April 2004 Archives

Working on Blog Design

Please excuse our appearance while we upgrade the design.

We will be adding functionality to detect a screen resolution equal to or less then 800x600. If there is a match to this rule, then we will not be showing the right side box with the Google Ad and notifications. Currently about 10% of the sites traffic falls within the category, so we feel it is important.

Thank you.

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 30, 2004 1:52 PM Comments (0)

Click Fraud: Pros and Cons

A member over at IHelpYou Forums started a thread named fraudulent clicks today where he discusses how his clicks on his AdSense reports skyrocketed in a single day. Someone was fraudulently clicking on those banner ads and he decided to report it to Google.

Pay Per Click advertisers take click-fraud into account when factoring ROI (return on investment) of the overall campaign. Besides for the obvious cons involved with click fraud, the thread discusses some of the, not so obvious, pros.

"Fortunately on AdWords, it can actually increase your position if it happens on a small scale." Google AdWords looks at two factors when deciding how to position ads. (1) The bid placed by the advertiser and (2) the CTR (click through rate) of that particular ad. So if a bid is lower then an other ad but the CTR of that lower priced ad is much higher, the lower priced ad can come up before the higher priced ad with the lower CTR. So that benefits the advertiser who is paying less for the ad.

Could it have been that the advertiser was the 'fraudster'?

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posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 30, 2004 11:14 AM Comments (0)

Yahoo! Search Uses Shorter Yahoo! Directory Description

Have you noticed that since mid April, Yahoo! Search has been using the Yahoo! directories description, if available? Here is a sample of what it looks like in the SERPs for my corporate site.

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People at WebmasterWorld find this to be a tad unfair. As one member says, "The ordinary "new Yahoo" search description is much more complete and helpful, and substantially more likely to provide the searcher with a complete sense of the site's focus and content."

Tim Mayer from Yahoo! responds to that with "From my perspective as a searcher I agree with you. Some people's view is that it is query dependant. From a content providers perspective I have heard many times that they do not like the directory T&D. We had the same problem with the Looksmart directory listings in the Inktomi Index. People unsubscribed from Looksmart just to get rid of the T&D in Inktomi."

"Yahoo_Mike" an other Yahoo! representative responded 4 days ago with "We are reviewing this process to provide additional ways for sites to be listed rather than always using the directory information."

I agree, the Yahoo! directory description is not as good as the Yahoo! Search description. Let's see if they respond quickly to the SEMs feedback at WebmasterWorld.

posted rustybrick in Yahoo! Search Engine at April 30, 2004 8:50 AM Comments (0)

SE Roundtable's New Layout Unfriendly on Mozilla

Like all wise people, I use Mozilla Firefox as my default browser.

Cool plug-ins like "Live HTTP Headers," "Nuke Anything," "User Agent Switcher," and the "Web Developer Toolbar" make Firefox the best web browser for anyone doing SEO work.

Unfortunately, the new layout for this blog seems to be unfriendly to anything but IE.

posted DanThies in Blog Administration at April 29, 2004 10:56 PM Comments (0)

Stock Brokers Ride Google IPO News in AdWords

Doug from aderit.com brought this to my attention. He felt this was a funny ad to find next to the Google Files IPO Papers entry on this site.

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It reads "Buy & Sell SEO" from harrisdirect.com.

At first one would think that harrisdirect.com is buying the keyword "Google IPO" which would have made for a nice catchy news flash "Harris Direct tries to ride the coattails of the Google IPO frenzy by engineering IPOs of SEOs... In an advertising campaign launched today, Harris Direct announces that they are buying and selling SEOs..." (thanks Doug for the quote).

In reality this ad is just an inevitable result with an undesirable outcome.

AdWords must of matched the keywords "stock" and "ipo" with "seo". Harris Direct must of purchased the keywords stock and ipo and ran an add in the format of "Buy & Sell [keyword]". In this case the major keyword was SEO, hence "Buy & Sell SEO". SEO's stock price is at an affordable price. Should we listen and buy some SEO stock?

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 29, 2004 9:41 PM Comments (0)

Freshbot Date on Google SERPs

Ever notice the date next to a URL listed in the Google search engine results page? If not, I have attached a picture below of an example.

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You see the first result, the home page, has a date. The other page, an inner single page, does not have a date next to the URL. What is that date and why do some results have it and some results do not?

A thread over at WebmasterWorld named Date in Google search results discusses just that. The famous GoogleGuy chimes in with the answer to this question.

He discusses that, in the past, Google used to conduct a 'deep crawl' about once a month and 'freshbot' went to pages on a more frequent basis on pages that were updated on a more regular basis, like this blog's homepage. The date was much more noticeable back then, which really wasn't that long ago - remember the Google Dance days? Today, Google's 'freshbot' is much more advanced and is basically able to do deepcrawls on a more frequent basis.

Anyway, the date next to the URL is only shown if:

a) the page was seen in the minty fresh crawl, and b) the current date is within N days of the crawl date, where N is a small integer such as 2 or 3.

Check the thread out here.

posted rustybrick in Google Search Engine at April 29, 2004 7:28 PM Comments (0)

Google Files IPO Papers

If you don't know already, now you do. Google has finally filed with SEC. Here is an article on it.

Some forums are taking polls on if you will buy Google's stock or not. Join the discussion at your favorite forum:

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 29, 2004 3:13 PM Comments (0)

Getting your Non Profit Site Listed in the Yahoo! Directory for Free

Do you have a non-profit informational site, like this one, that you want to be listed in the Yahoo! Directory for free? If so, you can get listed for free. A thread at SEO Chat named free yahoo directory listing discusses just that.

posted rustybrick in Yahoo! Directory at April 29, 2004 12:22 PM Comments (0)

Bounce Rates Added to Urchin 5.6

I have discussed Web analytics and Urchin several times on this site. I am a huge fan of Urchin, and if you do a search on Urchin within this site, you can find all my posts on it. These entry is to discuss some of the new features added to the 5.6 versus, an upgrade from version 5.5.

You can view all the changes here, but I will highlight some of the cool enhancements that I noticed right off the bat.

First is a new view called "Bounce Rate" "report that shows how frequently visitors entered and immediately exited a site, by landing page." Take a look at this graph, click on the graph to see more detail.

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We all know this is a very important statistic, that most of us try to get to by creating our own spreadsheets and working out the numbers. Urchin now made it very easy to view these bounce rates with a click of a button. Definitions of fields on enlarged view are: "Bounces" is the number of times visitors exited from the page without visiting any other pages on the site. "Entrances" is the total number of entrances on the page. "Bounce Rate" is the percentage of entrances on the page that resulted in exits without viewing any other page on the site. It is calculated as Bounces divided by Entrances.

Some other enhancements to note include:

- Wizard that allows the manual entry of cost and impression data for any campaign data point. This includes email campaigns.
- A much needed 'View by" feature on the date range setting interface that allows the user to view data on an hourly, daily, or monthly basis
- And more.

Keep in mind, I do not work for Urchin, I am just a very satisfied customer that loves tools to help manage a sites marketing efforts. Also the bounce rates on this site tend to be high, but I will assume that most people come to the homepage and then jump off. My other sites, the bounce rates are much lower dependent (dependent on the page).

posted rustybrick in Tracking & Conversion Measurements at April 29, 2004 9:20 AM Comments (0)

Google News Found in Google Images

Thanks to a thread over at SEO Chat named Google Images merges with Google News, by forum member pk_synths, I am able to report this news to you.

Conduct an Google Image search on any news related single term. It can not be a two terms or three terms, it must be a single word.

An example of this is when you conduct a Google image search on apple. You will see the news information on Apple Computer in a gray box at the top, which they name "Images from Google News about apple".

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Other example try these image searches:

The list goes on, remember, it seems to only work with single terms.

posted rustybrick in Google Search Engine at April 29, 2004 8:45 AM Comments (0)

AdSense Competitors?

With AdSense such a huge money making machine for Google, I would think other search engines would start rolling out similar programs. Did a little poking around (well Rustybrick pointed me actually), and found out that Overture does have a context sensitive ad program, but it's only open to sites with 30 million page views or more. Seems strange to me to put those sorts of restrictions on it, as it's an automated system (at least if it's done like AdSense).

posted digitalpoint in Google AdSense at April 28, 2004 5:48 PM Comments (0)

Amazon's Search Engine, A9 is Alexa's # 1 Movers and Shakers

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Yup that is right, A9, is today's Alexa's number one mover and shaker. A9's traffic increased 2,100% from an Alexa 13,194 ranking of to a proud ranking of 490.


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How are Movers & Shakers Calculated?

The movers and shakers list is based on changes in average reach (numbers of users). For each site on the net, we compute the average weekly reach and compare it with the average reach during previous weeks. The more significant the change, the higher the site will be on the list. The percent change shown on the Movers & Shakers list is based on the change in reach. It is important to note that the traffic rankings shown on the Movers & Shakers page are weekly traffic rankings; they are not the same as the three-month average traffic rankings shown in the other Alexa services and are not the same as the reach numbers used to generate the list.

posted rustybrick in Other Search Engines at April 28, 2004 5:14 PM Comments (0)

Google IPO Will Hurt Google's Culture

Please don't be upset by an other Google IPO post, this is really my second time posting on the IPO topic, and even in this post I will be talking more about Google the people then Google the company.

An article at Wired named Quirky Google Culture Endangered? discusses the thought process Google's founders, Page and Brin, are going through.

On one hand, the founders can greatly benefit financially by taking the company public. They "are believed to own roughly one-third of Google, which is expected to be worth between $15 billion and $25 billion after its stock market debut." Not only will they benefit personally, the company and the employees will be better off financially.

However, on the other hand, Google might not be able to maintain the "freewheeling approach" after the "hard-nosed investors" are keeping their eyes on the company. They might have to say goodbye to "colorful office toys, roller-hockey games, free meals prepared by the Grateful Dead's former chef and a business mandate requiring workers to devote one day per week to their own pet projects."

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 28, 2004 3:20 PM Comments (0)

GMail Lacks Safari Support But for How Long?

I am a die hard Apple user, that means I use all Apple gear. This includes Apple PowerBook G4, Cinema Display, Airport, iSight, iPod, iTunes, iChat and the list goes on.

The most used Apple software I use is Apple's browser named Safari. Safari, is currently not supported by Google's email, GMail. A thread over at WebmasterWorld discusses a rumor at MacWorld's MacCentral that says:

Brin noted that he was "embarrassed" that Gmail's beta doesn't support Safari, but said that they will add Safari support before its public release. "We're going to make it work with Safari and that's one of the high priority things," Brin told MacCentral. "I’ve heard that you can sort of get it to work if you're desperate. I want to fix that, and I want to make it work really well."

posted rustybrick in Other Google Topics at April 28, 2004 10:07 AM Comments (0)

Looking for an Investment? Buy Lycos

A thread over at SEO Chat named, Anybody wanna buy a classic search engine? discusses the advertised sale of Lycos for $200 million.

Instead of buying real estate or investing in the Google IPO, why not buy your own search engine?

posted rustybrick in Other Search Engines at April 28, 2004 9:43 AM Comments (0)

Experience with Yahoo!/Overture's Site Match

At JimWorld, there is a discussion being lead by Barry Lloyd, a.k.a. MakeMeTop, on the topic of Site Match, pay-for-inclusion. The thread is named Experience with Yahoo Site Match?

Barry Lloyd, an experienced SEM, discussed his experience with Site Match. He said on average you need to wait 4 business days for editorial review. He points out that the reviewers do not always review the pages submitted, they often look at other pages that were not submitted including a contact information page. So the reviewer is looking for the "integrity of the site as a whole."

After the pages are accepted, you will normally see them included within 12 hours. MSN/HotBot results vary from Yahoo! Search's results, in fact Barry has noticed a 5 - 7 day period of time where positions in Yahoo! are much lower then in MSN/HotBot. After the 5 - 7 day period the results improve "dramatically."

Barry and an other JimGuide make a point to watch out for "spam-like" pages. If the reviewer finds anything that resembles such pages, you will likely not get listed.

Good luck with your PFI campaigns and Overture's Site Match.

posted rustybrick in Overture Site Match at April 28, 2004 9:14 AM Comments (0)

April 20 - 27 Weekly Recap

This past week was all about the anticipated Google IPO, which we are still waiting to happen. But I tried not to discuss the financial aspects of Google and the industry, not that I am not following it. A major event occurring with Google is something known as the Sandbox Effect where new sites seem to be put on a hold before ranking well for any keyword combination. There was a bit of speculation on why this is happening, some of which is in the topic of purchasing expired domain names but that theory does not seem to be consistent with the reports at the forums. Other speculation was that these sites were seeded with Ghost PageRank, but I do not believe that to be true either. Theories are springing up daily, one thing that seems to be fairly consistent is that this hold period lasts for about 90 days.

It has been an exciting week for Google's AdWords department. Besides for the new Pay Per Click's Trademark Policies, where Google began allowing US competitors to buy trademarked names but those names can not be used in the ad text. Maybe that is why the Google AdSense and AdWords server had some technical difficulties, speak up who ever you were that hacked in. There was some good news this week on PPC, spending on PPC is up compared to other online or offline advertising media. That is what influenced my post named, Organic and PPC Are Friends not Enemies.

Continuing with Google, yea I know it was a big week for them, Google gave props to the earth. Soon after, Google gave back to the SEOs with a PageRank and backlink update. Some people reported that Yahoo! search was back to using Google's index, but that was rejected. We tried to figure out how to manipulate the description for ones site in the SERP but instead found Google was doing a heck of a job indexing Flash. Finally with Google, new look for Israel Google, "I am Feeling Lucky" Has no Referrer, and we tested hyphens and underscores in url and title.

On a more general search engine optimization we discussed the pros and cons of multiple sites with same database and linking between multiple sites on the same IP address.

Forum specific topics included Dan's post on his dissatisfaction with some forum threads. But I was able to find some of the more hot threads on the Internet. And we even talked about how AskJeeves is growing so quickly. If you think that is wild, to top it off we even had a thread on a Famous Subservient Chicken.

Looking forward to next week!

posted rustybrick in Weekly Email Updates at April 27, 2004 11:44 PM Comments (0)

Underscores versus Hyphens a Google Test

A member at SEO Chat posted his test results for measuring the underscores versus hyphens both in the URL and in the title of the page. Does Google consider them to be the same? Well based on his early tests, the answer is NO.

The SEO Chat thread is is found at google underscore test results. You can view the test page here.

Notice the filename structure is (I italicized the text within the URL Google can read) chalcakloopy-cganveeeing_doreaivnically_phreanatoindment-bafdiadiiafy.html

Notice the title of the page is worded as (I italicized the text within the title tag that Google can read) teawufloppafomper-flevalitettaeilanvincely_capamafiandhfollicruxzst_audfivatrdatalnmafluzs-ahgonnvohunnytion

Now lets check Google results for those keyword phrases that match the URL structure:
chalcakloopy is a match!
cganveeeing is not a match.
doreaivnically is not a match.
phreanatoindment is not a match.
bafdiadiiafy is a match!

Now lets check Google results for those keyword phrases that match the title structure:
teawufloppafomper is a match!
flevalitettaeilanvincely is not a match.
capamafiandhfollicruxzst is not a match.
audfivatrdatalnmafluzs is not a match.
ahgonnvohunnytion is a match!

Nice test.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 27, 2004 5:28 PM Comments (1)

Google & META Descriptions

How do I get my description in the Google SERPs looking pretty? That is the topic of discussion at one thread named Google Descriptions Revisited over at HighRankings forum.

Google will most likely not use your META description within its SERPs. For example, lets take my corporate site, http://www.rustybrick.com/. Conducting a search on rustybrick, brings back the description "Web design, web development, web programming, e-commerce, .Net technologies and more Web technologies in New York (NY) by RustyBrick." View the source of the rustybrick homepage and you will see the description is being pulled from the content within the <noscript> tag.

Next example is when I conducted a search on rustybrick web design, trying to trigger a new description. What I received back was "RustyBrick Quick Service Overview: Web services; web design, web development, web programming, e-commerce, search engine optimization, .NET technologies web." That content is being pulled from the bottom of the rustybrick homepage.

So the META description is not often used by Google in the SERPs.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 27, 2004 11:25 AM Comments (0)

Google Results Found in Yahoo! Search

In a thread over at SEO Chat named Am I dreaming or yahoo shows google serps again? a forum member discusses his encounter with Google results in the Yahoo! Search search engine results page. Just like old times?

The conclusion was that it was exactly like "old times" thanks to some old cookies. What the people had to do, to stop this from occurring, was to delete their cookies, specifically the "google cookie" from Yahoo.

That got time to come back to 2004 for Yahoo! Search.

posted rustybrick in Yahoo! Search Engine at April 27, 2004 8:46 AM Comments (0)

Purchasing Expired Domain Names for the PageRank

A topic over at HighRankings named, Expired Domains is where a member asked "I came across a website selling expired domains... what are your thoughts on buying them for the traffic they may still generate?"

The first two or so replies suggest that if the domain name is related to your prior business then it is a worthwhile purchase. The reason being is that you should be able to bring in direct traffic from the old competitors URL and any backlinks will be on topic, so the backlink provider might keep those links and not delete them.

But each expired domain name should be carefully reviewed from a historical perspective. In addition, when purchasing new domain names, it is important to learn if the domain name was ever used in the past. If it was, it might have been penalized by the search engines, you would not want to pass that penalty to your new site, would you?

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 26, 2004 8:07 PM Comments (4)

Google Now Indexing Flash SWFs

A thread over at Cre8asite proved to me that Google is doing a much better job with Flash files then it has in the past. In the past, Google was able to recognize a flash file and the links within them. Now it seems Google can actually read the flash binary code. The thread is named Google - Flash now indexed by Google. Where a member asked me to search for Kingdom Ceramics enter, in position number five you will see the site (keep in mind the position might change, so look for the URL in the SERP), [FLASH] descriptor and the url www.artareas.com/ArtAreas/home.nsf/Profiles/ Kingdom+Ceramics/$file/intro.swf. If you go to that URL, you will see it takes you directly to the Flash SWF. Google read the following contents from that SQF file.

0% LOADING 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 55% 60% 65% 70% ... Enter Virtual Tour Enter Exhibition (Exit Virtual Tour) "Welcome to the Kingdom Ceramics Virtual Tour!" "How may I help you today?" "Please show me the... ...

Other forum discussion at WebmasterWorld.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 26, 2004 1:38 PM Comments (0)

Competitors Bidding on My Trademark

Do Google Search on rustybrick, my trademark. If it does not come up, refresh a few times and you will see the following ad by a competitor I never heard of. They call themselves "superior" to RustyBrick, I doubt that. But to stay on topic...

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Is there a way to contact Google about this? Will it matter? Google now allows for competitors to bid on trademarked names, however they will not allow one to place the trademarked name in the ad copy. Fair? It is extremely hard for Google to police this, so they try to make their policies as easy going as possible unless otherwise forced to change them.

Three past posts on this subject can be found at:

posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 26, 2004 12:41 PM Comments (0)

Linking Between Sites on the Same IP Address

In a thread named Links from the same IP? at JimWorld a member asked the following question.

We are hearing rumors that Google will no longer count links-in from sites with the same IP address, i.e. links between virtual sites on the same server.

This conversation goes deep into virtual servers that share the same IP address. It also gets into ethics and concepts such as hilltop.

Nice thread, so check it out.

posted rustybrick in Link Building at April 26, 2004 12:16 PM Comments (0)

Bookmarklets on Safari - My Time Saver

Over at Peabody's Cre8tive Flow Ammon posted a topic on bookmarklets. I have been dying to mess with them but it wasn't until his post, which followed Dan Thies email to me about how he loves these bookmarklets as well. So after some searching in Google (actually, the first result in Google for "bookmarklets on safari"), I found my answer at a fellow blog.

I was unable to get the default bookmarklets working on Apple's Safari browser. But this blog entry named Fixing the MT bookmarklet for Safari now allows me to post my first blog entry here using the MT Bookmarklet with Safari.

posted rustybrick in Miscellaneous at April 26, 2004 11:00 AM Comments (0)

Jeeves Growing So Fast So Quickly

I remember when Ask Jeeves was just born, so small, so cute and was so eager to start its life. Now, a few years later, our Ask Jeeves has grown so big.

BusinessWeek published an article named Piper Jaffray Ups Ask Jeeves to Outperform, where I quote "as his analysis of search traffic suggests that Ask Jeeves, with 19% sequential growth from the fourth quarter, grew faster than Yahoo's 13%."

Over at WebmasterWorld a senior member makes sure to point out,

Comparing rates of growth doesn't tell the whole story. AJ is coming from the basement in terms of market share, while Yahoo has a much larger audience. 19% of a small number is smaller growth (expressed as actual numbers) than 13% of a significantly larger number.

posted rustybrick in Ask.com at April 26, 2004 8:56 AM Comments (0)

The sandbox effect

http://forums.seochat.com/t9919/s.html,

This post at that other forum, a long time ago stuck in my head, considering the source was “G man” himself.
“I heard that at PubCon, DaveN suggested that Google should only update the visible PR and link: data once a quarter or so...
thatotherforum/forum3/22566.htm“

Now I hadn’t given it much thought until recently when a few clients of mine went out and purchased thousands of back links, and within 1-2 months were at a PR 8 for a new domain 2-3 months old.

Continue reading "The sandbox effect"

posted seo guy in Google Optimization at April 25, 2004 7:43 PM Comments (10)

Google Showing link from embedded flash file

I am showing a backlink from http://www.subblue.com/images/logo.swf in the new datacenter and when I view that page in mozilla there is in fact a link to my site in it, where It came from I have no idea lol. Anyways I wanted to get some comments on it as it is a very strange occurence

Posted at http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?p=67326#post67326

Perhaps Google has gotten smarter with its reading of flash objects, no?

posted seo guy in Google Optimization at April 25, 2004 7:20 PM Comments (0)

Pay Per Click's Trademark Policies

Posting this for my own notes but it can't hurt to share. Policies at major search engines on allowing bidding for trademarked keywords range widely, with at least one having no stated policy. Here's a rundown:

Google Inc.
Policy: Had limited the bidding on trademarked keywords upon request of trademark holder; within next several weeks, will no longer do so, but won't allow the use of trademarked terms within the ad itself. Also bans critical ads.
Comment: Says it is changing its policy to better serve users with relevant ads; observers say the move will generate more revenue for the search engine

Yahoo Inc.
Policy: Allows bidding, but screens for editorial relevance
Comment: Will investigate complaints from trademark holders, but allows bidding if ad makes clear what the company does

MSN
Policy: Sells retail brands (e.g. Sears) only to the retailer; sells manufacturer brands, like Sony, to the manufacturer or to retailers. Policy differs for brand names that are also generic terms; for instance, would sell "amazon" to Amazon.com but also to an online travel site selling trips to the Amazon region.
Comment: Yahoo supplies some of MSN's paid listings, but MSN also sells some listings directly.

FindWhat.com
Policy: Allows bidding, but screens for editorial relevance
Comment: "Pepsi is allowed to bid on Coke, just as Pepsi uses Coke's trademark in its TV commercials," says Phillip Thune, chief operating officer and chief financial officer.

Lycos Inc.
Policy: Reviews ads for relevance and generally doesn't allow bidding on a competitor's trademark
Comment: Competitors typically "don't have content relevant to that trademark," says Adam Soroca, who runs the ad-bidding system for searches on lycos.com, hotbot.com and other sites

Kanoodle Inc.
Policy: Doesn't allow advertisers to bid on trademarked terms they don't own
Comment: "An advertiser bidding on listings through Kanoodle must either sell, or provide substantive information on, products linked to that listing on their Web sites," says Lance Podell, president of Kanoodle.

My Source: WSJ.com, WSJ Source: the companies

posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 25, 2004 4:57 PM Comments (0)

Forums under attack...

All of the SEO forums struggle with "signal to noise" ratio. They all try to solve it in different ways. Some are frighteningly hostile to newbies. Others create an extensive set of "super double secret" chat areas available by invitation only, or by paying a fee for the right to annoy the anointed. Lately, I've detected a rise in three forms of noise, across several forums.

1. The "gibberish tennis match," where 2-3 posters go back and forth with 1-line posts that amount to a private conversation, ignoring anyone who attempts to contribute.
2. The same old tired circular arguments and bad ideas, recycled again and again just for kicks. Even an innocent question can be redirected to the same old tired debates.
3. Outright hostility. Many forums are dealing with an unprecedented level of trolling and personal attacks. Personally, I think hostile foreign powers must be to blame for the tension, but I could be wrong.

Even moderated discussions like LED Digest and I-Search have been allowed to turn personal. There must not be anything new happening on SEO Island, because the natives have turned to fighting over "links vs. content" again, ignoring or misrepresenting each others' positions as it suits.

Can't we all just get along and discuss this stuff rationally? I think I can remember when this was still fun. For all of you who are stirring things up with personal attacks, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong on the facts, because what you're doing is wrong.

posted DanThies in SEO Forum News at April 25, 2004 12:36 PM Comments (0)

BlockedPR.com - PageRank Informational Resource

There is a relatively new resource on the Web named Blocked PR List, which gathers information on which popular sites do not funnel PageRank to external sites.

Back in January, digitalpoint posted a entry here named Google Blocking Domains From Passing Page Rank?. This entry discusses a PR10 site's, phpbb.com, inability to pass its PR10 to the pages it links to. Too bad for those that purchased text ads on the site for the sole purpose of increasing PageRank on an external page.

Blocked PR List is a simple Web page that lists out these types of sites. The owner told me:

We fully expect that Google will penalize both the BlockedPR.com and Textlinkbrokers.com site. We get emails fairly often from people telling us how we're going to get banned for putting up such information. I think its interesting how alot of people assume that we did not think of that possibility. I would however like to assure everyone that we take every possible precaution to insure the safety of both our link clients and link partners. We have learned from mistakes of the past and mistakes of others and beleive that we have the safest linking network out there.

Currently the site is up and running. The list of sites is still short, I would guess, when the list grows so will its interest.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Tools at April 25, 2004 10:41 AM Comments (0)

Google AdSense Server Broken? Serving Up PSAs

Traveling through dozens of sites with AdSense ads on them, you'll notice ads that look like the one directily below.

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These are called "PSA"s, or public server ads and are served up in place of Google AdSense contextual ads when Google has no more ads to serve up. This normally occurs towards the end of the month when AdWords customers run out of funds in their accounts. But this seems to be a little different, because it seems some very competitive keywords - where budgets do not 'run out' - are serving up these PSAs.

There is forum discussion about this level of PSAs being served up. Speculation is that the main Google AdSense server is having technical difficulty and PSAs are taking its place temporarily. We will see how it folds out.

Forum coverage at:

Also Andy Beal reported AdWords missing in the main Google SERPs. Updated 5:10pm Doug Bates posted a comment here stating WebmasterWorld is also discussing the AdWords problem here.

Oh, I just added alternative ads to this site so I won't server up those PSAs.

posted rustybrick in Google AdSense at April 23, 2004 4:03 PM Comments (0)

Google Israel - New Look

One of the cool things about having a Mac is that I can see Hebrew, Japanese, and other languages that are frequently not supported on a PC by default. Google came out with a new look for http://www.google.co.il/.

Forum coverage at ABAKUS Forum.

Here are some screen shots:

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posted rustybrick in Google Search Engine at April 23, 2004 11:46 AM Comments (0)

Google to go Public within Days

Google is to go public within the next few days, possibly by the end of today.

According to the WallStreetJournal's recent article Google Is Expected to Announce Plans for Initial Public Offering, where it reads:

Internet-search pioneer Google Inc. plans to announce within days that it will push forward with an initial public offering, according to people familiar with the matter....

Rumors around the Mountain View, Calif., company's IPO have swirled through markets since October. Based on early chatter among bankers, the offering could value Google at as much as $25 billion, and spread nearly $100 million in fees across Wall Street. Last fall, some of Google's prospective advisers estimated the valuation of the company could be in line with other Internet leaders. Those include Yahoo Inc., valued at $38 billion, Amazon.com Inc. at $20 billion and eBay Inc. at $54 billion.

Forum Coverage:

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 23, 2004 11:38 AM Comments (0)

Google PageRank Update April 23rd

New update at Google seems to be taking place.

Forum Coverage:

posted rustybrick in Google PageRank/SERP Updates at April 23, 2004 11:30 AM Comments (0)

"I am Feeling Lucky" Has no Referrer

Did you ever get a referral from Google with it being blank? This is the first time I have seen a thread on this topic over at WebmasterWorld. Several people chime in that the answer is that the searcher used the "I am feeling lucky" button to be referred to that page. Even GoogleGuy:

"I would guess an I'm Feeling Lucky search as well. I suppose you could always try it out by constructing a search that would return you at #1, and then checking your server log. Let us know what you find out. :)"

Ukgimp's tests proved this theory to be fact.

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posted rustybrick in Google Search Engine at April 23, 2004 10:20 AM Comments (4)

Accurately Calculating Links to a Site

Yesterday, Jill Whalen released her weekly HighRankings Advisor Newsletter. This newsletter generated quite a bit of conversation over at the IHelpYou Forum. Jill stated:

www.yoursite.com -site:www.yoursite.com (Obviously substituting yoursite.com for your actual site.)

This command will show you all the pages linking to yours, minus the pages from your own site. If you want to see your own site links too, just remove the -site:www.yoursite.com part, as that's the syntax for excluding them.

So of course, when someone as well known as Jill in this industry writes something and gives it out to hundreds of people, some have to critique each and every word. It is funny, because Jill clearly stated she wrote the newsletter really quickly because of her upcoming Chicago show. Any how, people do have a right to be upset.

It can easily be construed that one should not use the link: command in Google to find a site's backlink. Jill says, instead you should use www.yoursite.com -site:www.yoursite.com syntax. This however does not give an "accurate" representation of all of a site's backlinks. It does not take into account links to ones sites which are not in the visible body text of the page.

This does however, very accurately bring back the number of links and non links on pages Google has indexed that contain the text www.yoursite.com on a page's visible content only. Again, based on my tests - it does not bring back other type of anchor text, such as <a href="www.mysite.com">keyword phrase</a>. Join the discussion here.

updated: 9:25AM
Over at Cre8asite Forums, they opened up a discussion on the best method, in my opinion, to find ones true backlinks. That is, to use Yahoo! Search and use the syntax "linkdomain:mysite.com", without the www. As most of you know, AllTheWeb was the source for finding the highest number of backlinks to one's site. Now we can use Yahoo! to do the same with this command.

posted rustybrick in Link Building at April 23, 2004 12:17 AM Comments (0)

Organic and PPC Are Friends not Enemies

If one is ranking in the number one spot organically, should one also conduct PPC campaigns for that same keyword?

If the ROI is positive, then YES!

I was extremely surprised by some of the answers to this question over at HighRankings forum. Forum member, thebean, asks Worth Bidding If #1 "naturally"?

lizzielu said accurately:

There was a study at the NYC Conference that showed web sites with a natural listing and a paid listing on the same page had 3 times higher click through rates. Also, people look on the left side of Google first before looking on the right side, so they're likely to click on your natural link first. If they miss it, your paid ad will be there as a back up. Also, it's good for branding. I would advise you buy the ad on that page.

I am surprised by some of the answers because I know that those people know better.

Anyway, this thread makes for some good reading.

posted rustybrick in Pay Per Click Engines at April 22, 2004 9:34 PM Comments (0)

Spending on Keyword Search Advertising Increase

C-Net released an article today named, Spending on Net ads jumps in 2003. The key to this article is the following quote.

The report breaks down advertising revenue by categories, delivery methods and other critera. Keyword search advertising, in which companies pay to have their ads linked to certain search terms on sites such as Google, showed the strongest growth, accounting for 35 percent of all online advertising revenue in 2003. Keyword search accounted for only 15 percent of the market in 2002.

Most other advertising formats, including display ads and sponsorship advertising, showed slight to moderate declines.

AdWords, AdSense, Overture and the PPC arena is booming!

posted rustybrick in Pay Per Click Engines at April 22, 2004 11:10 AM Comments (0)

Google Commemorates Earth Day

How can Google ever go public! Most public companies would never do what they do to their logo on a regular basis. I worked for a few fortune 500 companies, and one rule of thumb when doing any design work, you can absolutely not skew or modify the company logo in any way.

Google's Earth Day Logo:

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Forum coverage at: WebmasterWorld

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 22, 2004 9:08 AM Comments (0)

Ghost PageRank Provided by Tripod

Ghost PageRank, or PageRank which is an estimated PageRank value based on a domain's current PageRank summation, has been the topic of conversation over at one of the HighRanking threads.

One of the forum members recently launched a site with tripod under a domain that looks to be in the format of username.tripod.com. In just a few days, his PageRank went to 5. Not bad. :)

The thread gets a bit off topic, but people do try to explain the concept of PageRank and Ghost PageRank at the thread named Can A 1 Page Website Have A Pr Of 5, How to increase my PR.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 22, 2004 9:00 AM Comments (0)

Multiple Sites & Single Database - Spam or Not?

WebmasterWorld has a very interesting thread taking place named Award Winning Sites or Problem Sites?. A upset Web site owner saw a company build several sites that basically run off the same data set (probably same database) but have a different design and layout to them.

We have all seen examples of this while shopping online. One example is:
FootLocker.com & EastBay.com. See both their product landing pages for "Jordan Men's Air Jordan XII Retro Low" sneaker, FootLocker.com & EastBay.com. Not only do those pages look almost exactly the same, so do the homepages.

Brett Tabke, quickly defends the this practice as stating they have "done an outstanding job of building out quality sites and promoting them in a leading edge manner. They represent some of the best that the promotion world have to offer and I will not hesitate to reward that quality work by purchasing from them again soon." "They are all unique and quality sites," Brett said.

However, not everyone at the thread agrees. Check out the thread here.

posted rustybrick in Dynamic Site Topics at April 21, 2004 6:12 PM Comments (0)

Most Hotly Debated SEO Topics at Cre8asite Forums

If your like me and you love long threads between the SEO elite on topics that are extremely controversial, then your going to love this post by Ammon Jones at Cre8asite Forums.

So you know, I plan on reading each thread in its entirety and then pulling old the most exciting quotes and humorous chats. People involved in these threads include Ammon Jones, Jill Whalen, Phil Craven, Peter Da Vanzo, Sharon and Roy Montero, Bill Slawski, Kim Krause, and others. Please check back for them.

Here are the threads Ammon pointed out:

posted rustybrick in SEO Forum News at April 21, 2004 11:55 AM Comments (0)

Subservient Chicken - Viral Marketing by Burger King

I was chatting with a client (the client happens to be a pretty big marketing guru) about blogs, viral marketing and forums and he told me about an interesting marketing tactic deployed by Burger King. Burger King launched a viral marketing campaign named

On the TV commercials they have a man dressed up in a chicken custom, which they ask them to do meaningless tasks. The chicken is of course was subservient and did those tasks. The funny part is that the

posted rustybrick in Web Promotion at April 20, 2004 4:53 PM Comments (0)

Comfort in Consistency But Problems in Predictability

This morning I went to my favorite bagel store to pick up breakfast. The guy who serves me saw me walk in the shop and yelled to the chef in the back, "two eggs on a bagel". I thought to myself, well that was nice - he knows what I wanted and ordered it for me. But then I thought, am I that predictable? maybe next time I should order something different. Being so predictable bothered me.

Let me relate this to search engines...

Search engines on one hand try to provide a level of consistency to their results in order to comfort the searcher. So if I search for "search engine roundtable" in Google, I want to find that this site listed number one every time and then find results that are relevant to the search engine roundtable under it. Relevancy and accuracy provides that level of comfort needed.

But on the other hand, search engines need to remove any level of predictibility in its search engine results. By that I mean, search engines can not and should not provide a schematic on how to ensure ones site is listed number 1, 2, or 3 for a selected keyword. If search engines were so predictable in terms of a person knowing he or she can guarantee a #1 spot for a specific keyword then it would be a joke. Same with the bagel story, if I walk in there and order the same thing each time, don't you think it might get a bit funny? It would be a problem if search engines were so predictable.

Consistency is comforting, predictability is problematic. My philosophical post for the month. :)

posted rustybrick in Search Technology at April 20, 2004 12:15 PM Comments (0)

First Week In Review

This is the first of many weekly or bi-monthly entries to sum up what has been posted here at the Search Engine Roundtable. We currently have enough people signed up to the list to warrant this entry. Only problem is, I do not know how to send out email notifications, without publishing a blog entry on it. So this entry will be live, categorized under Weekly Email Updates and be sent to the notification list.

The Cre8asite people asked me to do something similar at their blog, so I figured I would just reuse most of it here. So here it is.

Google had its own update on April 7th, which was a bit of a surprise for many. In fact, the day after, I reported on how Google can't even control its own search engine - now that is a real shocker. Yahoo! went soul searching only to find itself as Life Engine, something which kind of scares me. That not all that scares me, ISPs began blocking GMail emails, which drummed up a lot more controversy between O'Reilly and Yahoo!, plus the US government even joined in.

Besides for all the talks about PageRank and links, there was discussion on trademark issues and fraud issues with Google AdWords & AdSense.

Finally there were several brand new packages that came out over the past week or so. First is the launch of Amazon's A9 Search Engine, a 3-D Search Engine, a paper on named Web Spam Taxonomy, and a new design for the Search Engine Roundtable.

posted rustybrick in Weekly Email Updates at April 20, 2004 10:09 AM Comments (0)

SES Event Email Quick Response

I must say, Danny Sullivan was quick to respond on my one critical post on the SES conference.

To be fair, I have quoted his response below:


Yes, suffice to say, we don't want you overwhelmed with notices. For any show, we might typically send out two or three emails. Usually, it something like the show is coming, then the agenda is up, then hey, the deadline for a discount is approaching. The content should be slightly different, and always with a reason to keep in touch with you.

We honestly get few complaints about this. Seriously, I could count them on my fingers, that few. And of those few, it's usually, "why did I get so many in one day." That happens because despite deduping attempts, occasionally people are indeed on more than one list and not spotted.

For example, I'm on several different Jupiter lists, ClickZ, ClickZ Stats, SEReport, SEUpdate and SearchDay to name the ones I can remember. I got one email sent to me today as part of being one of those lists. The deduping seemed to have worked.

I'm also on a separate list just for people who expressly want to get notified about SES shows. That caused me to get a second email. It would be nice if that was also deduped, but at least I understood it more.

If any of your readers feel like they are getting too many emails, or have gotten duplicates on the same day, feel free to have them get in touch via our feedback page and I'll forward the information so the SES staff can look into the problem.

cheers,
danny

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Conferences at April 20, 2004 9:35 AM Comments (0)

New Sites = Poor Results in Google

There has been some discussion in some of the private forums around the Internet and some of the public forums on the topic of the performance on newly launched Web sites and rankings in Google.

What seems to be happening is that new sites begin to rank well the first week or two for the keyword phrases those pages are targeting and then a month or two in, the rankings drop off. There is a lot of speculation that Google is penalizing new sites.

I have seen examples of this exact pattern occurring on new sites. If it is a penalty or some "hold" on new sites rankings, is still to be determined.

Public Forum Coverage at:

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 19, 2004 8:37 PM Comments (7)

3D Search Engine

I think at one point most of us have probably wondered what it would be like to query a search engine that returns 3D results. Nothing beats actually being able to see the contours, shapes, colors, textures of something. Words are so boring sometimes, and in reality how much do they actually tell about an image. Google at best can only highlight and index the words around the image or those words in the file name. But actually being able to scan an images itself and return results based on its properties is something new. The researchers and scientists at Princeton University have created "have put a 3-D search engine on the Web that lets anyone sketch an object using a computer mouse, add a textual description, then search for similar models in design databases."
I drew and tried a search for "star" that brought back some interesting results.

Its definately worth a quick peak here: Princeton 3D Model Search Engine

posted Phoenix in Other Search Engines at April 19, 2004 12:40 PM Comments (0)

SES Toronto Email Notifications are Out of Hand

I have attended a couple Search Engine Strategies Conferences in the past, so of course I expect one or two email notifications about the up and coming Toronto show. But I have to say, I must have received 10 emails about this Toronto show already. And I expect to get a few more before it the show takes place.

I think it might be because I am on several lists. One as a conference attendee, one as a newsletter member, one as a paid member of SearchEngineWatch and one as an advertiser at one of the events. This is not really an excuse to receive so many notifications about the same event. I am sure Danny Sullivan would agree with this and maybe send Jupiter a note on this, but I do not expect changes soon. It all depends on the number of people who complain.

I like Danny, Search Engine Watch and the Search Engine Strategies conferences. I just don't like all the email notifications about them.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Conferences at April 19, 2004 10:26 AM Comments (0)

New Blog Design by MovableType Blog Designer Eris

As you can see, the new Search Engine Roundtable design is up and out there for the public. This has been a few week process to come to this point and I am very happy with the way it turned out. The design and navigational elements of this blog represent the blog, its authors and most importantly you, the reader. As you know, the purpose behind the blog is to report on the most interesting threads taking place at the SEM forums. By enlisting some of the most recognized names at those forums, the Roundtable is able to not only report on these outstanding threads but also provide a synopsis that provides greater detail into those threads. More on the purpose in the about us section, which I still need to complete.

Now more about the movabletype blog designer - (deserves the anchor text)...

Eris, from ErisFree was the blog designer I selected. Not because of her outstanding prices but because of her talent. I reviewed her portfolio and sent several emails back and forth, then decided to give it a go. I can not tell you how great this person is. She drew up not 1 or 2 designs for me to choose from, but a total of 7, yes, 7 designs! When I told her that the design is "good enough", she came back to me asking for more details as to what was missing in my mind. "Good enough" was not acceptable to her, and you are looking at the perfect representation in design and layout for the roundtable in the eyes of the authors, readers and my eyes.

I can not stress how incredible it was to work with Eris. I have worked with many design firms and I have to say that Eris beat them all in every single way. If you are looking for an honest, skilled and professional designer, please contact Eris. It is too bad she lives in Texas, I might make her an offer to work for my company. ;)

Note: There are several sections on this site that need content, including all of the top navigation. I will update them shortly and add a comment when everything is done. Please feel free to comment on the design. Please tell me what you think works and does not work. Feel free to tell me you hate the ads on the right, I tried to make them as unobtrusive as possible by blending them in. In addition there are several components of the site that are still being worked on, including the comments text box. Feel free to comment and any issues, there is a very good chance we missed them.

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 19, 2004 8:46 AM Comments (0)

Google Mail Versus Yahoo Mail

The GMail topic just is not cooling down, besides for all the forum debate that is still taking place at:

The debate is still hot amongst some of the most popular blogs. Recently, Tim O'Reilly, the founder of O'Reilly Books, posted in his personal blog an entry named The Fuss About Gmail and Privacy: Nine Reasons Why It's Bogus. Where he gives his opinion on why the GMail controversy is really not such a big deal and people should really give Google a break about it.

Jeremy Zawodny, the Yahoo! guy, posted an entry in his blog in response to Tim's post. Jeremy named his blog entry, Blinded by Gmail's Gigabyte?, where he discusses his objections to Tim's view. Tim then later posted a comment at Jeremy Zawodny's blog stating.

Jeremy, maybe you didn't read Rich Skrenta's blog, which captures the reasons for my enthusiasm. Gmail is an example of what you might call a "tipping point innovation." That is, it's been possible for some time, and there are a number of players (your employer, Yahoo! included) who could have pulled it off. But someone finally did it, and it happened to be Google. Giving 100 to 250 times the free storage provided by other services and making it work with Google-level search capabilities means that webmail can be more than a secondary convenience, or the email of choice for home users. More significantly to me (because I'm interested in understanding long term trends and their impact on what becomes possible as time and technology advance), it makes a bold statement about where both storage and the network are going...

For the full comment scroll down to the comments section about 70% down the page, where it reads On or around April 17, 2004 08:47 AM Tim O'Reilly wrote this:.

The debate goes on...So you think Google expected this? You know what they say, no PR is bad PR.

posted rustybrick in Miscellaneous at April 18, 2004 1:38 PM Comments (0)

New Design for the Roundtable

Sunday we will be putting up our new design. Please feel free to comment on the new design. In addition, please excuse any empty sections. I will be adding content to any new/empty section shortly.

Thank you.

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 17, 2004 11:34 PM Comments (0)

Google Local is Killing Me!

Well not me, but many people. Every since Google started serving up local results in mid March, people have been complaining about lost traffic, lost revenue.

Over at WebmasterWorld, one reports a traffic drop of "10% after Google Local came about".

The discussion then moves on to how this will affect AdWords and Brett Tabke, the owner of WebmasterWorld, says "Let's cut to thet bottom line: if you want to survive, then you are going to have to compete with the locals. To do that, you probably going to have to appear as if you are "local" in nature."

Is Google Local Affecting you? Join the discussion.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 16, 2004 4:43 PM Comments (0)

Soul Searching at Yahoo! Search

About a week the-onion.gif ago Yahoo! Search in conjunction with The Onion launched Yahoo! Soul Search.

For example, do a search on what is my destiny in Yahoo! Search. Results will come back that look similar to the following screen shot.

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Forum coverage at WebmasterWorld.

One thing - this proves Yahoo has a sense of humor.

posted rustybrick in Yahoo! News at April 16, 2004 2:29 PM Comments (0)

Are you White or Black: Gray Hat SEO

Ammon Johns said here:122763.jpg

There are no hats.

There are three forms of SEO tactics:
1. Techniques currently rated as 'safe'.
2. Techniques rated as risky.
3. Risk balanced and risk managed techniques.

This black hat versus white hat SEO thread at Cre8asite Forums is not the average thread. Risk management is discussed, by bringing to light the pros and cons of each tactic. Check out the thread.

posted rustybrick in Search Engine Optimization at April 16, 2004 8:59 AM Comments (1)

Everyone and their dog

It seems that these days everyone and their dog is running link auction or has a link selling site. My question is: Will this make google fight even harder against the link mongers? I think not! I think all this sensatialization of link buying and selling will only wreck a good thing and place an extemely diminished return on link popularity.

posted seo guy in Link Building at April 15, 2004 7:23 PM Comments (0)

More on Social Networking - Friendster

I seem to post once a week on this social networking topic but here is one more. Lisa from Trylon Communications emailed me about this article over at BusinessWeek Online named Tim Koogle's Connection at Friendster. This quote give me confidence in my last posts on this subject, Social Networking is going to be a tough sell financially.

"the business opportunities in social networking appear cloudy, at best. If sites charge visitors to create a profile, it would curtail the number of people joining the network, squelching the potency of these services. Although Friendster has been exploring ways around this, such as including ads on its site, it still lacks a firm business plan. That challenge is right up Koogle's alley. He joined Yahoo in 1995, when it boasted just a handful of employees and no business plan. By 2000, he had helped build the portal to over $1 billion in revenues. Whether from his perch on Friendster's board or as CEO, Koogle is betting he'll match that success.”

posted rustybrick in Miscellaneous at April 15, 2004 6:26 PM Comments (0)

Link Building for the Lazy Man

So your lazy or you don't have the time to email or call people asking to exchange links. Or maybe, you just don't feel comfortable exchanging links because of the taboo associated with it in the industry (please don't jump on me for saying that). So how can one easy, and cost effectively build links to ones pages?

This is the exact topic over at DigitalPoint's forum, The lazy man's way to get links.... DigitalPoint is well known for his contribution of free software to the SEM community. He has built several Web based tools to help an SEO and SEM manage the day to day business activities of their site. Check out his tools here.

By building and giving away these tools, DigitalPoint was able to obtain many many links. Helping him rank higher for those tools and then increase the chances of him even building more, free and unreciprocated links. Not bad, ehh?

posted rustybrick in Link Building at April 15, 2004 10:58 AM Comments (0)

Trademarked Names & Google AdWords Hits Home

A lot of forum talk has been encourages by the recent news about how Google allows trademarked names to be purchased. In one of the latest threads on this topic over at Cre8asite Forums, this trademark issue hits home.

The trademark at hand is "juno". Juno to most American's is a popular low cost Internet Service Provider. But in the UK, Juno is a popular records store. The trademark issue here is not really applicable because both are valid trademarks. So when you do a Google Juno Search, they Juno (The ISP) has a right to buy the AdWords.

The thread gets deep inside the still hazy area of online keyword purchasing and trademark infringement. Check out the thread named Adwords and Company Names.

posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 15, 2004 10:31 AM Comments (0)

A9 - Amazon's New Search Engine

The Wall Street Journal today reported on how Amazon has begun testing its new search engine, named A9.

"Where A9 seems to take a more distinctive approach to searching is with a feature that displays a users' history of searches on the site so that they can quickly resume prior hunts for information."

Just a new face to all the other personalized search services with Book Results as well. So when you do a search on Web design you can click on open book results and A9 will find matches within books. In addition, A9 will show "your search history, which keeps track of which searches you have done in the past, and what search results you have seen and clicked on."

posted rustybrick in Other Search Engines at April 14, 2004 5:37 PM Comments (0)

10K SEM Budget - What Would you Do?

Interesting thread over at HighRankings named A Hypothetical Question, What would you do with a 10K Budget?.

Ian, a moderator there responded with

1-2k for a website usability touchup (and possibly content added)
2-3k for optimisation
2k for paid inclusion in top directories and sites
3k for PPC, spread over 3 months

But others pitched in as well. Check out the thread.

What would I do? Really hard to say, depends on the site and requirements.

posted rustybrick in Search Theory at April 14, 2004 12:55 PM Comments (0)

Click-Fraud on Google AdSense

There is a topic over at WebmasterWorld named Thrown out-any right of appeal? This is about a story of a publisher who was removed from the Google AdSense program because Google believed click-fraud was going on.

Of course the individual completely denies any wrongdoing. He has tried to appeal and is awaiting a response from Google.

This actually brings up an interesting discussion on how Google should treat its ad publishers. The bigger the publisher the more personal touch...

Also, the discussion gets a bit into how one can be a victim of fraud.

If a rival company wants to take down it's competitor one of the best ways to do it is to make them leave internet advertising. To do this they use spam software not to click on ads to generate cash, but to drain their competitors advertising budget.
If they use crawler software to scour several on-topic sites for their competitor's ads and click on them repeatedly then their competitor loses money and faith in Google Adwords. Obviously a few sites lose their account with Google because of it but what do the rival care? You can bet that even though you were kicked off for fraudulent clicks, the advertisers that were 'de-frauded' won't get their money refunded.

posted rustybrick in Google AdSense at April 14, 2004 10:22 AM Comments (0)

GMail only for Windows Users

I was going to post on this before I took off for two days, but decided to wait for more forum coverage. Now that WebmasterWorld has about 4 pages on this topic, which they coin Google Abandons Accessiblity.

I saw this when I tried to login using my Apple Safari Browser, which works well with almost every other real Web site on the Internet.

GMail is in beta, so we can't officially complain or can we? Isn't most of Google's features in beta? examples: Froogle, Local, News, Catalogs and others. Not bad, 5 of about 12 are still in beta and Froogle, Local, News and Gmail are not tools that are rarely used. Don't forget the Google API which is still in beta....

posted rustybrick in Other Google Topics at April 14, 2004 8:24 AM Comments (0)

Web Spam (spamdexing) Taxonomy

Researchers at Stanford have produced a paper on search engine spam or as they define it web spam.
You can read the paper here...
Some extracts raised my eyebrows such as...

"... Please note that according to our definition, all types of actions intended to boost ranking, without improving the true value of a page, are considered spamming."

Does that mean removing session ids or changing a company name in the title tag to include a keyword is spam by their definition?

There are various techniques left out (hopefully intentionally as it is a spammers guide as it is). Their suggestions for search engines to better their algorithm make sense. I believe however Google already implements at least two of their suggestions.


posted webby in Spam at April 13, 2004 11:40 AM Comments (0)

Out Monday & Tuesday

Hi All,

I wanted to let you all know that I will be out and unable to post for most of Monday and Tuesday. I hope the other blog authors will be contributing during this time.

Make sure to check out the top SEM forums on the left side of this page.

Thanks and hope I don't miss anything too exciting!

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 11, 2004 6:07 PM Comments (0)

1,000 Query Google API Limit Reset

So when does that 1,000 Google API query limit reset itself? I have emailed Google's API team asking them myself, but they would not give me the answer. People over at DigitalPoint's Forum decided to run some tests for themselves.

You would think the answer would be straight forward, but its not.

The study found that the API query limit resets itself between 0306-0453GMT.

Check out the thread here.

posted rustybrick in Other Google Topics at April 11, 2004 10:41 AM Comments (1)

Trademarked Names No Longer Blocked by Google AdWords?

Hello,

We're writing to inform you that we're changing our trademark
complaint procedure. This change may affect how we handle
the trademark complaint you currently have on file with us.

If you've requested in your complaint letter that we prevent
advertisers from using certain trademark terms anywhere in
their ad text, we will continue our efforts to support your request.

However, within the coming weeks, our trademark complaint
investigations will no longer result in Google monitoring or
restricting keywords for ads served to users in the US and
Canada. Complaints received after today will be processed
under our revised procedure.

You do not need to file your trademark complaint with us again
unless you would like to amend it based on the new guidelines.

For more detailed information regarding our trademark complaint
procedure, we invite you to review our revised complaint procedure,
posted online at: http://www.google.com/tm_complaint.html.

Sincerely,

The Google Trademark Policy Team

Found over at SEO Chat.

What this means is someone can purchase the keyword "RustyBrick" but can not use the keyword "RustyBrick" in the Ad text. RustyBrick is a trademark, we do Web development. So if RustyBrick was a household name for Web development, like Kleenex is for Tissues, and the advertiser used Web Development in the ad text, then there is no problem.

Curious if one can buy the keyword "Google". :)

posted rustybrick in Google AdWords at April 11, 2004 10:36 AM Comments (0)

Google Does Not Pass PageRank from Google Pages

Question arose at DigitalPoint's up and coming forum, which asked

I'm not expecting to get much traffic from Froogle but am hoping to get a gain in PR from the link.

So does Google pass PR from its own pages?

NO

DP points out the Froogle robot.txt file. OldWelshGuy reconfirms it with an email he received from Google. Check the thread out at DigitalPoint Forum.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 11, 2004 10:27 AM Comments (0)

ISPs Block GMail Emails

If you haven't seen it yet, WebmasterWorld has a thread named My email automatically rejected, which discusses how some ISPs are blocking emails from gmail addresses.

The emails are being blocked because of all the privacy issues surrounding the GMail service.

One of my favorite quotes in this thread is:

And please don't make the "it's the same as running a spam filter" argument. Filtering spam doesn't put an ad for a competitor on content I created.

However, I am of the type that only uses Webmail for junk mail. My real email is owned, powered and hosted by myself. I have junk accounts with Yahoo, hotmail and others - Yahoo being my primary. So in my mind, its no big deal at all to have these emails read by Google's Ad servers. However, there are thousands of people who use free, Web based email services for their real email accounts. I can see the problems with that.

ISPs have the power to block Gmail, so some are. Join the discussion at WebmasterWorld.

posted rustybrick in Other Google Topics at April 11, 2004 10:20 AM Comments (9)

1st Annual Emoticons / Smilies SEM Forum Contest

I would like to announce the first annual Emoticons / Smilies SEM Forum Contest. This contest is where I judge the forum solely based on the creativity of the selection of emoticons and/or smilies available to the poster.

This years winner of Emoticons / Smilies SEM Forum Contest is:
HighRankings Forum for having the most creative and unique set of Emoticons of all SEM forums.

This years loser, although they are one of the largest SEM forums on the Internet, is WebmasterWorld for allowing simple text based smilies. :) ;)

Now for the music after the event, compliments of HighRankings

posted rustybrick in SEO Forum News at April 9, 2004 3:29 PM Comments (1)

Competitiveness of a Keyword Phrase

An interesting thread over at WebmasterWorld named How Many Matches Indicate High Competition?, discusses how someone defines the competitiveness of a keyword phrase.

John_Caius provides three classifications to determine the level of competition for a keyword phrase.

My general rule-of-thumb definition of low competition would be where the top ten returning results haven't been SEOed. Medium competition would be where the top ten returning results have been SEOed. High competition would be where the top hundred results have been SEOed. Really high competition would be where a major site, like Amazon, Yahoo or WW is targeting that keyphrase. That's a better guide than number of results, because it tells you about how hard everyone else is also trying to be number one.

Finding the keyword phrase that is not SEOed but is a big bread-winner is where it is at, but I will leave that to Dan Thies to talk about. I had a law client that was paying a fortune for a few targeted keywords with AdWords. They were very competitive PPC campaigns but to my surprise, no one was optimizing for those keywords organically. So we quickly changed some title tags around and presto, free traffic. Soon enough the competition caught on, but it was fun to see. Many SEMs/SEOs have stories like this to tell.

posted rustybrick in Keyword Research at April 9, 2004 11:37 AM Comments (0)

Yahoo! Life Engine - Is it Happening?

Can it be? Does Yahoo think? Our lives now revolve, depend, require search and the Yahoo portal for us to sustain ourselves?

If you haven't seen it yet, go to the Yahoo! home page. See that ad in the middle about
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Scary thought. Check it out here.

posted rustybrick in Yahoo! Search Engine at April 9, 2004 9:57 AM Comments (1)

Determining High or Low PageRank X

Do I have a high PR 6 or a low PR 6? How many times have you seen a post like this in a forum or have been asked this over the telephone? Over at SEO Chat there is a post that just got started that discusses this exact topic, fractional pagerank.

DigitalPoint suggests that by looking at your inner pages PR, you can somewhat determine if you have a high PR or a low PR. For example, if your pagerank is currently a 6 and your main four inner pages are a pagerank of 5 then it is safe to bet that your homepage's PR 6 is a low PR 6. However , PR (as DigitalPoint knows) not always works this way. If you have any incoming external links to those sub pages from a high PR page, then this might not be true.

For a page that has not had a large number of increased incoming external links over the past months you can determine if you have a high or low pagerank by watching your PR changes over the PR updates. For example, I know my main corporate site, www.rustybrick.com, fluctuates between a PR 6 and PR 5. It has been doing so for over a year now. So I am pretty sure that the index page has a high PR 5 and a low PR 6.

posted rustybrick in Google Optimization at April 9, 2004 9:24 AM Comments (0)

Value Forum Signature Links

There are millions of Web based forums that range on topics from math to soccer. Many of these forums have strict policies on where you can link to externally and what you can or can not have in your signature file.

At DigitalPoint's forum, there is a thread that discusses the value of a sig link.

There is no doubt that signature links on some forums count. Depending on the forum's policy, (1) the forum might allow clean links to external sites, (2) the forum might run an external link through a redirection script, or (3) a forum might not allow for any or a very limited type of external links. This entry is not about which SEM forum allows for which type of links, I am not looking to make enemies.

I would just like to point out that after this week's Google PR and backlinks update, SEO Chat Forums finally reached a PR8. I spend most my time posting over at SEO Chat, since I am a moderator over there. Google had some sort of penalty on SEO Chat, the reason was unknown. It seems that penalty has been lifted about two updates ago and now Google finally crawled the forum threads. The sites in my signature file at SEO Chat have gained about 350 links each. The PR of those sites went up slightly but the number of links increased dramatically.

So what is the value of the links at your favorite forum?

declaimer: I am not advocating joining a forum just to increase your link popularity. Join a forum to get the best advice possible from people you like. Each forum has its own culture, make your own decision.

posted rustybrick in Link Building at April 8, 2004 3:15 PM Comments (2)

Yahoo to Join The Social Networking Club

We have Frienster, Orkut and soon to come a Yahoo Social Networking site? This blog does not cover much news related topics, but my obsession with the obsessions over these social networking sites influenced this post. Over at C-Net, they report on Yahoo hints at social networking service. I certainly had enough of these types on online services.

Also read my last post on Orkut.

posted rustybrick in Other Yahoo! Topics at April 8, 2004 10:51 AM Comments (0)

Google Can't Control its Own Engine

Interesting thread over at WebmasterWorld on a subject I posted here on March 23, 2004. The article discussed how a anti Semitic hate site ranked number one for the keyword "Jew". The topic of interest at WebmasterWorld is not about the hate site but about the quote from a Google rep in this article that says:

"Google's search results are solely determined by computer algorithms that essentially reflect the popular opinion of the Web," he said. "Our search results are not manipulated by hand. We're not able to make any manual changes to the results."

posted rustybrick in Google Search Engine at April 8, 2004 10:42 AM Comments (0)

Google PageRank Update

Hi, I am back and I see that Google has updated your PageRank.

Forum Coverage at:
SEO Chat
SitePoint
JimWorld
IHelpYou
ABAKUS
DigitalPoint

posted rustybrick in Google PageRank/SERP Updates at April 7, 2004 10:10 PM Comments (0)

Coverage of the 7th International Internet Marketing Conference - Montreal

Cre8asite Moderator Barry Welford is covering this year's International Markering Conference in Montreal at his new BPWrap blog (a subsection of the Cre8asite Cre8tive Flow Blog).

If you are interested in Internet Marketing his journal will surely be worth checking out. He's also going to be putting up more detailed information on some of the things he picked up at the conference once he's back home and has more time to put everything together.

As always, you can keep up with all the latest goings on in respects to Cre8asite's holistic approach to Web Design, Development, and SEO/SEM issues at our Cre8asite Network Hub and Resource Library

You can discuss Barry's reports and ask him questions about the experience at our forums, though Barry may not get a chance to answer them until after the conference has ended.

posted Grumpus in Search Engine Conferences at April 7, 2004 11:21 AM Comments (0)

SERPS Tool

Hey guys, just programmed a screen scrape for the SE's basically a googlerankings.com but for more engines http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/se-pos.php looking for comments on how to use/ improve the tool
Enjoy
SEO Guy

posted seo guy in Search Engine Tools at April 6, 2004 8:30 PM Comments (0)

WebTrends To Acquire WebPosition Gold

NetIQ (the makers of WebTrends) has setup a deal to acquire the WebPosition software line from FirstPlace Software. The company itself is not being acquired, just the WebPosition product line.

You can discuss it here.

posted digitalpoint in Search Engine Industry News at April 6, 2004 12:25 AM Comments (0)

Will be Out Tuesday & Wednesday

Hi All,

I wanted to let you all know that I will be out and unable to post for most of Tuesday and Wednesday. I hope the other blog authors will be contributing during this time.

Make sure to check out the top SEM forums on the left side of this page.

Thanks and hope I don't miss anything too exciting!

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 5, 2004 4:29 PM Comments (0)

Aspen - Chris Beasley - SitePoint Forums Rep

Chris Beasley, a.k.a. aspen, will be representing the, SitePoint Forums one of the largest technology forums on the Internet.

Chris has been running commercial content sites since 1999. He now runs around 20 content sites and one ecommerce site. Though he occassionally does SEO work for others he mostly just works for himself, promoting money making sites that provide residual income. Chris has been a member of Sitepoint's Forums for almost 5 years, is a senior advisor, and head of their promotion section. Chris has had many articles published on Sitepoint and other sites. He also launched WebsitePublisher.net in 2003. His company is also the creator of Google Watch Watch.

posted rustybrick in Blog Administration at April 5, 2004 1:26 PM Comments (0)

Overture Drops Casino/Gambling Sites

Recently Overture announced it will not longer serve up ads for online gambling sites. Article by NY Times at FT.com.

Forum Coverage at:
SEO Chat
WebmasterWorld - Password Required

posted rustybrick in Overture Precision Match at April 5, 2004 10:15 AM Comments (0)

Online Referrals vs. Offline Referrals

The other day, Ammon Jones from Cre8asite Forums directed my attention to his first ever blog entry named The Real Meaning of Links.

In this post, Ammon described the similarities between online and offline referrals. In other words, he brought a human perspective to understanding why a link from site A to site B is so valuable. He did so by giving an analogy of one of his shopping experiences in the past, when a store referral lead him to find the product he was looking for.

The Real Meaning of Links is a must read, so get over to the new Peabody Blog and read it.

posted rustybrick in Link Building at April 5, 2004 8:30 AM Comments (0)

Chart Your AdSense Data

Little tool I whipped up today to chart your Google AdSense data in a variety of different ways...

  • Impressions
  • Impressions (Cumulative)
  • Clicks
  • Clicks (Cumulative)
  • Clickthrough Percentage
  • Earnings
  • Earnings (Cumulative)
  • Earnings Per Click.

Supports both aggregate and channel data.

Sample Earnings chart:

posted digitalpoint in Google AdSense at April 4, 2004 9:49 PM Comments (0)

GEmail & Privacy Concerns

A few days back, I covered the forum news on Google's Free Email Service. Now that its real, there is a lot of talk on the privacy issues involved with this free service. What do you feel of Google reading your email?

Forum coverage:
WebmasterWorld
SEO Chat
Cre8asite Forum
DigitalPoint Forums

posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 4, 2004 6:38 PM Comments (3)

Straw Man SEO

I received the following in a spam email today:
"Hello, I am (name deleted), GOOGLE LISTS ME #1 IN THE WORLD FOR:
'PERSONAL SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION ACCOUNT REP'
"
There's a greater than zero chance that this post will outrank him in a couple weeks. I hate to be mean to Harry, but any fool can rank if they're the only one trying.

I refer to what (name deleted) is doing here as "straw man SEO" - you can't beat the real SEOs, so you construct a straw man like 'personal search engine optimization account rep.' Do people actually spend money with this guy, or did he resort to spam because he had no chance?

Poke fun in this thread at the Best Practices forums, about the worlds #1 ranked personal search engine optimization account rep.

Another good example of a phrase that is not competitive, would be MONEY BACK SEARCH ENGINE PLACEMENT PROS which is the latest conquest of our "Straw Man SEO of the Year." I wonder how long his #1 on Yahoo for that "gem" will hold up...

posted DanThies in Spam at April 3, 2004 10:13 AM Comments (0)

Commercial Applications that use Google API Accepted by Google

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One of the biggest gray areas for me and many people out there is how can or can't they use the Google API. Recently, Danny Sullivan wrote (password required), "Google's API service isn't aimed to help people build commercial services. But Google Alert sees a business in using the API for tracking Google results. This story suggests it may have cut a deal with Google to share revenues when paid-for services are offered. Google Alert's Gideon Greenspan tells me this: "Google has agreed and encouraged us to begin charging for a premium service using the high-volume API key that they have supplied, but we haven't signed anything yet. As the premium service grows, the key capacity will need to be increased, and we'll enter discussions about specific business terms."

I know that Google doesn't want anyone to sell the results from the Google API. Where it gets gray is when you don't sell the results, but you sell the services around the results but give the results away for free. See the difference. What are your thoughts?

posted rustybrick in Legal Issues in Search at April 2, 2004 5:57 PM Comments (1)

Orkut - Is it Really That Usful?

In this blog, I mentioned Orkut in eight of my blog entries. When I first started with Orkut, I was hooked. tr9.gif But very soon after, I stopped logging in each day. Now I login once per week, just to delete the Orkut spam messages.

Its a neat thing, makes you feel you are part of an exclusive group of friends. But in reality your nothing special. Well, maybe you are special but no one else is.

What is useful about Orkut? A way to organize your friends? Does anyone really need that? I don't get it. Please feel free to share your comments (oh, but not the spammers, I block most of them from sharing comments here).

posted rustybrick in Other Google Topics at April 2, 2004 3:07 PM Comments (0)

Why Google Can't Stay Quiet

By now everybody's talking about GMail. A couple months ago it was Orkut. In a couple months, who knows, maybe they'll put out their own instant messaging app like Trillian. Whether they really come out with an IM client or not, isn't the point here. The problem Google faces here is that they can't keep quiet.

Google starts making ready for an IPO, and what happens? Yahoo goes from "Google is a good partner" to rushing out their own web search results. Microsoft/MSN releases a bot into the wild and starts making noise about search, even though they really have nothing but a vaporware search engine. Soon, "expert market analysts" are saying that Google isn't worth a dime, much less the $10 billion where a successful IPO would likely value the company.

I saw more than one company deal with this during the "dot-boom." As soon as you look ready to IPO, your already-public competitors will do anything to make news. Why? Because once you commit to the IPO, you have to deal with a very long "quiet period" and you're basically not allowed to do anything newsworthy. Six months of letting your competition make all the news, do all the product launches, etc.

Google needs to keep launching new services to stay competitive. If GMail is released as described, they'll grab a lot of users from MSN/Hotmail and Yahoo, and advertising $$$ move with them. Google may well be on their way to becoming a portal, a piece at a time.

Given that Google is fighting in 21st century time, for mind share and market share, will they ever get to an IPO? Can Google really keep quiet for six months straight?

posted DanThies in Google News & Press at April 2, 2004 5:36 AM Comments (0)

Google AdSense's New Update: "Better Ad Relevance" & "Smarter Pricing"

Did you get your Google AdSense Update today? The one that talked about the new changes to the pricing structure paid out to the publishers? Well, if you didn't, I included the message in the extended part of this entry, just click on the "Continue reading ..." below, to read it.

The thread is already 4 pages long at WebmasterWorld, so check it out.

Continue reading "Google AdSense's New Update: "Better Ad Relevance" & "Smarter Pricing""

posted rustybrick in Google AdSense at April 1, 2004 6:14 PM Comments (1)

PR + Rank Checker

Just wanted to update you guys that the Google PR + rank checker is now working with "/" after the domain

http://www.seo-guy.com/seo-tools/google-dc.php

There was an error with my checksum algo in the Php where it was adding a "/" after the domain and causing a conflict,
All fixed now
Enjoy

posted seo guy in Search Engine Tools at April 1, 2004 3:14 PM Comments (0)

GMail - Google Email Service to Offer 1GB Mail for Free - Not a Hoax

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The news is all over the place, Google Launches Gmail, Free Email Service. But many forums say its a big April Fools day hoax.

Over at JimWorld Logan put the rumor of it being a hoax to a halt by placing a link to About Gmail.

We're currently only offering Gmail as part of a preview release and limited test. We don't have details on when Gmail will be made more widely available, as that depends in part on the results of the test. If you're interested in receiving updates on Gmail, submit your email address using the form at the bottom of this page.

posted rustybrick in Other Search Engines at April 1, 2004 11:42 AM

Google Search on a Wrist Watch

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Big find for Any Beal of Search Engine Lowdown with Sneak Peak: Google To Launch Search Engine Watch. He has inside information that Google will be releasing a wrist watch that can do Google searches.

Check out his blog for more information.

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 1, 2004 8:50 AM Comments (0)

MSN to Buy Google? April Fools or the Real Deal?

This rumor is spreading like wild fire all over the SEM forums.

MSN is rumored to be buying Google.

One forum member at IHelpYou said "Yes! The same thing was reported on all three major networks this morning!!"

Here is where the news was posted: http://www.weboptimiser.com/search_engine_marketing_news/2324735.html

Forum coverage:
Cre8asite
SEO Chat
ABAKUS
IHelpYou

April Fools or the Real Deal?

posted rustybrick in Google News & Press at April 1, 2004 8:39 AM Comments (0)

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