the Platform.

Take a holistic approach - huge reach, product innovation, etc. Think of it as your overall marketing (print advertising, search, etc.) They are all part of the consumer experience.

How do you get started?
First, listen to your audience.
Second, become part of the story. (e.g. Dove)
Third, always bring some wine. Don't come to a conversation without bringing something. Bring something of value to them.
Fourth, be good to your mother. Always make sure that you're good to the people. Understand who is paying you. Don't take advantage of them.
Fifth, think holistically.
Sixth, social media is here to stay.

Jeff asks Conn about the "go viral" phrase about people who want free and cheap stuff. Conn says that Yahoo is in the business of selling advertising space to companies and some of these companies are tremendously powerful. He doesn't look at social media in this way - he looks at using social as a backbone of all marketing efforts. Tap into and leverage these tools and participate in the community.

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 12:39 PM Comments (0)

Video Made the SMB Star

Michael Boland, Senior Analyst, The Kelsey Group is moderating this panel. He gives an intro on why video is important for local and important for small businesses. Video is to integrate the branding capabilities with the internet (direct response). There are many yellow page sites that are integrating video with business profiles. There is a lot to talk about here and each will present...

Frank Rocco, VP Marketing & Sales, EZ Show, Inc. is first up. He shows a demo of a commercial video on the web. It shows how its hard to make videos on the web, but his company makes it easy with a "Do it yourself" system. Honestly, this guy is doing a demo of his product, which you can watch at ezshowstudio.com. It looks like iMovie to me but what do I know. It allows you to add ads within a web page easily, like youtube but more customizable and branded for your site. They also give you tracking solutions for advertisers.

Boland asks him some questions more about the software.

Andrew Bennett, Director of Strategy, TurnHere is next up. They are different in that they only provide original content. They use a "first person documentary style." He showed a case study for yellowpages.com, citysearch.com and so on. The challenge is to create a highly scalable and economical merchant video profile product for IYPs to offer to advertisers. TurnHere's solution is to develop effective local business video templates and recruit and train filmmakers across the country. Status is TurnHere has produced thousands of local business videos across the US. He then shows a video demo of an ad for a local business. The video really did justice to this guy's business, as opposed to what text could do. He showed a Google Maps result that contains a video in one of the tabs for the business in Google Local. It shows up in Google web search. He ended early due to technical issues with the computer.

Peter Goldstein, President, Mixpo is next up. They are not about production, they are more of a video online marketing platform. So they don't compete with the others on the panel. Videos are all about conversions. While they do some production, it is more about analytics for them. 57% of consumers moved closer to a transaction after watching video. He then shows a video of how 'wow' it works on the site. He then shows a demo of a video ad spot on a news site and a video used on a site for a doctor to describe what they do. He then shows an example of Go Financial Solutions, how they use video for people on hold on the phone to go through some FAQs for those who wait while they get a loan. More demos... For every video they host, they create video enabled landing pages with text, so they are SEO friendly and they also push them out to the search engines. He then shows some stats in a real demo of the backend system. It is an impressive dashboard, shows you some really cool data from impressions, conversions, ad percent views, we see also a conversion based on what point of the video the user is at. He then shows a real time demo on how to make a video...

Steve Espinosa, Director of Product Development and Management, eLocal Listing, LLC. You got your video, but now get them plugged in to universal search.

He shows an example of universal search on Google, Yahoo, etc. He adds, the videos will be found in the local results, so do it now. You are 2.2x more likely to get a click from a SERP if you have a a sponsored result and local listing, but if you have a video plus local your 3.2x more likely.

Google TV Ads is in beta now. They are betaing it and love it. Big exposure for small business, because you pay for people who see your ad not the video spot. Google AdWords featuring video there (Bourne Ultimatum).

Creating your video:
- Video length differs for search industry, so pay attention to what people want in your industry.
- Calls not clicks, so display your phone number
- Ready for big leagues, make sure it is ready for TV
- Put a twist on your videos, make it viral not commercial

Optimizing Your Video:
- File type, do it in SWFs
- Do not use Active X Controls inside movies
- Video Sitemaps (use Google's video sitemaps)
- Host your own video files
- Drive traffic to your site and not theirs
- Branding Branding Branding
- Build a page for each video you produce

Reporting & Testing
- Google Website Optimizer is a good tool
- Google Analytics helps
- Video Too Long?
- Video Placement

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 12:17 PM Comments (0)

Video Made the SMB Star

Michael Boland, Senior Analyst, The Kelsey Group is moderating this panel. He gives an intro on why video is important for local and important for small businesses. Video is to integrate the branding capabilities with the internet (direct response). There are many yellow page sites that are integrating video with business profiles. There is a lot to talk about here and each will present...

Frank Rocco, VP Marketing & Sales, EZ Show, Inc. is first up. He shows a demo of a commercial video on the web. It shows how its hard to make videos on the web, but his company makes it easy with a "Do it yourself" system. Honestly, this guy is doing a demo of his product, which you can watch at ezshowstudio.com. It looks like iMovie to me but what do I know. It allows you to add ads within a web page easily, like youtube but more customizable and branded for your site. They also give you tracking solutions for advertisers.

Boland asks him some questions more about the software.

Andrew Bennett, Director of Strategy, TurnHere is next up. They are different in that they only provide original content. They use a "first person documentary style." He showed a case study for yellowpages.com, citysearch.com and so on. The challenge is to create a highly scalable and economical merchant video profile product for IYPs to offer to advertisers. TurnHere's solution is to develop effective local business video templates and recruit and train filmmakers across the country. Status is TurnHere has produced thousands of local business videos across the US. He then shows a video demo of an ad for a local business. The video really did justice to this guy's business, as opposed to what text could do. He showed a Google Maps result that contains a video in one of the tabs for the business in Google Local. It shows up in Google web search. He ended early due to technical issues with the computer.

Peter Goldstein, President, Mixpo is next up. They are not about production, they are more of a video online marketing platform. So they don't compete with the others on the panel. Videos are all about conversions. While they do some production, it is more about analytics for them. 57% of consumers moved closer to a transaction after watching video. He then shows a video of how 'wow' it works on the site. He then shows a demo of a video ad spot on a news site and a video used on a site for a doctor to describe what they do. He then shows an example of Go Financial Solutions, how they use video for people on hold on the phone to go through some FAQs for those who wait while they get a loan. More demos... For every video they host, they create video enabled landing pages with text, so they are SEO friendly and they also push them out to the search engines. He then shows some stats in a real demo of the backend system. It is an impressive dashboard, shows you some really cool data from impressions, conversions, ad percent views, we see also a conversion based on what point of the video the user is at. He then shows a real time demo on how to make a video...

Steve Espinosa, Director of Product Development and Management, eLocal Listing, LLC. You got your video, but now get them plugged in to universal search.

He shows an example of universal search on Google, Yahoo, etc. He adds, the videos will be found in the local results, so do it now. You are 2.2x more likely to get a click from a SERP if you have a a sponsored result and local listing, but if you have a video plus local your 3.2x more likely.

Google TV Ads is in beta now. They are betaing it and love it. Big exposure for small business, because you pay for people who see your ad not the video spot. Google AdWords featuring video there (Bourne Ultimatum).

Creating your video:
- Video length differs for search industry, so pay attention to what people want in your industry.
- Calls not clicks, so display your phone number
- Ready for big leagues, make sure it is ready for TV
- Put a twist on your videos, make it viral not commercial

Optimizing Your Video:
- File type, do it in SWFs
- Do not use Active X Controls inside movies
- Video Sitemaps (use Google's video sitemaps)
- Host your own video files
- Drive traffic to your site and not theirs
- Branding Branding Branding
- Build a page for each video you produce

Reporting & Testing
- Google Website Optimizer is a good tool
- Google Analytics helps
- Video Too Long?
- Video Placement

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 12:17 PM Comments (0)

Redefining The Customer

Jeffery Eisenberg

5 rules of marketing

1.Marketing has changed, it used to be delivering a lead, customer, that's changed.  In the past you could make promises they had nointention of delivering on.

However, trust is more likely to happen with other consumers.  People don't want to be overmarketed to.

2. Customers will control the conversation, not us.  People buy because they have confidence in the transaction.

Only 26% are actually satisfied with the transaction and FutureNow did a study of Top Retailers site (product page to Checkout).  There are a lot of stuff that Retailers don't do that they should (a bunch of stats were released).  In fact very few retailers didn't get back to them in 24 hours.

There is a gap between bring people to a site and doing right by the custor.  There's much more focus on bringing people to your site than pleasing them!

Think of brands that are successful, they are built on the experiences, the participation, not the transport to the site.

In other words, a click on your ad is just the beginning of a conversion process.

3.customers desire meaning experiences with your brand (via scent)

People can be broken down to 4 basic types based on Myers Briggs. Ads hace scent.

If people don't get what they want the click the back button more often.  Jeffrey asks if your site stinks (it should...smell, you know).

55% of all visitors leave your site after the first page because tey don't find what they want.

Most often the Retailers don't understand what the customer experience is.  If we take Giako, using the Gecco is good for the emotional type, works on TV, bit it falls apart online.

Need to rethink what the next logical step

Steps to optomizqtion
1. Does it work
2. Can I find it
3. Usability is good (motivation can overcome difficulty...if demand is high enough, like porno sites, usability van be bad and people will still buy).
4. Next step is intuitive.
5. Pursausiveness...do I have the info people need and can I provide
it in an appealing way t my customer.

You can't use technology to substitute for a lousy experience.

Take the 4 types of customers case study with a page that has 91% bounce rate.  In this case, having a search box (appealing to the competive type) next to kid titles, which interfeared.  There's a lot of low hanging fruit like that you can get by just looking at your site this way.

Questions
1. What Myers Brigs should you optmize for?
A. Depending on how people express their needs they may be very diffferent and need a different response.

2. Can you provide an example of how you used this process?
A. Eisenberg wanted to take that question offline.

3. How do you manage funnels?
A. Funnels are immportant but it is what a customer does to qualify themselves not what you do, so much.

4. Why do we need we need a sales process if the customer is in control?
A. The sales person is helping the customer and reduce friction. But if you reduce friction enough there will be less need for sales people and their role will become more about accountability.

5.how can we improve turn around time for advertisers?
A this is an uncomfortable position to be in.  It's not about traffic.

6. Question on how to deal with aming long forms shorter.
A. WebEX had a long form and we were able to restate the issue to one about leads.  Often, people have too many fields to fill out.

7. Is it better to focus on one of the 4 types or all of them?

A. First, the emotional types should be ealt with on the tip of the page whereas the logical and methodical who take in info slower on bottom.

Session provided by Marshall Sponder of The Analytics Guru in real time, please excuse any typos.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 10:53 AM Comments (0)

Organic Listings Forum

Organic Listings Forum: SES NY 2008Pose questions to our panel of experts about free "organic" listing issues, plus participate in this session that allows the audience to share tips, tools and techniques. There's no set agenda, so this is an ideal session to discuss any major recent changes with organic listings.
Moderator:

* Mike Grehan, Global KDM Officer, Acronym Media

Speakers:

* Jill Whalen, CEO, High Rankings
* David Naylor, SEO, Bronco
* Greg Boser, President, WebGuerrilla LLC

This session always is a lot of fun and today will be no different. As the first session of SES NY kicks off, I've already run into Lee Odden and Matt McGee in addition to Ross Weale and Jake Matthews in the audience. These guys rock.

Q: To what extent do you think Google uses patterns to give authority to their listings, and how relevant do you think PageRank is?
Greg: I don't think PR is relevant at all (the way it used to be in the old days) but I think Google tracks user visitors -- perhaps not all the time, though. PageRank is important in if you get crawled, how often you get crawled, etc. but it's not the magic bullet.
Dave: PageRank really shows how many pages you hold in the index. The more authority you've got, the more bonus features you're going to get from Google. From the user data side of it, I think Google uses some of that but for more blended areas. Ex: Steve Ballmer - if you search, you get news, images, and video. I think that goes down to user data; they pick out which video they want from what users are looking at. If you have a blog, you can get indexed and ranked within 2 hours which is fine because a blog is like a newsfeed. If you hit something new, it's like finding a cure for AIDS. Everyone links to you and it becomes a page in the index with its own relevancy. Analytics and user data and are so easy to fake.
Jill: PageRank is very important but not the little green bar that you see on the toolbar. What Google knows -- real PR is important -- it's an important part of their algorithm, but the toolbar isn't accurate. As far as user data, they are going to use as much information as they have.

Q: You mentioned blogs. Is there any metrics that prove that blog sites are outranking static sites, and can that continue if there's a blog for everyone and their mother's dogs?
Dave: I think the blogosphere is that the platform that it's published on. If there are 10 blogs that do the exact same thing, that's where the issue starts, but because they have a small lifespan, I don't think it is an issue. Blogs are a supplement to your website and a way to get extra spikes of traffic when you need it. Blogs are a great way to be controversial.
Jill: For blogs, in terms of getting rankings, you're naturally using keywords in your posts. That's where you get your long tail traffic. It's not a rankings tool -- it's more of a tool to establish yourself as an expert in your field (if you write good stuff). You need to write about interesting things. Don't just write about everything that others in the industry write about. Have your own voice and be different and that's how your blog will really survive.
Greg: Are blog sites outpacing static sites? I think that RSS enabled sites are outpacing non-RSS enabled sites. That's because RSS gives you a lot more crawl frequency because of the pinging factor that takes place. Blogging isn't about anchor text; it's a distribution chain to get links to your content and that will support your static sites. Use your blogs to support your static sites.
Dave: Bloggers use sites as a point of reference and that naturally gives you links. (Apparently, Dave wants me to link to his site. So there you have it, Dave.)
Mike: Social media sites also help a lot - I used some (Digg, delicious, StumbleUpon) and 2 hours later, my site ranked.

Q: My question is about buying paid links. How do they tell if it is in fact a paid link or if it's an organic link?
Greg: This is the biggest joke in all of history. They can tell because they join networks and infiltrate sites all over the network. Unless you're getting fresh new inventory, Google will know (they have spies). If you negotiate deals on your own, those links are not algorithmically discovered. We like to look for bloggers in our topic and we also like AdBrite because it has a good directory of sites and blogs that look for revenue. You don't see ads when you go there. If I pay you, AdBrite doesn't get the credit, so you'll get double the money.
Mike: If you have links from sites that all are PR5 and above, that's not natural.
Greg: If you are using a broker, check archive.org. We look at who they're selling links to and see if that advertiser was there a few months ago and we check keyword phrases that they're buying and see if those terms are ranking.
Dave: I'm with the search engines on link buying - people with big wallets win. We don't want to get involved in specific link buying activity. The risks are way too high. Google destroyed the link building market. You can buy a boatload of links, throw it at a website, and that website will rank but not for very long. You'll get caught. Matt Cutts said recently that PR sculpting is secondary. You should focus on building your internal PR. If your PR is 2, you're not going to get 20,000 pages indexed. You might want to try to get a higher PR first.
Jill: Search engines are smart. If the links on a page don't make sense in the context of a page which a lot of these don't, Google can tell that stuff. Buying the links and knowing which sites sell them leave footprints behind which can get you caught. If you're going to do it, do it under the radar and make it make sense in the context where it would be relevant and make sense.

Q from Jake Matthews: All other factors being equal, how are search engines treating TLDs? How are they ranking them? Are they giving any preference to them?
Greg: I would never use .info. I have never seen a quality site use them. .net, .org, and .com - we use those all. Those .us and .info are spammin and jammin domains. I wouldn't use them.
Dave: We have a very large problem in the UK. It's called Google. Geotargeting is a bit tricky. You can search for football and get Australian football news. But if I go to google.co.uk and search for football, I get a mix of NFL and UK football. When I go to Google.com, I get no soccer results. (Greg: As it should be!) When I check Google.ca, it's the best blend - there's NFL, Canadian football, and British football. That's the results I want to be. When I'm in the UK, everything is so centric to the UK.
Mike: I have a friend who is buying .cn domain names by the thousands. (Jill: You have a friend?) Google pulls them down all the time.
Greg: It's called churn and burn.
Dave: Just 301 those sites to your competitor and watch them go down...

Q: Greg, you talked about PR sculpting. Can you elaborate?
Greg: It's nothing you should worry about if you have a PR2 or a PR3. Toolbar PR will give you an idea about what Google thinks of your site is trustworthy. That might be where you want to do some sculpting. Use nofollow tag on these pages to point the content to the ones you want rankings.
[Dave then explains nofollow and how it's used - not passing trust to pages, etc.]
Greg: For the sculpting part, Matt said it's a tool you should use. Once I heard him endorse it, it took away my theory that it may not be a good thing. It's evolved according to Google as a tool.
Dave: Nofollow from a non-trust perspective means "I don't want you to go there."
Jill: Why not robots.txt?
Greg: Becasue robots.txt doesn't prevent the flow of PR. It will not be indexed but the PR juice will still flow. Privacy policies, TOS pages, and other pages don't need to be ranked. If you have 20,000 pages indexed and you see your top landing pages and only 100 of those are accessed, you may want to revisit how you're sculpting your pages.

Q: How important is the server of your website is on? If it has a terrible uptime, will it affect my ranking? What about a server with a .mx domain name (Mexico) that is hosted in the US?
Greg: A lot of overseas comapnies have their sites hosted in the US. As long as you have a TLD, you shouldn't need to have to worry.
Jill: There are a lot of good threads on High Rankings about the benefits of hosting within your country.
Dave: I work with quite a few international companies and they have localized office. One of the problems I've experienced is that in India, the ping rate is so bloody slow that we don't necessarily know if the site is live or not. Some of the infracture inside those countries is just not acceptable, so we do round robin DNS and host elsewhere or use gateway pages. We need the IP address and TLD ranking for the localized listings.
Mike: If you're in .de, do you have to host in Germany?
Greg: If you have a .de and don't have a German IP, they'll typically do the right thing. If you have a .com and a German IP, they will also do a similar thing. Search engines also look at the country of origin of sites that link to you. We have a Canandian client that has a Canadian IP and serves a US market and MSN is notoriously bad with its filtering of these kids of sites.
Dave: You want an uptime of a server to be 99.9999999%.
Jill: If search engines can't access your server, you won't get your site crawled as often.

Q: How important is it to incorporate a major keyword into your domain name?
Dave: I think it's a big mistake. Get a domain name that's brandable. Don't aim for a competitive keyword if you don't have the budge for it.
Jill: You don't want a keyword that is so generic. You want to have a company name.
Greg: If you're trying to brand and you're also trying to get off brand, the off-brand stuff does do brand names in their domain. I'm not crazy about multiple hyphens. It's more of a usability thing.
Jill: Don't go changing your existing sites just to add key phrases into your URL. If you're doing a redesign anyway, go for it, but 301 the old pages.
Greg: As a user, I want to know that I'm accessing a page that I'm specifically looking for. If it's a dynamic URL, it's not as intuitive.

Q: Regarding coding for accessibility and a sighted user, you may want to hide some content. Can you speak about any breakthroughs in Google recognizing good hidden content versus bad hidden content?
Dave: The human editors are getting quite well at detecting it. If you get into cloaking and hiding text in CSS, I've seen websites that have done it for the last 10 years. It's almost like harmless for this particular person. You have to ask: is he cloaking to deceive or is he cloaking to help? Some people might say "it's cloaking, goodbye!" and others might realize that it's useful.
Greg: There's a huge difference in what Google says publicly and what actually happens. There's no magically detecting cloaking Googlebot. Basically, it functions off the tattle-tale system. They have tools that analyze stuff in greater detail but it comes from a spam report usually from a competitor. What does get tossed often comes from human review -- but Google will never tell you that.
Jill: It's really whether you're doing it for good or you're doing it for evil. You shouldn't worry (if you're doing it for good).

Mike asks a question to the audience: what time is it?
10:30!

GOODBYE!

posted Tamar Weinberg in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 17, 2008 10:39 AM Comments (0)

SES New York 2008 Conference Coverage Schedule

The big SES New York show starts in just one week from today. Tamar and I plan on traveling back and forth each day to the Hilton to cover the conference, in fact, I hope to be there as early as 6:45am each day, traffic permitting, so I can blog other items here and at Search Engine Land.

We are covering about forty sessions, basically in live format. Yes, our style is to type as fast as we can, and click the post blog entry button as soon as the session is over. The raw form is likely to have typos, errors and major grammar issues but that is our live blogging style - there are other blogs that post a day or two later in a more legible format.

We have two new comers to our live blogging coverage schedule, they include Jeff Quipp of Search Engine People, Marshall Sponder of The Analytics Guru and Bill Hartzer. We also have our veterans covering the sessions, including our very own Tamar Weinberg, Chris Boggs of Brulant and Debra Mastaler of Alliance Link and of Link Spiel - of and I will be covering a bunch of sessions.

Here is our conference coverage schedule for SES NY 2008:

Day 1 - Monday, March 17, 2008
9:30am - 10:45am
Redefining the Customer covered by Marshall Sponder
Organic Listings Forum covered by Tamar Weinberg
11:15am-12:30pm
How to Build Investment Interest in Your SEO/SEM covered by Jeff Quipp
Analytics: Data Into Action covered by Marshall Sponder
Igniting Viral Campaignscovered by Tamar Weinberg
Video Made the SMB Star covered by Barry Schwartz
2:00pm-3:15pm
Web Analytics: Measuring Success covered by Tamar Weinberg
Auditing Paid Listings and Click Fraud Issues covered by Chris Boggs
Network Neutrality is for On-Line Marketers too! covered by Marshall Sponder
3:45pm-5:00pm Orion Panel: Getting Vertical Search Right covered by Barry Schwartz
5:00pm-5:30pm SES Awards 2008 covered by Chris Boggs

Day 2 - Tuesday, March 18, 2008
9:00am-10:00am
Conference Welcome and Opening Keynote: Nick Carr covered by Tamar Weinberg
11:00am-12:15pm
Converting Visitors Into Buyers covered by Marshall Sponder
Why Local Is Different covered by Chris Boggs
Domaining & Address Bar-Driven Traffic covered by Bill Hartzer
1:30pm-2:45pm
Orion Panel: Universal Search covered by Barry Schwartz
3:15pm-4:30pm
Do You Know the Breakdown of Your Competitors' Paid and Organic Traffic? Hitwise does covered by Chris Boggs
What's new with Google Analytics and Website Optimizer? covered by Barry Schwartz
Search Advertising Goes Mobile covered by Bill Hartzer
Optimizing Search Marketing Campaigns covered by Debra Mastaler
4:45pm-6:00pm
Earning Money From Contextual Ads covered by Tamar Weinberg

Day 3 - Wednesday, March 19, 2008
9:00am-9:45am
Morning Keynote: Search Has Changed Everything... And So Can You covered by Tamar Weinberg
10:15am-11:30am
Social Media Marketing - What is it and What is it Good For? covered by Tamar Weinberg
Widgets and Gadgets are taking over, but what are they? covered by Barry Schwartz
B2B Tactics covered by Bill Hartzer
1:00pm-2:15pm
Successful Tactics for Social Media Optimization (SMO) covered by Barry Schwartz
Big Brand Search Strategies: Build Connections and Fuel Online Promotions covered by Chris Boggs
Top Search Trends covered by Bill Hartzer
2:30pm-3:30pm
Afternoon Keynote: Jason Calacanis covered by Tamar Weinberg
4:00pm-5:15pm Dealing With Affiliates covered bt Chris Boggs
Social Media Research: Informing Search Strategies covered by Barry Schwartz
SEM Small Business Blitz covered by Tamar Weinberg
Managing PPC for Multiple Clients covered by Bill Hartzer
5:30pm-6:45pm
Social Search: The Next Step covered by Chris Boggs

Day 4 - Thursday, March 20, 2008
10:00am-11:00am
The Sempo Survey: 2007 State of the Market covered by Chris Boggs
Podcast & Audio Search Optimization covered by Tamar Weinberg
Usability & SEO: 2 Wins For The Price of 1 covered by Bill Hartzer
Staffing Up for Search covered by Jeff Quipp
11:15am-12:15pm
OldTimers on Search covered by Barry Schwartz
Beyond Linkbait: Getting Authoritative Online Mentions covered bt Tamar Weinberg
12:45pm-1:45pm
Video Search Optimization covered by Chris Boggs
My Search is Better Than Your Search covered by Barry Schwartz

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Strategies 2008 New York at March 10, 2008 9:51 AM Comments (1)

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